Mega Thread General MFC Discussion Part III

[schmuttt]

You know how you can tell who everyone is arguing with when you’ve ignored them? This is one of those times.

 

[The Dr]

The club appointing Neeld to blow everything up and start from scratch really was 4D chess all along. Incredible.

Next old mate will be telling us that Fritch will be a finals flop but then say it was actually a plot to spur him into becoming a premiership hero. Oh hang on, that’s already happened


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[SugarHealey]

Ill never forget that offseason when we brought in Dawes, Gillies, Byrnes, Rodan and Pedo.. there were actual Melbourne supporters happy with those moves.

Do you think Mfc would have had a choice of better mature fill-ins, than these you listed.?

Most AFL players would not have wanted to come to the Melbourne of old. Because they had no respect for us for the way we've been for the longest time.
Yet the issue remained, that we needed mature players to come in and to help guide the club in a better direction.

Well, it worked, and here we are. With a 13th Premiership..!

 

[SugarHealey]

Next old mate will be telling us that Fritch will be a finals flop but then say it was actually a plot to spur him

well I' will have to wear that one of your fantasies, won't I.

And with a 13th Flag, i am happy to do just that.

Mind you, I also put a website fire under Big Maxy years back, when he was amateurish.

And then Petracca about 3 seasons back. about his lack of 2nd and 3rd efforts, and his poor fitness.

And then Oliver in about 2019/20... and his flippant handballs over the top and hospital hand-passes putting teammates under the pump and his lack of moving with ball and kicking more.

Now going back awhile, to where Maxy was injured mid season, in was it 2018, or 2017? I suggested throwing TMc forward as a mobile forward/ruck; And Pedo in the ruck as well.
Max and Viney both were injured in the latter half of that season. Viney with his foot complaint. and maybe TMc injured as well? Was it the same year.

I was a supporter of Pedo turning things around, when others wanted him off the list.

So old mate, I am a verry happy interventionist.

 

[Bluelegs]

Matt Burgan is the true master behind the scenes of our success. His uniquely awkward brand of interviewing players after 15 goal losses helped them to reflect on the historical shortcomings of the club and the deeply rooted cultural issues that needed to be overcome. His service will never be forgotten.

 

[A11dAtP0w3R]

Do you think Mfc would have had a choice of better mature fill-ins, than these you listed.?

Most AFL players would not have wanted to come to the Melbourne of old. Because they had no respect for us for the way we've been for the longest time.
Yet the issue remained, that we needed mature players to come in and to help guide the club in a better direction.

Well, it worked, and here we are. With a 13th Premiership..!

They were fails, apart from Pedo, who only ended up working out once Roos took over. You could have run your list 5 men short and it would have worked out better given we gave up pick 20 & 47 and 600k contract for Dawes.

 

[A11dAtP0w3R]

Matt Burgan is the true master behind the scenes of our success. His uniquely awkward brand of interviewing players after 15 goal losses helped them to reflect on the historical shortcomings of the club and the deeply rooted cultural issues that needed to be overcome. His service will never be forgotten.

Bloke was nearly in tears interviewing players sometimes, could tell he felt so bad for them

 

[Bluelegs]

Bloke was nearly in tears interviewing players sometimes, could tell he felt so bad for them

The succession plan for similarly awkward Ben Gibson has been a roaring success though.

 

[MarcMaverick]

Just watched Reverend addressing the team post the 1998 Qualifying Final. Man I miss his voice and his timbre and Neale being unencumbered by illness. **** MND.

 

[The Dr]

well I' will have to wear that one of your fantasies, won't I.

And with a 13th Flag, i am happy to do just that.

Mind you, I also put a website fire under Big Maxy years back, when he was amateurish.

And then Petracca about 3 seasons back. about his lack of 2nd and 3rd efforts, and his poor fitness.

And then Oliver in about 2019/20... and his flippant handballs over the top and hospital hand-passes putting teammates under the pump and his lack of moving with ball and kicking more.

Now going back awhile, to where Maxy was injured mid season, in was it 2018, or 2017? I suggested throwing TMc forward as a mobile forward/ruck; And Pedo in the ruck as well.
Max and Viney both were injured in the latter half of that season. Viney with his foot complaint. and maybe TMc injured as well? Was it the same year.

