Rumour GFC 2021 Player Trading, Drafting FA, Rumours and Wish lists

[Grimoz]

Could Freo swap 8 and 27 with Brisbane for 14 and 18 and then on trade 18 to Geelong for Clark.

Id give them a late pick with Clark and take 14.

 

[Leeds17]

Spot on. But both Demons and Cats had solid defences.

Salem, May & Lever all well above average kicks, I’d even take Rivers or Bowey kicking the ball over most of our defenders.

 

[CatToTheFuture]

Do we expect Neale will be ready for a few senior games in 2022? Keen to get a look at him.

I'm guessing not as a ruck but if we get a run of injuries to forwards he might get a look as a 3rd tall

 

[CatToTheFuture]

I think the narrative will be if he can’t even crack a Geelong side crying out for young players coming through, and most Cats fans seem indifferent to him being traded, it’s better to walk away than to split a top 10 pick.

Certainly not helping Clarke out, the club doesn’t rate the wingers currently on the list and they want one that is almost plug and play whilst Fyfe is still around, but who will stick around with the likes of Brayshaw, Darcy Serong etc.

Personally I don’t think a late first/early second is unreasonable, just don’t want to downgrade our picks.

That's fair enough but you should also consider that the cats are under new management and a new defensive line coach will likely take a very different view to Scarlett.

I think the cats position will be to make unreasonable demands until you go away because he's contracted

 

[CarAttack]

Plenty of gushing over Melb, and fair enough after beating up Geelong in a prelim and Dogs in the GF. Also some good discussions in here about our draft and trade targets.

But it is easy to lose perspective on how the Dees got to the point of winning big last night. They were terrible for a sustained period of time and as a result, the handicapper (AFL) gave them multiple goes at the lucky dip of high end picks.

So I’m wondering (if anyone can help out)……

(1) How many first round draft picks (or first round players traded in from other clubs ) did Melb have last night?

(2) How many did Bulldogs have?

(3) Any by comparison - how many do Geelong have on its list?

I suspect the answers might point to our need to bring a few kids in and play them - like we did with Holmes this year.


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Good luck to Melbourne but at the end of the day they stunk it up for years and as you said, the AFL handicap system has paid off in spades.
Pretty sure Petracca, Oliver, Brayshaw, Jackson are all top 5 picks.
Salem was top 10 & Viney FS. Probably missing a couple of others but that’s a pretty handy treasure chest for basically being incompetent.
But they certainly got it all going now and I do feel good for their supporters.

 

[Strange Cat]

Good luck to Melbourne but at the end of the day they stunk it up for years and as you said, the AFL handicap system has paid off in spades.
Pretty sure Petracca, Oliver, Brayshaw, Jackson are all top 5 picks.
Salem was top 10 & Viney FS. Probably missing a couple of others but that’s a pretty handy treasure chest for basically being incompetent.
But they certainly got it all going now and I do feel good for their supporters.

Not only that but the AFL protecting them from the tanking penalty and that they even went out of their way to get Paul Roos to help to help them out on the AFL dime

they are hardly the model of success

 

[Mad_Hatter]

Good luck to Melbourne but at the end of the day they stunk it up for years and as you said, the AFL handicap system has paid off in spades.
Pretty sure Petracca, Oliver, Brayshaw, Jackson are all top 5 picks.
Salem was top 10 & Viney FS. Probably missing a couple of others but that’s a pretty handy treasure chest for basically being incompetent.
But they certainly got it all going now and I do feel good for their supporters.

Even worse, all are top 3.

 

[year of the cat]

Even worse, all are top 3.

Certainly have been gifted an enormous amount of talent. You could argue there was a certain inevitability that they would win one with this group at some stage. If they keep their motivation up, they could win a couple more with this group.

Makes you also think that GC, if they can finally build a strong culture and retain their guns, could be a force in 4-5 years when the likes of Rowell, Anderson etc reach maturity.

I don’t think you necessarily need to completely bottom out to be able to be a legitimate flag threat. But you do probably need to have a period of penance in the bottom 6 for 2-3 years to enable you to top up with at least a group of 3-4 guns to build a team around.

 

[Two Planks]

Even worse, all are top 3.

Oliver wasn't, he was 4, but close enough

 

[Pure_Ownage]

Do we expect Neale will be ready for a few senior games in 2022? Keen to get a look at him.

