Preview Grading our list

[THATSGOLD]

Taylor Adams B
James Aish D
Jarryd Blair D
Tim Broomhead D
Callum Brown C
Mason Cox C
Jack Crisp C+
Ben Crocker E
Josh Daicos D+
Jordan De Goey B
Lynden Dunn C
Jamie Elliott A+
Alex Fasolo C+
Tyson Goldsack B
Levi Greenwood C
Brodie Grundy A
Will Hoskin-Elliott B+
Jeremy Howe A
Kayle Kirby D
Tom Langdon C+
Max Lynch (unrated)
Brayden Maynard C+
Chris Mayne E
Sam McLarty (unrated)
Darcy Moore B
Adam Oxley E
Scott Pendlebury A
Tom Phillips C
Jackson Ramsay D
Ben Reid B
Matthew Scharenberg C
Steele Sidebottom A
Brayden Sier (unrated)
Ben Sinclair (unrated)
Josh Smith C
Josh Thomas C
Adam Treloar A+
Travis Varcoe C+
Daniel Wells A
Rupert Wills D

Graded the players A+ to E based on 2017 senior games and going into 2018. Thoughts? Do yours if you want.

 

[WalterBlaknWhte]

For old times' sake, what do you score Schade for 2017?

 

[BringouttheGimp]

I'm not going to sit here and grade our list.. I think it's a premiership list if we believe in ourselves.. there's deficiencies in every list and if Richmond can win the flag with their list.. I don't see why we can't either.

Get the bloody balance right and we can do it.

 

[Scodog10]

I'm not going to sit here and grade our list.. I think it's a premiership list if we believe in ourselves.. there's deficiencies in every list and if Richmond can win the flag with their list.. I don't see why we can't either.

Get the bloody balance right and we can do it.

These ratings have never counted for much, IMO. Do the same for Richmond 12 months ago and it would have yielded similar results with a lot of C and D grade “types”.

 

[BringouttheGimp]

These ratings have never counted for much, IMO. Do the same for Richmond 12 months ago and it would have yielded similar results with a lot of C and D grade “types”.

I honestly believe we can do it.. imagine all our players with a stealy resolve. We can get away with Moore Reid Cox up front.. not the greatest line up.. but belief goes a long way. Our defence was ok this yr.. didn't concede much.. our midfield is key.. if they gel.. watch out.. but they haven't as yet. Have the ability to maul the opposition though.

 

[BringouttheGimp]

These ratings have never counted for much, IMO. Do the same for Richmond 12 months ago and it would have yielded similar results with a lot of C and D grade “types”.

Make top 4 and it's likely we'll be playing an interstate side at the G if we make the GF. Recent times have proven with Richmond and the dogs.. making the GF agst an interstate side after playing so many games there is a really big advantage.

Make the 4.. and let them come to us after playing half our games at the G. No chance!

 

[Scodog10]

I honestly believe we can do it.. imagine all our players with a stealy resolve. We can get away with Moore Reid Cox up front.. not the greatest line up.. but belief goes a long way. Our defence was ok this yr.. didn't concede much.. our midfield is key.. if they gel.. watch out.. but they haven't as yet. Have the ability to maul the opposition though.

I don’t think we’re a realistic shot at a premiership, but I won’t put a ceiling on what we can do in 2018. Although I do think we need to put a floor on performance. Enough of the pussyfooting around it’s time to get shit done!

 

[BringouttheGimp]

I don’t think we’re a realistic shot at a premiership, but I won’t put a ceiling on what we can do in 2018. Although I do think we need to put a floor on performance. Enough of the pussyfooting around it’s time to get shit done!

I think we can do it.. I just don't think they know how to get it right. That 'we are not going to f lose this game no matter what' attitude.. we simply don't have it. Richmond did with the shit they had running around.

 

[Gone Critical]

Taylor Adams B
James Aish D
Jarryd Blair D
Tim Broomhead D
Callum Brown C
Mason Cox C
Jack Crisp C+
Ben Crocker E
Josh Daicos D+
Jordan De Goey B
Lynden Dunn C
Jamie Elliott A+
Alex Fasolo C+
Tyson Goldsack B
Levi Greenwood C
Brodie Grundy A
Will Hoskin-Elliott B+
Jeremy Howe A
Kayle Kirby D
Tom Langdon C+
Max Lynch (unrated)
Brayden Maynard C+
Chris Mayne E
Sam McLarty (unrated)
Darcy Moore B
Adam Oxley E
Scott Pendlebury A
Tom Phillips C
Jackson Ramsay D
Ben Reid B
Matthew Scharenberg C
Steele Sidebottom A
Brayden Sier (unrated)
Ben Sinclair (unrated)
Josh Smith C
Josh Thomas C
Adam Treloar A+
Travis Varcoe C+
Daniel Wells A
Rupert Wills D

Graded the players A+ to E based on 2017 senior games and going into 2018. Thoughts? Do yours if you want.

