Autopsy Geelong turn out the Power by 76 points.

[STPer18]

The blokes Mullin is tagging are still getting a bit of the ball (Daicos 28, Butters 20) but their effectiveness is basically in the dirt. Just based on that it's probably better he goes to guys who do damage in space and not the ones whose job it is to feed it out to those guys IE give him one of the guys who Libba feeds the ball to and not Libba himself.

 

[standupand]

I don't think he was the only one. Hindsight is a marvellous thing.
I put my hand up- was uncertain on Dempsey

It sure is.
#D BRIDGE was on the money back then on Dempsey, I should point out, as were a few others who had watched a bit of him in the VFL in 23.
There were many though that thought it a ridiculous comparison.
I think it still is an interesting one, and worth a look back on again a year or so down the track.

 

[Vdubs]

It makes you realise that whilst pursuits like footy are enjoyable pastimes there's far more important things in life, we should hold family and friends even nearer, and we should be aware of the impact our words and actions can have on others.

You can never tell how others are faring.

Possibly the most important post I've ever read on BF.
Immediately after reading that I had to go and hug our second daughter who is living with us and been through difficult times.

 

[geelong_crazy26]

Possibly the most important post I've ever read on BF.
Immediately safter reading that I had to go and hug our second daughter who is living with us and been through a difficult times.

Hope all is well old mate. Your daughter is lucky she has you.

 

[Cataholic]

Possibly the most important post I've ever read on BF.
Immediately safter reading that I had to go and hug our second daughter who is living with us and been through a difficult times.

Daughters are always our little girls, aren't they?

She'll be grateful for your love and communication.

I sincerely hope her journey becomes much easier and enjoyable.

 

[Goggin Our Best]

Great post.
A lot to do with his CONFIDENCE and timing as well.
Even in year 1 at Pieland, he flew for marks regularly and often spectacularly, and with some success.
I honestly believe he's been part of a more for the team approach this year, even being a decoy at times- that was evident v Hawks when Siciliy was on him, often away from the action.
Oppositions have more respect for him than many of our own fans.

I watched the 2nd half again , and the most frustrating thing about OH is he doesnt hold his o/head marks , he gets his hands to plenty of them , but i think he drops 80% of them , talk about frustrating

OH is a poor mans Stephen Reynoldson , who was inconsistent himself , but at least some weeks he had sticky fingers and could mark like a champion and he was playing CHF , not as a 3rd forward

OH is fortunate that at this stage Geel have not got a better option than him as 3rd forward , maybe if the ex Carlton player Martin can get physically able to play then that could change the equation

 

[Silver Cat]

I watched the 2nd half again , and the most frustrating thing about OH is he doesnt hold his o/head marks , he gets his hands to plenty of them , but i think he drops 80% of them , talk about frustrating

OH is a poor mans Stephen Reynoldson , who was inconsistent himself , but at least some weeks he had sticky fingers and could mark like a champion and he was playing CHF , not as a 3rd forward

OH is fortunate that at this stage Geel have not got a better option than him as 3rd forward , maybe if the ex Carlton player Martin can get physically able to play then that could change the equation

He rarely lands on his feet after a marking contest which renders him useless.

 

[CatToTheFuture]

OH was a watch for me - from the TV coverage he seemed to be up the ground more , I think he'll be ok there once he adapts to the pace.

Of concern though is his leg action when flying for marks and kicking for goal.
His left leg is all over the place particularly when leaping , that has to unbalance him in the air and take distance and accuracy off his kicks
Strange....

I saw him lining up on a wing a bit in the first half but it didn't spark joy for me. He gave away as much as he got.

 

[standupand]

My parents were tough love too. I wanted to be a Richmond fan as a kid. Dad belted me silly and told me one day, I'd understand. As a long time Cats fan, I see my father's wisdom.

Just so you know. If you ever have those kinds of thoughts again, we're here to help. No one should ever want that for themselves. Not ever.

 

[The_Koulouriotis_Fan]

It sure is.
#D BRIDGE was on the money back then on Dempsey, I should point out, as were a few others who had watched a bit of him in the VFL in 23.
There were many though that thought it a ridiculous comparison.
I think it still is an interesting one, and worth a look back on again a year or so down the track.

Anyone who watched his school boy highlights should have been able to see the potential of this kid. Hadn’t played football and was doing ridiculous things.
Just needed time to develop!

I don’t really see a comparison with Ollie Henry and Dempsey. OH is just having a down year, which happens sometimes, he’s still, what only 21?
He’ll find the form again. He’s way too talented to not. Jack Henry went through a bit of that too.

Interestingly, Dwayne Russell has big wraps on OH, knows him from junior days and sees him moving to a wing or midfield… so maybe the comparison is valid.