Considering his frame and limited vfl this year i think he needsmore time which is why we need another ruck option sowe dont have to expose him too early .

 

[Pure_Ownage]

Yeh and if that’s the option it’s pretty obvious we keep Clark

I hope so but not sure if theclub thinks the same.

 

[year of the cat]

If we insist on a first rounder id say thats the likely outcome as i doubt freo will do it-revisit in 12 months in that case.

I reckon if you are prepared to offer the kid a 4 year deal, you’d better be prepared to cough up a first round pick. Particularly, being in contract. Sounds like it’s not the fait accompli that Freo fans first thought.

 

[Pure_Ownage]

Could Freo swap 8 and 27 with Brisbane for 14 and 18 and then on trade 18 to Geelong for Clark.

Brisbane would need to add in more like a R3 as 8 is worth the 2 teens picks.
I doubt freo will split 6 or 8 for us i think they only offer 27.

 

[Pure_Ownage]

I reckon if you are prepared to offer the kid a 4 year deal, you’d better be prepared to cough up a first round pick. Particularly, being in contract. Sounds like it’s not the fait accompli that Freo fans first thought.

Maybe but i would be staggered if they traded a R1 rather than wait 12 months to get him cheaper. They arent winning the flag next year.

 

[year of the cat]

Brisbane would need to add in more like a R3 as 8 is worth the 2 teens picks.
I doubt freo will split 6 or 8 for us i think they only offer 27.

And we can just say no. I can’t see it ending there. Reckon the split of the single pick will have to be visited for them to facilitate a trade.

 

[year of the cat]

Maybe but i would be staggered if they traded a R1 rather than wait 12 months to get him cheaper. They arent winning the flag next year.

There is that. But then you also risk him being played more next year, and changing his mind.

 

[Strange Cat]

Maybe but i would be staggered if they traded a R1 rather than wait 12 months to get him cheaper. They arent winning the flag next year.

Unless they throw in a player ….say Fyfe

 

[Two Planks]

Brisbane would need to add in more like a R3 as 8 is worth the 2 teens picks.
I doubt freo will split 6 or 8 for us i think they only offer 27.

I agree

What about 27 and fr2 for Clark and 52

 

[Cat Addict]

Brisbane would need to add in more like a R3 as 8 is worth the 2 teens picks.
I doubt freo will split 6 or 8 for us i think they only offer 27.

Based on the conversion of 8 = 14 and 18. End of Round 1 = pick 27 and next years R2.

 

[Mad_Hatter]

Oliver wasn't, he was 4, but close enough

Ah, thought he went at 3.

 

[Pure_Ownage]

There is that. But then you also risk him being played more next year, and changing his mind.

Thats true and thats the equation freo have to weigh up.

 

[Pure_Ownage]

I agree

What about 27 and fr2 for Clark and 52

I think thats more likely than them offering 8 or 18 as part of a trade but im still not sure they will offer that much.

 

[catempire]

Freo will find a pick in the 20s and we will take it.

 

[cats_09]

I’ve read a few comments on here about Clark’s poor attitude, where is it from? Please don’t tell me it’s BF scuttlebutt.

It's from multiple sources - if anything I've read more stuff about it outside of BF than what's said here, and been reading things for a good 18 months

Even something as simple as after the season shutdown last year, Clark returned in not the expected shape. After that he spoke about struggling with sticking to the clubs fitness program during the shutdown, especially as he was the only "professional athlete" when he was back home

We saw what he had to offer in his first season, would be good to see how he could elevate his game if he's able to 'flick the switch'/find the dedication needed to step up at this level

 

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The rise of Grovedale goalkicking sensation Tom Gillett
Tom Gillett has just turned 18 and is the youngest winner of the GFL goalkicking award. Here’s his story on how the son of an “aquatic engineer” became the most talked about player in local football this year.

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Grovedale teenager Tom Gillett. Picture: Alan Barber

Tom Gillett, the GFL leading goalkicker at 17, is just a knockabout teenager that loves having a kick with his mates at Grovedale.
The mulletted Gillett dazzled local football watchers this year with his high marks and long goals to quickly become a fan favourite at Burdoo Reserve.
The Year 12 Grovedale College student announced himself with four goals on debut against Bell Park in a famous win in Daniel Fraser’s first game as coach.