There are limitations in these sort of ratings as Sco mentioned. Considering that my feel for our list is we lack top end talent.

If you want to use the A+ as a ranking then I would say we don't have one. That would be someone who is in the best few in their position. We really only have 1 player who could be considered for that level, Pendles, and he has dropped off from being that high

I would say we have 2 A grade players in Pendles and Treloar. We have some who have reached that level in the past in Reid and Wells and we have a few that look to have the potential to perhaps reach that in the seasons ahead. Elliott, Grundy, Moore, De Goey. A major plank in our development is to find more AGrade talent either by improving the players I just mentioned and hopefully by snagging someone at pick 6. Coffield I hope.

 

[Collingwoodity]

Taylor Adams B
James Aish D
Jarryd Blair D
Tim Broomhead C
Callum Brown C
Mason Cox C
Jack Crisp C+
Ben Crocker D
Josh Daicos C
Jordan De Goey B
Lynden Dunn B+
Jamie Elliott A+
Alex Fasolo C+
Tyson Goldsack B+
Levi Greenwood C
Brodie Grundy A
Will Hoskin-Elliott B+
Jeremy Howe A
Kayle Kirby D
Tom Langdon C
Max Lynch (unrated)
Brayden Maynard B
Chris Mayne D
Sam McLarty (unrated)
Darcy Moore B
Adam Oxley D
Scott Pendlebury A
Tom Phillips C
Jackson Ramsay D
Ben Reid B
Matthew Scharenberg B-
Steele Sidebottom A
Brayden Sier (unrated)
Ben Sinclair (unrated)
Josh Smith C
Josh Thomas B-
Adam Treloar A
Travis Varcoe B
Daniel Wells B+
Rupert Wills (unrated)

 

[barrackers]

All Australian expected

Nil​

Contending for All Australian

Adam Treloar
Brodie Grundy
Jeremy Howe​

All Aust 40-man squad expected

Scott Pendlebury​

Contending for All Aust 40-man squad

Taylor Adams​

Copeland top 10 expected

Jack Crisp
Jamie Elliott
Will Hoskin-Elliott
Steele Sidebottom
Brayden Maynard
Daniel Wells (injuries permitting)
​

Contending for Copeland top 10

Jordan De Goey
Alex Fasolo
Darcy Moore​

Best 22

Lynden Dunn
Tyson Goldsack
Levi Greenwood
Ben Reid
Travis Varcoe
​

Contending for best 22

Tom Langdon
Tom Phillips
Matthew Scharenberg
Josh Thomas
Ben Sinclair (pending injury / retirement)​

Break out year / contending for best 22

Callum Brown
Mason Cox
Josh Daicos
Rupert Wills
Sam Murray
​

Veteran / edge of best 22

Jarryd Blair
Chris Mayne​

Playing for their career (should see some AFL games)

James Aish
Tim Broomhead
Ben Crocker
Josh Smith (pending contract extension)
Jackson Ramsay (pending contract extension)
​

VFL expected

Adam Oxley​

VFL expected / development year

Kayle Kirby
Max Lynch
Sam McLarty
Brayden Sier​

 

[loki04]

Taylor Adams B
James Aish D
Jarryd Blair D
Tim Broomhead D
Callum Brown C
Mason Cox C
Jack Crisp C+
Ben Crocker E
Josh Daicos D+
Jordan De Goey B
Lynden Dunn C
Jamie Elliott A+
Alex Fasolo C+
Tyson Goldsack B
Levi Greenwood C
Brodie Grundy A
Will Hoskin-Elliott B+
Jeremy Howe A
Kayle Kirby D
Tom Langdon C+
Max Lynch (unrated)
Brayden Maynard C+
Chris Mayne E
Sam McLarty (unrated)
Darcy Moore B
Adam Oxley E
Scott Pendlebury A
Tom Phillips C
Jackson Ramsay D
Ben Reid B
Matthew Scharenberg C
Steele Sidebottom A
Brayden Sier (unrated)
Ben Sinclair (unrated)
Josh Smith C
Josh Thomas C
Adam Treloar A+
Travis Varcoe C+
Daniel Wells A
Rupert Wills D

Graded the players A+ to E based on 2017 senior games and going into 2018. Thoughts? Do yours if you want.

Treloar A+ ? but Adams only a B? on production? Sure you aren't letting Treloars potential *best* influence too much?

If Adams is a B then Treloar would also be B, on "Production" not a lot separates them except Adams works his arse off defensively and Treloar often can be seen walking and watching. Disposal wise they are about on par with the apple turnovers.

