Rumour GFC 2024 Player Trading, Drafting FA, Rumours and Wish lists Pt 1

[#6 Thorp #7 Selwood LOL]

That is what I heard a few weeks ago.

I heard the same ~6 months ago.

 

[Hinkley29]

I get that but its marginal gains.

Dropping an afl standard fwd to get zurhaar in is only a marginal gain when we kick good scores anyway.

Whereas getting a good mid in and dropping one of our D grade mids for it is a bigger gain.

Given zurhaar would be expensive i dont see the value.

This is where we will have to agree to disagree.

I see zurhaar as something completely different to what we have in our team now. I don’t see him as purely a forward, and I think the gains he would bring would be more than marginal.

I see him as having the potential to play the de Goey role. I may be smoking some good stuff but that is what I see.

He will be expensive, but not as expensive as a good mid.

If we have to give up a bunch of draft capital and lay out a long term deal for a Bailey smith type then no thanks - give me zurhaar at his cost every time.

Someone like LDU would be a different story, he is a guy I would happily pay up for and if he was a possibility for us I would say go hard for him.

Basically what I am saying is if we are going to pay the high price it will cost for a high level mid, then they need to be a high probability play, someone who does not have red flags and is close to a sure thing.

 

[cats_09]

 

[foxdog50]

Has any club been linked to Zurhaar?

 

[Interdimensional Bigfoot]

I'd take Oliver over Smith but question he's leadership with our young group.

 

[Lana]

This is where we will have to agree to disagree.

I see zurhaar as something completely different to what we have in our team now. I don’t see him as purely a forward, and I think the gains he would bring would be more than marginal.

I see him as having the potential to play the de Goey role. I may be smoking some good stuff but that is what I see.

He will be expensive, but not as expensive as a good mid.

If we have to give up a bunch of draft capital and lay out a long term deal for a Bailey smith type then no thanks - give me zurhaar at his cost every time.

Someone like LDU would be a different story, he is a guy I would happily pay up for and if he was a possibility for us I would say go hard for him.

Basically what I am saying is if we are going to pay the high price it will cost for a high level mid, then they need to be a high probability play, someone who does not have red flags and is close to a sure thing.

If he was half a chance to play that style of role he'd be doing it already. Clubs do what ever they can to buff up their inside mid rotations. They'll cannibalise every part of the ground to do so.

 

[cats_09]

Has any club been linked to Zurhaar?

Thinking it's unlikely he'll be calling Port home next season...


With Zurhaar unsigned, there's been a bit of talk over recent months about his comments & actions following JHF decision to ask for & ultimately be traded after his first year - there was a few potshots & unnecessary comments around loyalty, not sticking it out, etc directed at the youngster

So some have questioned over recent times if it would be now be hypocritical for Zurhaar as a FA to accept an offer to jump ship to a new club


Genuinely though, I haven't heard him linked to any club

 

[CatToTheFuture]

Some were against the idea when I floated it of chasing 2025 free agent Darcy Fogharty but he does something that our keys currently can't. Take good contested marks.

 

[Pure_Ownage]

Some were against the idea when I floated it of chasing 2025 free agent Darcy Fogharty but he does something that our keys currently can't. Take good contested marks.

Fogarty wont leave SA though.

 

[CatToTheFuture]

Fogarty wont leave SA though.

I wouldn't rule it out. He's not from Adelaide

 

[cats_09]

I wouldn't rule it out. He's not from Adelaide

What's his views on Coopers, Farmers Union, FruChocs & pie floaters?

 

[CatToTheFuture]

What's his views on Coopers, Farmers Union, FruChocs & pie floaters?

I assume that being under the age of 50 he's never had a pie floater. I'll have to ask him about the rest when I next see him at the local

 

[Pure_Ownage]

I wouldn't rule it out. He's not from Adelaide

Hes not but he seems very settled there and they will overpay to keep him.

 

[foxdog50]

What's his views on Coopers, Farmers Union, FruChocs & pie floaters?

Barracked for Geelong when he was younger. So as Cats to the future says... " Bring the boy home"

 

[year of the cat]

At least one (maybe both if we can facilitate trades) for Oliver and Smith will be Cats next year. Lock it in.