I was a supporter of Pedo turning things around, when others wanted him off the list.

So old mate, I am a verry happy interventionist.

Incredible that the players and coaches read your posts to put all that amazing strategy into action [emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]


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[Russian Demon]

Incredible that the players and coaches read your posts to put all that amazing strategy into action [emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]


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I'd recommend you avail yourself of the ignore functionality.

Makes this place nearly sane

 

[SugarHealey]

They were fails, apart from Pedo, who only ended up working out once Roos took over. You could have run your list 5 men short and it would have worked out better given we gave up pick 20 & 47 and 600k contract for Dawes.

No they weren't. Depends how you look at it.

Building an AFL list is like hopping from rock to rock, to get across the stream, or River if you prefer. You start from the lower levels of your team, when getting beaten, and add in players, pieces, or rocks if you will, from season to season; to get to the other end of your ambitions.

A story of attrition. If the club has a sound sort of culture in the first place.

Look at the Cfc and how they got down into the mire. They're culture was awful for some time, and they won they're past flags from buying players from Sydney, thru Edelstone. Rhys-Jones, Barry Mitchell, Greg Williams, all at an easy transaction from a Carlton supporter, who happened to own the Sydney Swans.!
And mega support from that pratt.

Its taken them 20 something years of woe. and only now, lately, have they started to come out of it, and started to build a list. And still they white-ant other clubs.

So back to the topic of Dawes and crew. They helped to steer the club in the right direction on and off the field even IF they weren't that great as individual footballers.
Dawes was cooked, but still able to make the Melbourne side. He tried to help watts, but to no real avail. One of the trade outs, that Roosy had to do, to help the club.
He who just wanna have fun. watts.
I'll just go and powder my nose, and be back in a flash.
Yes he was leading a few astray, inc' Petracca, i am led to believe. He had to GO.!

Roosy did a fine job, and gave the players back responsibility as they went along. starting with our percentages... becoming harder to play against. Sound familiar.

Recruiting players who are more experienced than what you have, to support the young talent, is crucial. Even if the mature players don't have the same level of talent.

They all helped to build us, to get us to where we are today.

 

[Topkent]

Roosy didn't trade out watts knackerbag. Would think you'd know that with all your inside knowledge

 

[pjfairbairn]

SugarHealey

 

[SugarHealey]

Incredible that the players and coaches read your posts to put all that amazing strategy into action [emoji23][emoji23][emoji23]


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It is, isn't it. And didn't fritz have something to prove in that finals series, last season.

Every time he kicked another goal in the Granny, all players came up to celebrate, and they all did more than that, that had sentences of encouragement in his ear, which brought smiles from fritta's face.

More than the plain celebrating, with other goal kickers.

IMV, fritta could have gone either way come finals time; as his confidence was shallow. So I decided to give him some needle, to which he would have heard of along the grapevine.

This I hoped woukld give him some weeks before Finals, to consider the worst scenario and to steel himself against that worst scenario. rather than just finding himself there, and wham.
Maybe against Geelong, or maybe against the Lions. One of them would have tried to sort him out. But he had a great finals series, hitting top form prior to finals. Kicking 7 goals in Rnd 22 against the Crows. Only weeks after the needle.

Against the Cats he fared a bit worse, but managed 1 goal, and a 2 goal haul in the finals.

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[A11dAtP0w3R]

No they weren't. Depends how you look at it.

Building an AFL list is like hopping from rock to rock, to get across the stream, or River if you prefer. You start from the lower levels of your team, when getting beaten, and add in players, pieces, or rocks if you will, from season to season; to get to the other end of your ambitions.

A story of attrition. If the club has a sound sort of culture in the first place.

Look at the Cfc and how they got down into the mire. They're culture was awful for some time, and they won they're past flags from buying players from Sydney, thru Edelstone. Rhys-Jones, Barry Mitchell, Greg Williams, all at an easy transaction from a Carlton supporter, who happened to own the Sydney Swans.!
And mega support from that pratt.

Its taken them 20 something years of woe. and only now, lately, have they started to come out of it, and started to build a list. And still they white-ant other clubs.