 

[Saintly Viewed]

There are limitations in these sort of ratings as Sco mentioned. Considering that my feel for our list is we lack top end talent.

If you want to use the A+ as a ranking then I would say we don't have one. That would be someone who is in the best few in their position. We really only have 1 player who could be considered for that level, Pendles, and he has dropped off from being that high

I would say we have 2 A grade players in Pendles and Treloar. We have some who have reached that level in the past in Reid and Wells and we have a few that look to have the potential to perhaps reach that in the seasons ahead. Elliott, Grundy, Moore, De Goey. A major plank in our development is to find more AGrade talent either by improving the players I just mentioned and hopefully by snagging someone at pick 6. Coffield I hope.

That is bang on.

Need more top end talent.

I'd all but agree in your ratings bar Scott, who I think is still elite for position. He just does it with a timeless efficiency.

Wells certainly was, but still A grade when playing, in my view. The difference in our play was on another level when he had ball in hand.

But we certainly need better higher end talent.

For what it's worth, I don't think we have a terrible list at all, but we have a very even medium level talent pool.
Lots and lots of medium talent.

But a few I can see go up spots to the better end of grading, Grundy, De Goey (both of them are going to be mega talented for us) Maynard, Moore.

We'll see on the few untried cattle we have too, you never know...

 

[Kirby]

Nice third person referencing going on in the title

 

[Saintly Viewed]

Nice third person referencing going on in the title

Our penguin friend is one of a kind.

It all makes sense when you just put it down to, That's TG

 

[magpies42]

Taylor Adams B
James Aish D
Jarryd Blair D
Tim Broomhead D
Callum Brown C
Mason Cox C
Jack Crisp C+
Ben Crocker E
Josh Daicos D+
Jordan De Goey B
Lynden Dunn C
Jamie Elliott A+
Alex Fasolo C+
Tyson Goldsack B
Levi Greenwood C
Brodie Grundy A
Will Hoskin-Elliott B+
Jeremy Howe A
Kayle Kirby D
Tom Langdon C+
Max Lynch (unrated)
Brayden Maynard C+
Chris Mayne E
Sam McLarty (unrated)
Darcy Moore B
Adam Oxley E
Scott Pendlebury A
Tom Phillips C
Jackson Ramsay D
Ben Reid B
Matthew Scharenberg C
Steele Sidebottom A
Brayden Sier (unrated)
Ben Sinclair (unrated)
Josh Smith C
Josh Thomas C
Adam Treloar A+
Travis Varcoe C+
Daniel Wells A
Rupert Wills D

Graded the players A+ to E based on 2017 senior games and going into 2018. Thoughts? Do yours if you want.

A bit generous with Smith(comparative to others rated C), Phillips(rubbish), WHE(soft, inconsistent), Brown(great prospect but not a C at this stage compared to others), Wells(not enough games).

A bit harsh on Wills(if Wells is an A), Varcoe, Thomas (if smith is a c), If Wells is an A then Sinclair shouldn’t be delisted, Maynard, Broomhead and Aish should both be C’s if Brown is.

 

[legendstatus]

You lost me at TG.....


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[BPikkers]

Moore a ‘B’? Very generous.

 

[nahnah]

I don't think we have an A+ player, Treloar could get there this season and Pendles could be back up there too. Maybe Elliott and Grundy if they've improved over the offseason also.

Taylor Adams B+
James Aish D
Jarryd Blair D
Tim Broomhead D+
Callum Brown D+
Mason Cox C+
Jack Crisp B
Ben Crocker E
Josh Daicos D+
Jordan De Goey B
Lynden Dunn C+
Jamie Elliott A
Alex Fasolo C+
Tyson Goldsack C+
Levi Greenwood D
Brodie Grundy A
Will Hoskin-Elliott B
Jeremy Howe A
Kayle Kirby D
Tom Langdon C+
Max Lynch (unrated)
Brayden Maynard B
Chris Mayne D
Sam McLarty (unrated)
Darcy Moore B
Adam Oxley E
Scott Pendlebury A
Tom Phillips C+
Jackson Ramsay D+
Ben Reid C+
Matthew Scharenberg C+
Steele Sidebottom B+
Brayden Sier (unrated)
Ben Sinclair C+
Josh Smith D
Josh Thomas C
Adam Treloar A
Travis Varcoe C+
Daniel Wells A
Rupert Wills D+

 

[MagpieBat]

For old times' sake, what do you score Schade for 2017?