Then there was the third quarter against St Joseph’s in round 6.
“That St Joeys third quarter when he kicked three or four, that’s when I knew we had something absolutely special on our hands,” Fraser said.
Grovedale trailed by seven points at halftime.
By three-quarter time, the Tigers led by 39 points.
Gillett, who turned 18 in late August, had kicked four for the term and returned seven for the match.
“That was when he took the big mark across the pack and he took the mark where the ball had gone past his head and he dragged it back in front of him with one hand,” Fraser said.
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Father, Shane, was in tears after the game.
“I was that impressed and that chuffed the way Tom played but the way the team went about it and the way ‘Frase’ coaches,” Shane said.
“That’s why it just got me and it was a very, very proud moment.”
Gillett would kick 42 for the year in nine games to be the youngest league goalkicking winner in the competition’s history.
But through the extra attention, flack from his schoolmates and splashes in the press, he has taken the hype in his stride.
Shane has been at every game this year when Covid settings have allowed.

Tom and Shane Gillett. Picture: Alan Barber
He said his son, unsurprisingly crowned the Rookie of the Year, has remained himself.
“Tom’s always been a very laid back person and I knew he wouldn’t get above himself,” he said.
“Nothing goes to his head.
“I’m very proud of him.”
Fraser wanted to give Gillett a “taste of senior footy” this year but a practice match against Point Cook provided him with an exciting insight into the future.
“I think he kicked 3.7, took about 10 or 11 marks and I think he might have put two out of bounds on the full,” Fraser said.
“He’s blown away our coaching staff … and the Geelong community with his performances this year.
“He’s probably surprised himself, too, I reckon.”
Gillett makes an interesting confession when he coughs up that he “honestly did not enjoy playing footy before this season”.
He played juniors with Modewarre but was a big tennis fan.
“Even watching the AFL and stuff, I knew no one,” he said.
“I go for Hawthorn, or I did back then, and I couldn’t tell you who the skipper was or anything.”
It wasn’t until he moved into town for school midway through 2017 that he joined the Tigers.

Gillett puts through another goal. Picture: Mark Wilson
“I did a pre-season at Falcons when I was 16, I reckon,” Gillett said.
“I dunno, I just don’t think I was that mature back then — I wasn’t ready for everything.
“I guess now, I just love it. I can’t wait. I’d come down every Saturday morning, come and watch my mates play 19s.
“I’ll stay here all day and leave at 6pm, 7.30pm.”
Gillett loves Grovedale.
It’s why he was unsure about joining Geelong Falcons midway through the year when coach Paul Corrigan invited him down for a run.
“The decision, I’ll be honest, I couldn’t sleep at night a few times,” he said.
“If I had have said Grovey, I didn’t want to disappoint ‘Corra’ and if I had have said Grovey, I didn’t want other people to think, ‘Oh, he doesn’t want to do anything with his footy’. I do.”
Gillett now wants to take his footy further.
“I’d love to test my abilities in higher standards, if those opportunities came,” he said.
“If it doesn’t come, I’m more than happy playing at Grovey. I’m loving my footy here but otherwise, I’ve got no doubt I’d try my absolute hardest anywhere else.”
Co-president Michael Schulze said Gillett has “huge upside”.
“Big strong lad,” Schulze said.
“I’ve seen him come up for a number of years now and he’s always been a big boy in junior footy but to do that in senior footy has been mind-blowing.
“It was good to watch.”
Gillett is one of a number of exciting talents coming through at Grovedale.
The Tigers had eight players on the Falcons’ books at the start of the year.
Schulze labelled the up-and-comers as “the best group I’ve seen in the whole time I’ve been around”.

Tom Gillett in a game with Geelong Falcons. Picture: Getty
“You know the noise when Tom starts clunking the marks and kicking the goals,” Schulze said.
“It’s been pretty exciting.
“He’s got a few back to the footy, I reckon.
“It’s made a good atmosphere around the joint.”
So where does Gillett’s talent come from?
Shane played reserves at Grovedale and enjoyed “getting on the beers and watching the seniors”.
“I was definitely no where near as good as Tom,” he said.
“The talent’s just really hard work.”
Shane works with Narellan Pools these days but calls himself an “aquatic engineer”.
“If you can put in aquatic engineer because I’m pushing for that,” he said.
“Well that means I’m an aquatic engineer as well,” Tom shot back.
“You’re a junior aquatic engineer because he’s working with me a bit,” Shane replied.
Shane quipped Tom is “no doctor”.
“Let’s hope he can play footy,” he said.
The knockabout teenager sure can.

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