Chris seemed very excited about Dempsey bulking up a bit and playing midfield in a couple of years. Personally, I just bloody love him, he’s so exciting and is absolutely in AA form this year, at the very least in the squad.

 

[Mr Meow]

The blokes Mullin is tagging are still getting a bit of the ball (Daicos 28, Butters 20) but their effectiveness is basically in the dirt. Just based on that it's probably better he goes to guys who do damage in space and not the ones whose job it is to feed it out to those guys IE give him one of the guys who Libba feeds the ball to and not Libba himself.

Correct. Richards is the perfect candidate. Holmes, Smith, Atkins and Blicavs head to head with Bont, Libba, Freijah and Kennedy. It'll be tough and we'll be need both our forwards and defenders to step up. That's the formula we've used to beat the Dogs. Last year they failed to and we got belted at GMHBA. The midfield did too, but we didn't play Holmes there and didn't have Smith. The main point is, their midfield has dominated ours many times and we have found ways to win.

 

[bulletproof]

Ollie Henry is absolutely lost with his game at the moment, even his kicking has deserted him. An AFL forward line is a cruel place to ply your trade when you have no belief in your game.

He could not even pounce on a rolling ball in the goal square yesterday. I was encouraged to see Danger coaching him at a break on the weekend.

Ollie will come through this a better player. He has the ability to play at this level and has shown it before.

It is not effort, attitude or courage, if it was that, it would be an easy fix, he is battling confidence and form.

If Geelong are to do anything this year, we need a good version of Henry playing, that much is certain.

I don’t think the VFL will help him, but if it goes on much longer, they may have to try.

 

[Pollywaffle]

Read, agreed, admired all posts. Loving Baz, Mullin, and the Lazarus Duncan.
Whilst it was a stirring win, the first half was low scoring and concerning.
Not trying to rain on your circus but-
We won't want to bank on the Dogs missing so many, better be better from the jump.

Point one: Port were a rabble after half time. Probably made us look much better than we are.
Point two: Remember Duncan often comes back after an absence, tears it up for a week or two then goes missing for weeks…How many weeks back ? 2 ? Due for a stinker in his 300th.. hope not, but history suggests.
Point three: For some reason we are vulnerable at home these days. Dogs have shown that KP demons are no longer a factor
Point four: No Danger
Point five: Smith factor may get them fired up.
Point six: There are probably a lot of points I have missed…

 

[Pollywaffle]

Ollie Henry is absolutely lost with his game at the moment, even his kicking has deserted him. An AFL forward line is a cruel place to ply your trade when you have no belief in your game.

I was critical of him during the game. Watching again, he actually did some good unheralded things which coaches will like. (Combined with some apparently poor efforts that may look worse under the scrutiny of unforgiving tv replays.)
Maybe he is doing enough of what the powers that be want in general play. The stuff we don’t see.
Stengle is another who looks all at sea. Small forward such a hard position. We know both have useful upsides. Combine that with not much pressure from others coming through, looks like, as things stand, they just need to keep working and nut it out.

 

[Spearman]

At the end of the day Port had given up and we were dominating them. If Dangerfield was 1 out in forward 50 in such circumstances he likely would've kicked a last quarter bag too.

Despite his erratic form, we should remember Cameron had kicked 4 goals in 3 other games this season. He's 2nd in the Coleman now. He is prolific under any circumstances.

The argument that Dangerfield is taking some of Henry's limelight makes sense (like-for-like role even if Danger plays it very differently), but not that he is responsible for other forwards having off seasons. I'm certain each of those forwards would say exactly the same and mean it.

Stengle for instance is still finding plenty of it inside 50 but has simply hit a rut with finishing off his work. Henry's set shot kicking has fallen off a cliff. And so on.

Yeah, I get those points. But it often seems that whoever is kicking into the 50 is looking for Dangerfield first regardless of how many are on him, or he goes for it anyway and the other forward defer to him. He's a force of nature, and the captain to boot. His zone of impact is wider than most players. The younger guys are not likely yet to knock him aside going for a mark. I'm thinking less about the magnets and more about the people and what goes through their minds as they play. Not many 18 year old rookies would knowingly poach one off a star senior teammate. As was said, JC understood each other quickly and a lot of that was down to personalities.
I think without that personality in the mix, the other guys can kind of sort themselves out a bit.
Also I think the MC should bring in a defense pressure guy who can maybe take a turn in the MF. Replace that part of PFD game.

 

[CatToTheFuture]

Bit different

 

[Vdubs]

Daughters are always our little girls, aren't they?

She'll be grateful for your love and communication.

I sincerely hope her journey becomes much easier and enjoyable.