 

[moond0g]

I'd take Oliver over Smith but question he's leadership with our young group.

I’d probably take smith purely because of Oliver’s huge contract

 

[CatToTheFuture]

Hes not but he seems very settled there and they will overpay to keep him.

Lots seem pretty settled and still move

 

[fpm84]

At his peak Oliver is a club changer but there are significant red flags about his professionalism, off-field behaviour and the $1m a year contract we'd have to take on.

Smith is a far more suitable and realistic prospect for us IMO, he's less than two years older than Holmes and Bruhn so could spend a decade alongside them in the midfield. When he's been given significant midfield minutes at the Bulldogs he's been one of the best young players in the game, and one thing we can give him from day one is significant midfield minutes. Coming off an ACL and a poor 2023 season, his trade value should be at an all time low. Would trade our first rounder or F1 in a heartbeat.

 

[BORIS332]

At his peak Oliver is a club changer but there are significant red flags about his professionalism, off-field behaviour and the $1m a year contract we'd have to take on.

Smith is a far more suitable and realistic prospect for us IMO, he's less than two years older than Holmes and Bruhn so could spend a decade alongside them in the midfield. When he's been given significant midfield minutes at the Bulldogs he's been one of the best young players in the game, and one thing we can give him from day one is significant midfield minutes. Coming off an ACL and a poor 2023 season, his trade value should be at an all time low. Would trade our first rounder or F1 in a heartbeat.

Oliver's big contract means we will probably get him cheap in a trade.

 

[Kobe Gryant]

At least one (maybe both if we can facilitate trades) for Oliver and Smith will be Cats next year. Lock it in.

Heard something through the grapevine?

 

[Kobe Gryant]

At his peak Oliver is a club changer but there are significant red flags about his professionalism, off-field behaviour and the $1m a year contract we'd have to take on.

Smith is a far more suitable and realistic prospect for us IMO, he's less than two years older than Holmes and Bruhn so could spend a decade alongside them in the midfield. When he's been given significant midfield minutes at the Bulldogs he's been one of the best young players in the game, and one thing we can give him from day one is significant midfield minutes. Coming off an ACL and a poor 2023 season, his trade value should be at an all time low. Would trade our first rounder or F1 in a heartbeat.

There's some red flags with both, that's absolutely true.

With that being said, if we could get both of them right, we'd become a top 5 midfield virtually overnight.

It's a big if, but Holmes, Oliver, & Smith would be one of the best trios going around, and that's without accounting for Bruhn, Dempsey, or Clark, who hopefully make the leap next year.

 

[dangerwood]

At least one (maybe both if we can facilitate trades) for Oliver and Smith will be Cats next year. Lock it in.

If this happens then we will be right back at the top contending for the next few years. Whilst we have Cameron forward and Stewart down back, a couple of genuine mids makes our team one of the best getting around. Even with Hawkins ageing, I think our forward line is elite.

 

[CatToTheFuture]

Oliver's big contract means we will probably get him cheap in a trade.

Maaaaybe, but I doubt that's a guarantee. Plus, a cheap cost in picks is good for year 1 or 2. In year 4 of that contract you'll have forgotten that and just be sitting there burning money

 

[Hamingja]

Oliver's big contract means we will probably get him cheap in a trade.

And Smith will want a 5 year deal at close to Oliver money anyway.

Hard to know how cooked Oliver actually is off field. I would suggest Shannon Byrnes, having worked at the Dees for quite a while, would still have good contacts to know.

 

[sexyhunk]

with us routingely getting smashed center square and stoppages, do we think we should ask the question on sean darcy

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Sean Darcy

Age

27

Ht

203cm

Wt

111kg

Pos.

Ruck

Career

Season

Last 5

D

10.1

3star

K

3.4

1star

HB

6.6

4star

CL

2.4

4star

HO

28.8

5star

D

6.8

1star

K

2.0

1star

HB

4.8

3star

CL

1.8

4star

HO

20.3

5star

D

11.4

3star

K

4.6

2star

HB

6.8

5star

CL

2.6

5star

HO

32.0

5star

again? former falcon, only 25, workhorse in the ruck all day, can conway do 20% ruck, 80% forward in the future?