Rumour GFC 2021 Player Trading, Drafting FA, Rumours and Wish lists

[CatToTheFuture]

Another injured draftee....

Did he also have a heart condition or is that one of the other swimmers?

Yeah had surgery to fix an irregular heartbeat. Similar to Guthrie potentially

 

[CatToTheFuture]

I presume we would like at it as a cheap chance Rookie B etc. 193cm ..Kolo height.. does he fit a need? What type of player would he be. No real information means one can't judge his worth.

Generally if you are over the 2M then the skills being required would be less, if he is appealing to the club it shows how much the aerobic capacity must play a role in recruitment

Fair to say he probably played footy as a kid and can run all day. Chuck him on the wing in the vfl and see what happens.

He might be thinking Tokyo will be his last swim and he's a 2024 player

 

[cats_09]

I presume we would like at it as a cheap chance Rookie B etc. 193cm ..Kolo height.. does he fit a need? What type of player would he be. No real information means one can't judge his worth.

Generally if you are over the 2M then the skills being required would be less, if he is appealing to the club it shows how much the aerobic capacity must play a role in recruitment

No idea

I've long heard his name linked to a move to AFL but can't recall ever really hearing about what type of player he is

 

[cats_09]

Fair to say he probably played footy as a kid and can run all day. Chuck him on the wing in the vfl and see what happens.

He might be thinking Tokyo will be his last swim and he's a 2024 player

May also be more money in AFL than swimming

 

[Turbocat]

Fair to say he probably played footy as a kid and can run all day. Chuck him on the wing in the vfl and see what happens.

He might be thinking Tokyo will be his last swim and he's a 2024 player

WE could have gone thru two coaches by the time he is ready to play. 100-1 melb cup long shot but if tehy like him ...then history says they identify talent well

 

[Jhye Clark 13]

He'll end up at Port.

 

[CatToTheFuture]

He'll end up at Port.

That's the very short odds favourite given he's an ambassador for them, but definitely sounds like we're putting in the work.

 

[Turbocat]

Do we have enough indiginious players on our list. Their creativity is so instinctually , it makes football so much more enjoyable to watch. It probably would not hurt in trying to keep our other indig player more comfortable either.

Not sure who we could get , but I do love goal kickers.


...and so far, as much as Brisbane were getting all the aclaims about being miricle workers...so far no Cockatoo.

 

[Turbocat]

He'll end up at Port.

Astute observation. It would make sense, he probably has dreamed of playing for them etc.

 

[Baudolino]

For some reason even though there's speculation surrounding the futures of both of them, I feel far more confident in our ability to retain Clark than our ability to retain Narkle.

 

[Turbocat]

Technically wouldn't it be draft tampering if they had him put a price on his head so North wouldn't grab him and then they don't pay the price?

Just what is and is not draft tampering seems a bit rubbery. If Haw say to do this , so no one else will draft you.... draft tampering? Every player can do the same thing, and other clubs can pay it.

Does every club with a father sone or academy pick that trades out picks tamper with the draft? I think if I was Collingwood id even consider asking Dacios to not nominate this year. The year they will finish lower than they anticipated, and the need to trade out players to clean up their cap.

Over the journey there have been several players have have been honets about not wanting to be drafted by this club or that. Tampering?

 

[Turbocat]

For some reason even though there's speculation surrounding the futures of both of them, I feel far more confident in our ability to retain Clark than our ability to retain Narkle.

well Clark is contracted.

 

[Baudolino]

well Clark is contracted.

I know but I guess I'm just talking about who I think we're more likely to keep long-term, not just in terms of next season.

 

[catempire]

I know but I guess I'm just talking about who I think we're more likely to keep long-term, not just in terms of next season.

Both gorn IMO.

