Rumour GFC 2019 Player Trading, Drafting FA, Rumours and Wish lists.

[Sttew]

Fat Jack is a disappointing target imo.
He'll get games on reputation at the Cats, and we know the MC love to play guys out of position just to squeeze them in because.

He's not in great condition, and I expect he'll be like a little version of Jesse Hogan. Rock up to pre season the size of a whale, have to work twice as hard just to drop skin folds, then get injured and miss huge slabs of playing and training.

I'd rather we put more time into Narkle, Parfitt, Miers, Constable etc through the middle than waste time with this plonker, no matter how cheap he comes.

Let’s reserve judgment until preseason. There is no doubting Steven’s ability and stamina. Get him fit and he could be very handy. We all wrote Harry Taylor off in 2018. Yet with a strong preseason he bounced back

 

[Turbocat]

Hi Turbocat
I'm not as close to the WAFL scene as I was 4 years ago when my son was playing Colts , I also coached Year 12 then and knew a few boys who were drafted.
I'd say Marlion may pave the way for a guy like Jye Bolton who is also 27 and very talented , Horsley is a gun but too old and Schloite is also talented but I think he's lost his edginess by being overlooked several times.
Keitel was very stiff not to be drafted as an 18yo - most key talls were also kept on the shelf that year including Jack Cripps ( Paddy cousin).
Keitel is a good size , excellent set shot and has played ruck so he's versatile. He'd be 23-24 so would be worth a rookie spot as a key forward prospect to fill a need.
I'm sure there are others but as I said I'm not that close to it these days

He would seem to me be an ideal type ..cheap young mature ..slot him in to the backline in the VFL and see if he is good enough... there are probably several like this...from memory he was surprisingly over looked in his draft year... not sure if there are other reasons..

 

[Gee Class Loco]

Fat Jack is a disappointing target imo.
He'll get games on reputation at the Cats, and we know the MC love to play guys out of position just to squeeze them in because.

He's not in great condition, and I expect he'll be like a little version of Jesse Hogan. Rock up to pre season the size of a whale, have to work twice as hard just to drop skin folds, then get injured and miss huge slabs of playing and training.

I'd rather we put more time into Narkle, Parfitt, Miers, Constable etc through the middle than waste time with this plonker, no matter how cheap he comes.

Disappointing Target?
Ummm.. So a cheap walk up starter that automatically makes our bottom 6 that much better. Who also Plays in multiple positions and can can play multiple roles.
Not in great condition?? Yep he wasn't... in 2019. Blind Freddy could see that. But will he be in march 2020?? I say NOT.
If they are good enough they will play. But NONE of those 4 have speed to burn like Jack. As he has it in spades & is hard as nails to boot.
For a 3rd round pick we get a 29yo that will give us 2 top years of football... if not 3. FROM the GET GO. Not as you put it a PLONKER.
Thank GOD Stephen wells calls the shots.
Cheers

 

[Turbocat]

Looking in detail at the potential draftees I would be more than happy with any of about 15 guys. If we could get 2 picks underneath our current 1st rounder I think he can have a good draft and replicate what Port Adelaide did last year with Rozee, Duursma and Butters.

Two under 17-20 TP... may be pushing it a bit but I agree with the thrust of your post. I think they are slightly under developed compared to last year... soid like to see them go mid, mid , mid with a bias towards aggressive nature. Guys who will eat raw steak and and drink the 5 eggs in a glass.. rather than the pretty players. Of course no one gets picked if they cant cover ground and be good in most areas anyone especially top25.

I think back to our finals ..and it says a lot when we are asking Hawkins to be the big bad guy. He is not a mooney. And where is our Chappy , or Rooke , our Milburn let alone Joel Selwood. I was hoping Buzza may have a bit of that ..but he seems too nice.

 

[Turbocat]

#54 for Jack Steven would be the steal of the trade period.

There's every chance he produces output almost at TK levels for another 2-3 years. It's not unrealistic to think he could make an AA squad or two in his time with us, if he's fit and motivated.