 

[Tarkyn_24]

Taylor Adams B
James Aish D
Jarryd Blair D
Tim Broomhead D
Callum Brown C
Mason Cox C
Jack Crisp C+
Ben Crocker E
Josh Daicos D+
Jordan De Goey B
Lynden Dunn C
Jamie Elliott A+
Alex Fasolo C+
Tyson Goldsack B
Levi Greenwood C
Brodie Grundy A
Will Hoskin-Elliott B+
Jeremy Howe A
Kayle Kirby D
Tom Langdon C+
Max Lynch (unrated)
Brayden Maynard C+
Chris Mayne E
Sam McLarty (unrated)
Darcy Moore B
Adam Oxley E
Scott Pendlebury A
Tom Phillips C
Jackson Ramsay D
Ben Reid B
Matthew Scharenberg C
Steele Sidebottom A
Brayden Sier (unrated)
Ben Sinclair (unrated)
Josh Smith C
Josh Thomas C
Adam Treloar A+
Travis Varcoe C+
Daniel Wells A
Rupert Wills D

Graded the players A+ to E based on 2017 senior games and going into 2018. Thoughts? Do yours if you want.

Harsh on Wills and Pendles > Treloar, but otherwise agree.

 

[mike123]

Treloar A+ ? but Adams only a B? on production? Sure you aren't letting Treloars potential *best* influence too much?

If Adams is a B then Treloar would also be B, on "Production" not a lot separates them except Adams works his arse off defensively and Treloar often can be seen walking and watching. Disposal wise they are about on par with the apple turnovers.

One has speed the other doesn't

 

[Go Woods]

I'm not going to sit here and grade our list.. I think it's a premiership list if we believe in ourselves.. there's deficiencies in every list and if Richmond can win the flag with their list.. I don't see why we can't either.

Get the bloody balance right and we can do it.

Totally agree, Tigers won flag with one of the most average lists of all time IMO. If they back it up next year then I'll rate them more highly. Anything is possible if we can out **** together next year.

 

[Saintly Viewed]

1. Fasolo C+
2. De Goey B (trending to A grade)
3. Wells A (when playing - sublime talent)
4. Grundy B + (trending to A grade)
5. Elliott B + (full season could be A)
6. Goldsack B - (for effort and team work A)
7. Treloar A
8. Langdon B -
9. Murray (new player, unrated)
10. Pendlebury A +
11. Blair D +
12. Scharenberg C (trending to B+ suspect might go to A-)
13. Adams B +
14. Aish C - (at cross roads)
15. Dunn B -
16. Mayne D
17. Brown D (not really fair to rate such an untried player but D thus far on career.)
18. Varcoe B - (injury stops a higher rating)
19. Greenwood C + (when on Selwood B+)
20. Reid B +
21. Phillips C (trending up)
22. Sidebottom B+ (elite A+ runner)
23. vacant
24. Thomas C
25. Crisp C +
26. Daicos D + (unfair to really rate him this early trending up I'm sure)
27. Kirby D (unfair to rate him this early on)
28. Sinclair C - (injury riddled)
29. Broomhead C -
30. Moore C + (trending up)
31. Ramsay C -
32. Hoskin-Elliot B
33. Wills C - (injury free run could trend up)
34. vacant
35. McLarty unrated as no AFL games)
36. Sier (unrated as no AFL games; needs injury free run)
37. Maynard B - (and trending up)
38. Howe A -
39. Crocker D
40. Smith C -
41. vacant
42. retired number
43. Oxley D
44. vacant
45. Lynch (unrated, no games, rookie)
46. Cox C

I've edited some markings as to good arguments put and I'd concur.

 

[Carringbush2010]

Taylor Adams B
James Aish D
Jarryd Blair D
Tim Broomhead D
Callum Brown C
Mason Cox C
Jack Crisp C+
Ben Crocker E
Josh Daicos D+
Jordan De Goey B
Lynden Dunn C
Jamie Elliott A+
Alex Fasolo C+
Tyson Goldsack B
Levi Greenwood C
Brodie Grundy A
Will Hoskin-Elliott B+
Jeremy Howe A
Kayle Kirby D
Tom Langdon C+
Max Lynch (unrated)
Brayden Maynard C+
Chris Mayne E
Sam McLarty (unrated)
Darcy Moore B
Adam Oxley E
Scott Pendlebury A
Tom Phillips C
Jackson Ramsay D
Ben Reid B
Matthew Scharenberg C
Steele Sidebottom A
Brayden Sier (unrated)
Ben Sinclair (unrated)
Josh Smith C
Josh Thomas C
Adam Treloar A+
Travis Varcoe C+
Daniel Wells A
Rupert Wills D

Graded the players A+ to E based on 2017 senior games and going into 2018. Thoughts? Do yours if you want.

With all due respect I'd rate this list on this year and not 2018 purely because it's difficult to speculate as 2018 has not happened yet. What really needs to rated is the development this year and I'd give that an E+ at best which I expect to dramatically improve given the off field appointments