 

[CatToTheFuture]

WE could have gone thru two coaches by the time he is ready to play. 100-1 melb cup long shot but if tehy like him ...then history says they identify talent well

We've been through 2 in 20 years so if doubt we'd go through that many again in the three or so years it would take. Likely the coach he'd debut for wouldn't be Scott though

 

[Turbocat]

I know but I guess I'm just talking about who I think we're more likely to keep long-term, not just in terms of next season.

Clark would have to become a regular agina for me to be confident. If he stays in and out of the VFL/AFL its only a matter of time imo.

 

[CatToTheFuture]

For some reason even though there's speculation surrounding the futures of both of them, I feel far more confident in our ability to retain Clark than our ability to retain Narkle.

I feel the opposite. Narks was drafted off an acl injury, persevered with through a long development, and only now has really shown anything other than a few glimpses. He can't fault the clubs commitment to him I wouldn't think. Jordy is getting played out of position to challenge him to be a better player, but he could go to a club and never get dropped. He would never get dropped here after 2022 either though tbh

 

[Turbocat]

We've been through 2 in 20 years so if doubt we'd go through that many again in the three or so years it would take. Likely the coach he'd debut for wouldn't be Scott though

Thats true although Ess have been thru a few since Sheedy. The long terms seem to be followed by shorter terms.

Right now, if I were to pick our next coach... hard to see someone we would sign and keep for ten years. I agree that we do tend to give them time.
In fact if Scott left at years end, who would we look to get? Probably a fresh face as thats what we have done recently, so that means they would have to be willing to give them time.

 

[CatToTheFuture]

Thats true although Ess have been thru a few since Sheedy. The long terms seem to be followed by shorter terms.

Right now, if I were to pick our next coach... hard to see someone we would sign and keep for ten years. I agree that we do tend to give them time.
In fact if Scott left at years end, who would we look to get? Probably a fresh face as thats what we have done recently, so that means they would have to be willing to give them time.

We've had 4 coaches since the fall of the soviet union. Fairly confident the next guy gets minimum 5 years whoever they are

 

[Pure_Ownage]

That's the very short odds favourite given he's an ambassador for them, but definitely sounds like we're putting in the work.

Good to see.

 

[Turbocat]

We've had 4 coaches since the fall of the soviet union. Fairly confident the next guy gets minimum 5 years whoever they are

Thats one reference I have not seen before.

 

[CatToTheFuture]

Thats one reference I have not seen before.

It's good to put things into historical context sometimes

 

[Isaac Norm Smith]

Clark will definitely go IMO. He is under contract of course, but Kelly aside, historically we don't stand in the way of players wanting to move on, especially if it's for more opportunities. Kelly was a unique one as he was an absolute star for us, so Wells just had to dig his heels in there. But I don't think we will with Clark.

My gut feel is he will request a trade, not necessarily back to WA either. He could well go to a Melbourne club. IMO, he is no longer worth a first rounder (probably more a pick in the early to mid 20's), but given we hold the cards due to him being contracted, we will likely get a first rounder which will be a great outcome.

I'd like him to stay, but I won't be devastated if he leaves. There is a chance he may not be the player we thought he could be. His kicking and lack of defensive side to his game do concern me a bit.

 

[Jhye Clark 13]

Clark will definitely go IMO. He is under contract of course, but Kelly aside, historically we don't stand in the way of players wanting to move on, especially if it's for more opportunities. Kelly was a unique one as he was an absolute star for us, so Wells just had to dig his heels in there. But I don't think we will with Clark.

My gut feel is he will request a trade, not necessarily back to WA either. He could well go to a Melbourne club. IMO, he is no longer worth a first rounder (probably more a pick in the early to mid 20's), but given we hold the cards due to him being contracted, we will likely get a first rounder which will be a great outcome.

I'd like him to stay, but I won't be devastated if he leaves. There is a chance he may not be the player we thought he could be. His kicking and lack of defensive side to his game do concern me a bit.

Not a hope we get a first rounder.

 

[Isaac Norm Smith]

Not a hope we get a first rounder.

Agree he's not worth that. But my thinking is we hold the cards given his contract.