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May 23, 2016
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I'm a West Australian whose lived in Melbourne for 3 years, and I've often wondered just how much of a correlation there is between where a club is based and where there supporters are, if at all. Nowadays it seems pretty random, but living in Footscray it really does seem a lot of Bulldogs supporters still live in the West. In Perth, I'm not sure about the WAFL since most teams are based in Fremantle, Perth and the Western suburbs (there's Peel and Swan Districts, West Perth used to play some games in Joondalup in the far north, no idea about now), but support for the WAFL among the masses declined a lot with the WCE and Dockers. There's this idea more Docker fans are south of the Swan River, and Eagles are north, but I haven't noticed a correlation.

Anyway, since people have moved around so much, people tend not to have a 'local club' so much, but do you notice that say, more Saints fans live in the South/Bayside suburbs, Bulldogs fans in the West, Essendon/Carlton in the North, Hawthorn and Richmond in the East? Most clubs were established when Melbourne was a much smaller city geographically, so now the vast majority of supporters live in the suburbs far away from these inner areas anyway. Like one couldn't really draw 'watersheds' for each club, since many would overlap, and many are basically next to each other. Collingwood supporters seem pretty much spread everywhere, although some might argue they're thicker in the more 'bogan' areas. Do some clubs still have certain associations? Like Carlton with Italians, Collingwood as the 'feral' club, St. Kilda and Hawthorn as sort of toffy, Richmond and Footscray as working class. It just seems to me if you're a Victorian whatever club you support is random or based on a personal connection.

Probably already know the answer but just thought it was an interesting topic to discuss. I'm wondering if there've been any studies plotting the addresses of members of each club though? Like if one looked at Western Bulldogs memberships, if they'd be significantly more common in the western suburbs.
 

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Quick (and somewhat overly simplistic) summary of Vic clubs:

Carlton: Predominantly northern suburbs. Some support in eastern suburbs or anywhere with Italians.
Collingwood: Melbourne wide support, higher concentration in northern suburbs.
Essendon: Melbourne wide support, higher concentration in the north-western suburbs.
Geelong: Geelong area (duh), anyone descented from people from the Geelong area, western suburbs, anywhere in country Victoria as 'the country team'.
Hawthorn: Eastern and south-eastern suburbs.
Melbourne: The rich inner eastern and inner southern suburbs, with very little to non-existent support outside of this area.
North Melbourne: Western and northern suburbs, but generally plays second (or third, or fourth) fiddle to other teams in their areas.
Richmond: Eastern and south-eastern suburbs.
St Kilda: Bayside suburbs and Mornington Peninsula with very little support elsewhere.
Western Bulldogs: Western suburbs with very little support elsewhere (virtually nonexistent east of the CBD).

Sydney/South Melbourne: Their traditional area around South Melbourne, Middle Park etc. Supporter base is somewhat dispersed through the east though, not to mention NSW expats.
Brisbane/Fitzroy: North-eastern suburbs, but well and truly behind other teams in this area and support for them hasn't been passed onto kids like it has with the Swans.
 
Geelong: Geelong area (duh), anyone descented from people from the Geelong area, western suburbs, anywhere in country Victoria as 'the country team'.
Not sure that I'd say 'anywhere' in country Victoria. But certainly they dominate south-western Victoria.
 
Not sure that I'd say 'anywhere' in country Victoria. But certainly they dominate south-western Victoria.
People from Riverina, Echuca, Cohuna & Barham tend to have a soft spot for Geelong given it was their territory in the 70's & 80's.
 
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1 Ess, 2 Carl, 3 Coll, 4 Rich/Melb, 5 St.K

You can see why S Melb and Fitz got squeezed, not being on a major suburban rail why St K's move to Moorabbin was an inspired one and why Ess and Coll did well.

Obviously the 1925 clubs changed this up somewhat as did post war suburbanisation, but the basic structure remains the same.

https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/traditional-fan-heartland-graphic-design-challenge.788559/
 
I recall selecting this very topic for a school project back when I was in Grade 5.

The sample size was only small (200 people surveyed) but from memory I recall there was a correlation between the two. There were only 12 Victorian clubs in the league at the time.
 

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Not sure that I'd say 'anywhere' in country Victoria. But certainly they dominate south-western Victoria.

I don't mean that they're the dominant team throughout all of country Vic, but the Cats would be the most supported throughout country Vic as a whole even if you took out the south-west. You'll still find a decent amount in the east of Vic despite Melbourne being closer than Geelong.
 
Quick (and somewhat overly simplistic) summary of Vic clubs:

Carlton: Predominantly northern suburbs. Some support in eastern suburbs or anywhere with Italians.
Collingwood: Melbourne wide support, higher concentration in northern suburbs.
Essendon: Melbourne wide support, higher concentration in the north-western suburbs.
Geelong: Geelong area (duh), anyone descented from people from the Geelong area, western suburbs, anywhere in country Victoria as 'the country team'.
Hawthorn: Eastern and south-eastern suburbs.
Melbourne: The rich inner eastern and inner southern suburbs, with very little to non-existent support outside of this area.
North Melbourne: Western and northern suburbs, but generally plays second (or third, or fourth) fiddle to other teams in their areas.
Richmond: Eastern and south-eastern suburbs.
St Kilda: Bayside suburbs and Mornington Peninsula with very little support elsewhere.
Western Bulldogs: Western suburbs with very little support elsewhere (virtually nonexistent east of the CBD).

Sydney/South Melbourne: Their traditional area around South Melbourne, Middle Park etc. Supporter base is somewhat dispersed through the east though, not to mention NSW expats.
Brisbane/Fitzroy: North-eastern suburbs, but well and truly behind other teams in this area and support for them hasn't been passed onto kids like it has with the Swans.
So in and around the suburb where each club is/were based?

Geez, well done Einstein.
 
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1 Ess, 2 Carl, 3 Coll, 4 Rich/Melb, 5 St.K

You can see why S Melb and Fitz got squeezed, not being on a major suburban rail why St K's move to Moorabbin was an inspired one and why Ess and Coll did well.

Obviously the 1925 clubs changed this up somewhat as did post war suburbanisation, but the basic structure remains the same.

https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/traditional-fan-heartland-graphic-design-challenge.788559/

that whole post looks very familiar !
 

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Probably stole it from you :), i wasn't sure how to link it showing the graphic, otherwise the link without the graphic showing would have lost impact.

Sorry


no dramas
 
So in and around the suburb where each club is/were based?

Geez, well done Einstein.

The clubs were pretty much based around train lines. Not everyone here knows the geography of Melbourne.

Didn't realise Hawthorn and Richmond were 30km east of the CBD either smartarse.
 

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