So back to the topic of Dawes and crew. They helped to steer the club in the right direction on and off the field even IF they weren't that great as individual footballers.
Dawes was cooked, but still able to make the Melbourne side. He tried to help watts, but to no real avail. One of the trade outs, that Roosy had to do, to help the club.
He who just wanna have fun. watts.
I'll just go and powder my nose, and be back in a flash.
Yes he was leading a few astray, inc' Petracca, i am led to believe. He had to GO.!

Roosy did a fine job, and gave the players back responsibility as they went along. starting with our percentages... becoming harder to play against. Sound familiar.

Recruiting players who are more experienced than what you have, to support the young talent, is crucial. Even if the mature players don't have the same level of talent.

They all helped to build us, to get us to where we are today.

Carn Whooooo, we've been down this road before and it ended up with you being a GWS fan for a while there, I know you have fond memories/want to try and squeeze positives from an era no one else does and thats up to you, just dont expect that youre going to convince anyone else otherwise

 

[SugarHealey]

Roosy didn't trade out watts knackerbag. Would think you'd know that with all your inside knowledge

Knackerbag, well i haven't heard that one in a while.

Wattsy. You've forgotten when Roosy didn't want to drop him, the season prior, until late in the season, and the next season he was chopped, after not being in fit shape.

Roosy had him stamped in 2016. Goody gave him another chance. just one.

Well inside knowledge, hmmn. lets see. we could have had Templeton, and Moore, or David Cloke, Or Lockett and Frawley.
Did you know about that one?

 

[SugarHealey]

Carn Whooooo, we've been down this road before and it ended up with you being a GWS fan for a while there, I know you have fond memories/want to try and squeeze positives from an era no one else does and thats up to you, just dont expect that youre going to convince anyone else otherwise

A GWS fan, what do you mean?

 

[A11dAtP0w3R]

A GWS fan, what do you mean?

Well, if you are who Proper Gander says you are , you are Dr Whoooooooo, last time seen on big footy was an ex MFC now GWS fan, but you would already know that so I dont know why im explaining it to you.

 

[SugarHealey]

Im convinced, Mark Neeld is a hero

An 'anti hero', around here, it seems. But he is a part of our history, and in the scheme of things, only a very short time before we achieved our ultimate success.

So he didn't blow the club up, but he did blow up the old culture, whether by hook or by crook. Or good or poor management.

Others will speculate from outside and come up with they're preferred answers, that suit themselves.

 

[Topkent]

Knackerbag, well i haven't heard that one in a while.

Wattsy. You've forgotten when Roosy didn't want to drop him, the season prior, until late in the season, and the next season he was chopped, after not being in fit shape.

Roosy had him stamped in 2016. Goody gave him another chance. just one.

Well inside knowledge, hmmn. lets see. we could have had Templeton, and Moore, or David Cloke, Or Lockett and Frawley.
Did you know about that one?

So Roos didn't trade him ****ed that one up didn't ya.

Lockett and Frawley righto chief.

 

[SugarHealey]

Well, if you are who Proper Gander says you are , you are Dr Whoooooooo, last time seen on big footy was an ex MFC now GWS fan, but you would already know that so I dont know why im explaining it to you.

I have never been Dr who, and rarely ever watched that show. and didn't fit that nerdy style.

No I don't have an alias here. So there is one avatar you can forget about. that aint me.

 

[A11dAtP0w3R]

An 'anti hero', around here, it seems. But he is a part of our history, and in the scheme of things, only a very short time before we achieved our ultimate success.

So he didn't blow the club up, but he did blow up the old culture, whether by hook or by crook. Or good or poor management.

Others will speculate from outside and come up with they're preferred answers, that suit themselves.

Id give the AFL far more credit than Neeld if you want to find an unlikely hero, if they didnt step in and appoint Jackson ive got no doubt we would have screwed up the next coaching search also if left to our own devices.

 

[A11dAtP0w3R]

I have never been Dr who, and rarely ever watched that show. and didn't fit that nerdy style.

No I don't have an alias here. So there is one avatar you can forget about. that aint me.

I thought it was confirmed by the mods that it was you, but fair enough if not, apologises.

 

[SugarHealey]

So Roos didn't trade him f’ed that one up didn't ya.

Lockett and Frawley righto chief.

Yes, it was on Goody's watch, i did forget that timeline, but I was 100% behind the decision, as I was ahead of time Re Hogan.

Locket and Frawley: you hadn't heard of that means you were not on the inside at clubland, back then.

How old are you?