Rumour GFC 2024 Player Trading, Drafting FA, Rumours and Wish lists Pt 1

[foxdog50]

I think Maxs' worth is top ten.

Top 5 maybe a bit of a stretch.

Geee id hope we get a top 10 pick for Holmes..
If Holmes has a season like he did last year I reckon we be lucky to get a pick between 15-20....
But hey.. I hope I'm wrong and if he left we get a very high pick... I just not sure if his done enough so far...

 

[Vivy]

I can see a world where Stengle goes to another club as an UFA and we get end of first round compensation, package that with our own 1st round pick for a big fish.

At the moment we have 1 too many players for the smaller roles in my opinion.

 

[BORIS332]

Geee id hope we get a top 10 pick for Holmes..
If Holmes has a season like he did last year I reckon we be lucky to get a pick between 15-20....
But hey.. I hope I'm wrong and if he left we get a very high pick... I just not sure if his done enough so far...

This echo chamber is getting ridiculous. He averaged 19 disposals, 3 clearances, 4 inside 50s as a 20-year-old, and he's just ticked over 50 games.

He had a much better year compared to other mids in his draft - Will Phillips (pick 3), Braeden Campbell (5), Elijah Hollands (7), Archie Perkins (9), Luke Pedlar (11), Tom Powell (13).

 

[BORIS332]

I can see a world where Stengle goes to another club as an UFA and we get end of first round compensation, package that with our own 1st round pick for a big fish.

At the moment we have 1 too many players for the smaller roles in my opinion.

It could happen, for sure. The salary bands are:



Stengle will be 26 at the end of the year so that's automatically 10 points, then it just depends on the salary he's offered, with the points allocated as follows:



So he'd need to be offered $500k+ for us to receive end of 1st round compo.

 

[FootyLad0]

It could happen, for sure. The salary bands are:

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Stengle will be 26 at the end of the year so that's automatically 10 points, then it just depends on the salary he's offered, with the points allocated as follows:

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So he'd need to be offered $500k+ for us to receive end of 1st round compo.

If he's leaving, he's easily getting north of 500k.
AA player small forward who is proven he can stay on the right path and contribute to winning.
If he goes he goes, I can work with Mannagh being his replacement.

 

[Jemaine]

It could happen, for sure. The salary bands are:

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Stengle will be 26 at the end of the year so that's automatically 10 points, then it just depends on the salary he's offered, with the points allocated as follows:

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So he'd need to be offered $500k+ for us to receive end of 1st round compo.

I've never seen this explained so simply before, makes total sense. Thanks mate.

 

[Kobe Gryant]

If he's leaving, he's easily getting north of 500k.
AA player small forward who is proven he can stay on the right path and contribute to winning.
If he goes he goes, I can work with Mannagh being his replacement.

It depends on his 2024.

If he's an AA again, it would suck to lose him, but similar to Holmes, we don't yet know what that looks like.

Losing Stengle & Holmes looks awful on paper, but losing them and getting the capital to acquire Smith & JUH or another elite name makes it look okay.

Even if we didn't do that, 3 first round picks over 2 years would be nice too, but I don't know if that's what we need right now.

3 or 4 years ago, sure...but we've got a pretty good group of kids now, we need stars approaching their prime (Like Stengle & Holmes).

It's good kids, good older players, and virtually nothing in-between. Losing those guys and gaining nothing experience wise doesn't help that.

 

[foxdog50]

This echo chamber is getting ridiculous. He averaged 19 disposals, 3 clearances, 4 inside 50s as a 20-year-old, and he's just ticked over 50 games.

He had a much better year compared to other mids in his draft - Will Phillips (pick 3), Braeden Campbell (5), Elijah Hollands (7), Archie Perkins (9), Luke Pedlar (11), Tom Powell (13).

Look thats just my opinion... like I said i hope we get a better draft pick id be happy...

 

[BORIS332]

It depends on his 2024.

If he's an AA again, it would suck to lose him, but similar to Holmes, we don't yet know what that looks like.

Losing Stengle & Holmes looks awful on paper, but losing them and getting the capital to acquire Smith & JUH or another elite name makes it look okay.

Even if we didn't do that, 3 first round picks over 3 years would be nice too, but I don't know if that's what we need right now.