If we bank 2x first rounders for TK and draft two quality youngsters - or one youngster and trade for another established player - we will be in good shape both short and long term.

#54 for Jack Steven could potentially be the steal of the trade period. .. but it has a lot of risk..

When he came back for the Saints he still had speed even when heavy. He lacked stamina... and Geelong would demand more of him in that than perhaps he has ever had at the Saints. Miers could embarrass him in the PS ..

 

[Danger2Selwood]

I'd move Danger to a half back flank and Selwood forward. Dont want 30 year olds in the midfield.

I think Danger forward is too hungry and his goal kicking isn't good enough, I'd like to see him bursting out of the back line and hitting up the mids.

Give Narkle, Parfitt and Constable the reigns.

Would try trade Menegola, he is a nothing player and his value will only continue to diminish.

Don't mind your thinking but do you seriously want a bloke who can't kick on the half back flank? It's just about the worst place you can turn the footy over.


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[Turbocat]

Disappointing Target?
Ummm.. So a cheap walk up starter that automatically makes our bottom 6 that much better. Who also Plays in multiple positions and can can play multiple roles.
Not in great condition?? Yep he wasn't... in 2019. Blind Freddy could see that. But will he be in march 2020?? I say NOT.
If they are good enough they will play. But NONE of those 4 have speed to burn like Jack. As he has it in spades & is hard as nails to boot.
For a 3rd round pick we get a 29yo that will give us 2 top years of football... if not 3. FROM the GET GO. Not as you put it a PLONKER.
Thank GOD Stephen wells calls the shots.
Cheers

Id say ..if he is right to go health wize.. my bet he drops weight by christmas. He has been in the system for 10 years.. id say he would know his body..

 

[catempire]

#54 for Jack Steven could potentially be the steal of the trade period. .. but it has a lot of risk..

When he cam back for the Saints he still had speed even when heavy. He lacked stamina... and Geelong would demand more of him in that than perhaps he has ever had at the Saints. Miers could embarrass him in the PS ..

A lot of risk? For a pick that averages 27 AFL games? Can’t see it.

 

[Down at K Park]

I'd be happier about Jack Steven if I was to hear something along the lines of him training hard now to be ready to go for day 1 of pre-season. Hope he's not just sitting around eating pies and cakes.

 

[Pure_Ownage]

#54 for Jack Steven could potentially be the steal of the trade period. .. but it has a lot of risk..

When he cam back for the Saints he still had speed even when heavy. He lacked stamina... and Geelong would demand more of him in that than perhaps he has ever had at the Saints. Miers could embarrass him in the PS ..

It comes back to if hes cheap hes worth the risk-he has been elite and you rarely get that after pick 40. If hes expensive im not interested.

 

[Turbocat]

I'd move Danger to a half back flank and Selwood forward. Dont want 30 year olds in the midfield.

I think Danger forward is too hungry and his goal kicking isn't good enough, I'd like to see him bursting out of the back line and hitting up the mids.

Give Narkle, Parfitt and Constable the reigns.

Would try trade Menegola, he is a nothing player and his value will only continue to diminish.

We dont have enough backline players atm? While Danger has spring and pace he can play much harder roles than just a rebounding type imo. He is in need of a 2006 honest session about his kicking at goal. Id be telling him he could be kicking a 100 goals if you can build a strong setshot. Has GA sr potential.... but I feel most of the modern mids know that being the free roller in the middle is a pretty good way to play... It basically took till he was done and no choice for GAblett to move there.

I get what you are saying... my question is we can swap horse but Im not sure the horse we have can do it without falling short. We dont have a young Hopper or Green etc. Constable maybe if only he was quicker..thats the issue with guys who slip out that range ..always some sort of neg.

 

[Turbocat]

It comes back to if hes cheap hes worth the risk-he has been elite and you rarely get that after pick 40. If hes expensive im not interested.

I think we are dancing to a simialr tune... i get the feeling now we have been a little more proactive in the chase ..so having that.. my bet is we do trade a 40 something if we have it. He will get fit.