Marital domestic violence. Took its toll but coming through it slowly.

 

[The_Koulouriotis_Fan]

Bit different

He’s pretty and a bloody good footballer! What more do you want Gryan? Shakespeare?!

 

[Vdubs]

Point one: Port were a rabble after half time. Probably made us look much better than we are.
Point two: Remember Duncan often comes back after an absence, tears it up for a week or two then goes missing for weeks…How many weeks back ? 2 ? Due for a stinker in his 300th.. hope not, but history suggests.
Point three: For some reason we are vulnerable at home these days. Dogs have shown that KP demons are no longer a factor
Point four: No Danger
Point five: Smith factor may get them fired up.
Point six: There are probably a lot of points I have missed…

Watched the game last night. Was expecting a bit closer. EVERYTHING Dogs did came off. Bombers looked nervous. Thursday night- we don't lose on Thursdays do we?- will be a different setting for the Dogs. They are the hottest team when on, no doubt about it, but we seem to have method with stoppers- Mullin is a beauty, with good pace, Bews is back, MOC has found form, and Humphries is brilliant.
And one of my favourite Cats is back- Jack Henry. That will help Ollie as well.
Will still be a huge win if we get up.

 

[Vdubs]

We are talking very early days with that quote, not now. It would be a fine old thing if we were all quoted from the commencement of a players career. Imagine the egg on faces re Zac Guthrie, for instance.
I'm admitting to having initial uncertainty about both Ollie and Zac- just lucky the MC doesn't listen to any of us!

Like you, I had doubts about Dempsey, but have always had time for Zac Guthrie

 

[Cataholic]

Marital domestic violence. Took its toll but coming through it slowly.

My prayers are with you and your daughter.

There are so many good men out there, but I'm ashamed of those who are less than men.

 

[Vdubs]

I watched the 2nd half again , and the most frustrating thing about OH is he doesnt hold his o/head marks , he gets his hands to plenty of them , but i think he drops 80% of them , talk about frustrating

OH is a poor mans Stephen Reynoldson , who was inconsistent himself , but at least some weeks he had sticky fingers and could mark like a champion and he was playing CHF , not as a 3rd forward

OH is fortunate that at this stage Geel have not got a better option than him as 3rd forward , maybe if the ex Carlton player Martin can get physically able to play then that could change the equation

Reynoldson was more a KF though. Classic "built like Tarzan, played like Jane". In today's terms, he would have been short for a KF. Not a bad comparison.

 

[Mr Meow]

Yeah, I get those points. But it often seems that whoever is kicking into the 50 is looking for Dangerfield first regardless of how many are on him, or he goes for it anyway and the other forward defer to him. He's a force of nature, and the captain to boot. His zone of impact is wider than most players. The younger guys are not likely yet to knock him aside going for a mark. I'm thinking less about the magnets and more about the people and what goes through their minds as they play. Not many 18 year old rookies would knowingly poach one off a star senior teammate. As was said, JC understood each other quickly and a lot of that was down to personalities.
I think without that personality in the mix, the other guys can kind of sort themselves out a bit.
Also I think the MC should bring in a defense pressure guy who can maybe take a turn in the MF. Replace that part of PFD game.

You might be right, but often we probably confuse cause-effect with coincidence. Things can happen at the same time without one explaining the other. We miss peak Hawkins and Rohan - that's a bigger factor than Dangerfield disrupting things. Well that's my perspective anyway. We missed Miers badly for 2 and a half games. Sometimes one confidence boosting game is enough to bring players into form - Close, Cameron, maybe next it's Stengle and Henry. But I wouldn't conclude out of that "ah geez, they just couldn't play alongside Dangerfield!". Henry maybe, but not the whole forward line.

 

[Munich]

He’s pretty and a bloody good footballer! What more do you want Gryan? Shakespeare?!

He never used to swear like he does now

I remember watching him in early interviews with the Dogs and he was very well spoken.

 

[Mr Meow]

Point one: Port were a rabble after half time. Probably made us look much better than we are.
Point two: Remember Duncan often comes back after an absence, tears it up for a week or two then goes missing for weeks…How many weeks back ? 2 ? Due for a stinker in his 300th.. hope not, but history suggests.
Point three: For some reason we are vulnerable at home these days. Dogs have shown that KP demons are no longer a factor
Point four: No Danger
Point five: Smith factor may get them fired up.
Point six: There are probably a lot of points I have missed…

All I had read about Duncan was that his first games back are good and his second ones are shockers. Not sure I bought that anyway, but he's had 3 good games back now. He played poorly late last year after we overplayed him through the first 2/3 of out he season though, so after the Bulldogs game he might need a rest.