3 or 4 years ago, sure...but we've got a pretty good group of kids now, we need stars approaching their prime (Like Stengle & Holmes).

It's good kids, good older players, and virtually nothing in-between. Losing those guys and gaining nothing experience wise doesn't help that.

I'd rather Stengle than Smith, personally. Stengle's dip in form last year was a result of work further up the field. There's plenty of decent MIDs around, there's not as many 50-goal forwards.

 

[D BRIDGE]

Stengle's dip in form last year was a result of work further up the field. There's plenty of decent MIDs around, there's not as many 50-goal forwards.

I remember commenting on here during last years preseason that Stengle was starting to look like a mini Gaz Jr and nobody could lay a glove on him.

But then he got absolutely poleaxed in R1 with that Jeremy Howe hit… and then he was tackled and broke his wrist mid way through the year.

He just couldn’t get going at all after that hit and rarely looked like his 2022 self imo.

Almost the same thing with SDK… the kid was smashed around all over the place from the get go and never got back to his best.

Fingers crossed after some time off and a good preseason they both can find their best form.

 

[Kobe Gryant]

I'd rather Stengle than Smith, personally. Stengle's dip in form last year was a result of work further up the field. There's plenty of decent MIDs around, there's not as many 50-goal forwards.

Tend to agree, but I guess it depends on need in that particular hypothetical.

For instance, if Mannagh becomes best 22, we've already got Close & Miers, and Henry keeps improving (or even just holds ground) that's one of the best small/medium fleets in the game.

Dempsey I reckon will end up being a similar player too, but with some stints up the ground.

In this hypothetical, our midfield without Holmes would look pretty bleak though.

If in 8 months time it is:

Out: Danger, Holmes, Duncan, maybe even Blitz...

Then I'd be more inclined to be getting midfielders in, and I'm somebody who rates Clark, Knevitt, & Bruhn highly, but that's not nearly enough. They'll still basically be kids even with that time gap.

If we're losing Holmes and even Stengle, we're going to need a somewhat ready made gun, and Smith or someone similar is what we need over another first/second round mid.

 

[cats_09]

I can see a world where Stengle goes to another club as an UFA and we get end of first round compensation, package that with our own 1st round pick for a big fish.

At the moment we have 1 too many players for the smaller roles in my opinion.

It could happen, for sure. The salary bands are:

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Stengle will be 26 at the end of the year so that's automatically 10 points, then it just depends on the salary he's offered, with the points allocated as follows:

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So he'd need to be offered $500k+ for us to receive end of 1st round compo.

IF Stengle moves to another club via free agency, we'll get zero compensation

Tyson is a delisted free agent for the remainder of his AFL career and there's no compensation to clubs for losing a DFA - so age, salary bands, allocation of points etc, won't have any relevance

 

[D BRIDGE]

Taryn Thomas apparently looking like being handed massive ban.

Still find it almost impossible to believe some people in here were legit happy to give up our 1st rounder for him last year.

It would be like playing with fire.

 

[Kobe Gryant]

Taryn Thomas apparently looking like being handed massive ban.

Still find it almost impossible to believe some people in here were legit happy to give up our 1st rounder for him last year.

It would be like playing with fire.

Might end up being a blessing in disguise for him. Huge wake-up call, and if he doesn't mature out of this, he probably never will.

Could still see us going after him though. Reasonable chance he's delisted or at least traded for peanuts.

Much more Stengle like in that regard. Give him a 1 year deal, if it doesn't work and he's still a dickhead, just get rid of him.

 

[D BRIDGE]

Might end up being a blessing in disguise for him. Huge wake-up call, and if he doesn't mature out of this, he probably never will.

Could still see us going after him though. Reasonable chance he's delisted or at least traded for peanuts.

Much more Stengle like in that regard. Give him a 1 year deal, if it doesn't work and he's still a dickhead, just get rid of him

Stengle is a ok kid… I actually can’t even fully remember what he done but yeah he made some errors and seems to have turned it around.

I do not think TT is an ok kid.

Seems a bad egg to me.

In saying that… yep on the cheap you’d look into him.

Giving up a top 10 pick would be wild though.

Couldn’t wrap my head around people actually being ok in doing so.