 

[Farmer2Goggin]

He would seem to me be an ideal type ..cheap young mature ..slot him in to the backline in the VFL and see if he is good enough... there are probably several like this...from memory he was surprisingly over looked in his draft year... not sure if there are other reasons..

I believe his character is first class so no issues there - he was just stiff in his draft year that there wasn't a need for tall forwards.
I'd liken him to Oscar Allen - more a lean , mobile forward with good hands rather than a strong power forward like Hawk or Kennedy.
We've got Kreuger who is a similar type so I suspect we will overlook him.

 

[Commando]

Just been spending some time on the Eagles board discussing TK trade value...

Picks 14/24 seems to be the maximum they think he’s worth

 

[thecatattack]

Just been spending some time on the Eagles board discussing TK trade value...

Picks 14/24 seems to be the maximum they think he’s worth

They’re nuffies if they don’t think he’s worth more than that.

Will we get more than that is unknown though.

 

[dazbroncos]

I'd be happier about Jack Steven if I was to hear something along the lines of him training hard now to be ready to go for day 1 of pre-season. Hope he's not just sitting around eating pies and cakes.

Pretty sure that Motlop took his vest with him

Hopefully...



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[Commando]

They’re nuffies if they don’t think he’s worth more than that.

Will we get more than that is unknown though.

I reckon that will be the trade plus some steak knives

 

[Lana]

Scooter was reportedly on circa $450k when he signed his three year contract, too.

Zac Smith would have been on $400k

Those wouldn't have been guaranteed amounts, given that they played 5 games between them and that their spots on the list have to be filled which takes out 100k per player. We might only be freeing up 200-300k in total.

 

[catempire]

Those wouldn't have been guaranteed amounts, given that they played 5 games between them and that their spots on the list have to be filled which takes out 100k per player. We might only be freeing up 200-300k in total.

You’re confusing amounts paid with cap space. You have to have enough cap space for a scenario where they play every game.

 

[Pure_Ownage]

I think we are dancing to a simialr tune... i get the feeling now we have been a little more proactive in the chase ..so having that.. my bet is we do trade a 40 something if we have it. He will get fit.

40 i could live with at a pinch. Maybe 54 plus a fringe player (not Constable). Just keep 16 + whatever picks we get for kelly. Sounds like Wells thinks we will get him.

 

[Pure_Ownage]

I believe his character is first class so no issues there - he was just stiff in his draft year that there wasn't a need for tall forwards.
I'd liken him to Oscar Allen - more a lean , mobile forward with good hands rather than a strong power forward like Hawk or Kennedy.
We've got Kreuger who is a similar type so I suspect we will overlook him.

I was keen on Keitel in his draft year but scuttlebutt is he's a bit of a knob and thats why clubs keep overlooking him.

 

[Lana]

You’re confusing amounts paid with cap space. You have to have enough cap space for a scenario where they play every game.

They'd be a bunch of mutually exclusive triggers on things like games played, BnF finishing positions etc. Those potential earning would have been taken up by different players.

 

[Kingsfoil]

Just been spending some time on the Eagles board discussing TK trade value...

Picks 14/24 seems to be the maximum they think he’s worth

Then they shouldn't be too upset when he goes to Freo.

 

[strauchnyy]

Can we send in the signed paperwork now?

Whilst it’s unlikely we’d get 6+7 for Kelly, it’s still closer to parity than what eagle flog fans think is fair (14+24).

Mind you, I’d still prefer Kelly than 6+7 in this draft. 100%

 

[catempire]

They'd be a bunch of mutually exclusive triggers on things like games played, BnF finishing positions etc. Those potential earning would have been taken up by different players.

Not all players are on match payments. Players of a certain calibre just get guaranteed salary. For those that get match payments you have to assume a certain % of them will play AFL and you have to have the cap space to cover that. And the assumption has to be conservative because if you have a lot of injuries you might end up playing a lot of them and chewing up the cap space.