 

[CatToTheFuture]

Well I'm guessing this mystery mid will be a delisted free agent

North Melbourne’s Tarryn Thomas set to be handed monster ban after AFL probe into alleged behaviour

Troubled Roo set to be handed MONSTER ban after AFL probe into alleged behaviour

www.foxsports.com.au

 

[CatToTheFuture]

Taryn Thomas apparently looking like being handed massive ban.

Still find it almost impossible to believe some people in here were legit happy to give up our 1st rounder for him last year.

It would be like playing with fire.

Look, this is a new allegation on new info. In fairness kid can play.

Also in fairness, kids can play somewhere that's not here thanks

 

[Cataholic]

Look, this is a new allegation on new info. In fairness kid can play.

Also in fairness, kids can play somewhere that's not here thanks

Yeah, kid can play, but has a pattern of behaviour too.

 

[dangerwood]

Geelong was never looking at Thomas and I don't think we ever would. Whilst stengle had some hiccups (drugs and alcohol) they don't necessarily make you a bad person and are more reflective of your own troubles/ challenges.

I think it's more palatable for everyone to accept some drug offending as opposed to repeated abusive behaviour. I'm not sure anyone would consider Thomas now, he would need to something dramatic to change his perception.

 

[Kobe Gryant]

Geelong was never looking at Thomas and I don't think we ever would. Whilst stengle had some hiccups (drugs and alcohol) they don't necessarily make you a bad person and are more reflective of your own troubles/ challenges.

I think it's more palatable for everyone to accept some drug offending as opposed to repeated abusive behaviour. I'm not sure anyone would consider Thomas now, he would need to something dramatic to change his perception.

You're severely overestimating the morality of professional sporting clubs.

As sad as it may be, it's just a business to a lot of these guys at board level, and when that business succeeds through winning games, they'll overlook a lot of character flaws to get there.

They see/hear these troubles and many of them respond with "Yeah...but the boy can play", and back themselves in to either get him right, or keep as much of it in under the carpet as they can.

See Eddie McGuire a dozen or so times, and he's hardly the only one, he's just been the most public.

 

[CatToTheFuture]

Yeah, kid can play, but has a pattern of behaviour too.

Like I said, kid can play somewhere else

 

[bombersboy]

I'd rather Stengle than Smith, personally. Stengle's dip in form last year was a result of work further up the field. There's plenty of decent MIDs around, there's not as many 50-goal forwards.

Agreed. Stengle may not get as much of the ball but is an elite user of the ball. Smith is not. Stengle in 2022 form is many times more valuable.

 

[Phipppppa]

I can see a world where Stengle goes to another club as an UFA and we get end of first round compensation, package that with our own 1st round pick for a big fish.

At the moment we have 1 too many players for the smaller roles in my opinion.

I’m glad we are in this world though

Without Stengle we don’t win that flag, huge in 2022.

 

[4quarter_cat]

You're severely overestimating the morality of professional sporting clubs.

As sad as it may be, it's just a business to a lot of these guys at board level, and when that business succeeds through winning games, they'll overlook a lot of character flaws to get there.

They see/hear these troubles and many of them respond with "Yeah...but the boy can play", and back themselves in to either get him right, or keep as much of it in under the carpet as they can.

See Eddie McGuire a dozen or so times, and he's hardly the only one, he's just been the most public.

Whilst I broadly agree with this sentiment, that shit doesn't fly in 2024 and the clubs with their shit together know it. The kid might be good but there is usually another way of skinning the cat if you don't want that shit at your footy club.

 

[Footy Smarts]

Geelong was never looking at Thomas and I don't think we ever would. Whilst stengle had some hiccups (drugs and alcohol) they don't necessarily make you a bad person and are more reflective of your own troubles/ challenges.

I think it's more palatable for everyone to accept some drug offending as opposed to repeated abusive behaviour. I'm not sure anyone would consider Thomas now, he would need to something dramatic to change his perception.

I think the main difference was cost and that Stengle had shown signs of working hard and trying to turn it around when he went back to the SANFL.

I can't see us throwing TT a lifeline unless he does something similar and knuckles down for a little while at the lower level. The idea we would offer up a first rounder when we wouldn't even do that for Ollie Henry is laughable.