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I have to say that I'm a big Hasleby fan, have been for a long time. I think its a real shame that injury has robbed him and us of his best.

So, I don't think he should be traded as I consider him very much part of Freo. But at the same time, I don't think he needs a pay rise either, and in fact should probably be offered less than he's on now (assume that's around 400k).

My question is, he does his Monday night segment with Channel 10, and also a bit of stuff with them on the Western Front - things that the wouldn't do if he was at another club presumably. How much does he get paid for doing this? And am I right in assuming its outside TPP?

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The pressure was on... and where was he again?

We are living in the past.

Goodbye McManus and Haselby.

But if we have to have one then I choose McManus. Because he is cheap, and unlike Haselby tries when we aren't winning.
 
if he's still carrying an injury, stop playing him now. You can't make finals, so give him an extended break to get it right.
 
I think it's unfair to say that Hase stops trying when we are not winning.
But also, that is a correct assessment with Macca - they guy will never.... ever give up on his team. Just never. I have never seen him do it. He certainly has heart.
 

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jeffle said:
The pressure was on... and where was he again?

We are living in the past.

Goodbye McManus and Haselby.

But if we have to have one then I choose McManus. Because he is cheap, and unlike Haselby tries when we aren't winning.
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Interesting...you really make some idiotic arguments it must be said...
 
Haze has the "best hands" in the team. he needs his role changed to one where he is chalking up 30 touches with 25 of them handballs out to the likes of Bomber, Byron, Foster, Happy.

We can afford Haze and Josh in the midfield as not to quick midfielders but that is the abbsolute limit.
 
jeffle said:
The pressure was on... and where was he again?
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At the bottom of the packs.

This anti hase brigade seems to have a problem with him for no reason. He leads the clearances and 1st possessions. He is the best in and under midfielder in a team that struggles in that area.. no way would you get rid of him.
 
jeffle said:
The pressure was on... and where was he again?

We are living in the past.

Goodbye McManus and Haselby.

But if we have to have one then I choose McManus. Because he is cheap, and unlike Haselby tries when we aren't winning.
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It's scary to think that people actually do think like this.

Get rid of our best clearance player? How could that possibly ever sound like a good idea? I just don't get it.
 
Belnakor said:
At the bottom of the packs.

This anti hase brigade seems to have a problem with him for no reason. He leads the clearances and 1st possessions. He is the best in and under midfielder in a team that struggles in that area.. no way would you get rid of him.
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I agree Belnakor. Hase and J Carr in the midfield.... no more slow sub 180cm midfielders. Bell should stay permanently at half forward.
 
jeffle said:
The pressure was on... and where was he again?

We are living in the past.

Goodbye McManus and Haselby.

But if we have to have one then I choose McManus. Because he is cheap, and unlike Haselby tries when we aren't winning.
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Haze leads our team in disposals. He is one of the AFL's elite ball winners and we would be far worse off without him. Whereas Macca leads our team in free's against...

I still have no idea where this Haselby doesn't try when we aren't winning myth comes from? In our loss to Sydney he had 10 tackles! you don't get 10 tackles without trying FFS!

Unlike Macca, Haselby actually gets tagged so i'd expect him to have poor week every now and then. He isnt the greatest athlete in the world so its much harder for him to run an opposition tagger off his feet whilst racking up 45 disposals to keep his critics happy. Maybe if guys like Macca were able to get their own ball we wouldn't struggle so much when Haselby has a bad game.
 
jeffle said:
The pressure was on... and where was he again?

We are living in the past.

Goodbye McManus and Haselby.

But if we have to have one then I choose McManus. Because he is cheap, and unlike Haselby tries when we aren't winning.
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:rolleyes:
Can you please find another team to 'support'. The mind just boggles at statements like these.
 

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I'm beside myself when people raise the anti-Hase thing. He does have some down sides. He's generally a defensive liability (but that is true of most top skilled players who frankly aren't out there to tag). He is also a yard off the pace of most players in the middle, but he's not much slower than players like Harvey, Nick Dal, West to name a few and their teams wouldn't dream of dropping them.

If there are two areas that the Dockers suffer with it is clearances and clean disposal under pressure and frankly Hasleby is the best in both regards on our list. He leads clearances and anybody watching games over a period of time witness that he is able to deliver better than most. Lately he has been relatively easily tagged out of games, probably due to fitness more than anything, but don't underestimate his ability. Dropping him is jut plain stupid.
 
Hasleby is a walk-up start at anything better than 75% fitness... and a likely starter at anything better than 50%.

Get Hase 100% and he's first picked every week.
 
Vintage said:
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Can you please find another team to 'support'. The mind just boggles at statements like these.
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No. The fact that the only player you ever comment on is Paul Haselby makes me think you are probably his manager.

I have gone on and on about Haselby. He did come back into form around Derby time. Incidently, the time that he commenced the renegotiation process, and asked for a modest increase on his $450,000 per annum.

I do not question that he was in his prime a brilliant player. But, as I have seen it over the last two seasons he has dropped off.

I was in Melbourne on the weekend and heard Bell give him an absolute ****ing rocket on field. Sure he gets it out of the pack but he can't then keep up with his opponent. Whether he chooses not to chase, or whether he is injured, I am not sure.

In short I will not support another team. This is a forum of opinion. And in my opinion we will get more value for our money elsewhere. Anyone would think you want to be friends with these people. Yes, there is loyalty, but at the end of the day football is business. Business is based on performance.

And, to those of you who speak of the supposed 'clearances' he has been a part of.... Well ****. Have we been watching the same team? We don't clear the ball. So why praise a supposed 'clearance' winner.
 
the reason we don't clear the ball consistantly is BECAUSE haselby is getting 30% of our clearances week in week out. The other guys are the problem, not the hase.
 
Belnakor said:
the reason we don't clear the ball consistantly is BECAUSE haselby is getting 30% of our clearances week in week out. The other guys are the problem, not the hase.
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I don't really mean this ... but one could say the other guys might get more clearances if Hase would get his fat ar*e out of the way. :D
 

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i understand why people want to keep him, but my argument for trading hase is that we need good young midfielders coming up. and there are two very good young east freo midfielders which we could get, if we traded hase, who admittadley is a gun, but is almost 27, injury prone and is demanding a pay increase, and murphy for a nice draft pick, why wouldnt freo look at that? he has been a great servant, and people will say its disloyal, but why should the club suffer because we held onto a player who was a loyal servant, when we could have traded him and got a player that turns out to be a jimmy bartel, or a daniel kerr. the nature of his injury means he will never be what he was four years ago. palmer and masten will be guns for a long time
 
FootyEater said:
he has been a great servant, and people will say its disloyal, but why should the club suffer because we held onto a player who was a loyal servant, when we could have traded him and got a player that turns out to be a jimmy bartel, or a daniel kerr. the nature of his injury means he will never be what he was four years ago. palmer and masten will be guns for a long time
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Was pretty excited when we drafted Walker, Dunn and Schammer too. Some people were super excited about Colin Sylvia. Farren Ray was a #5 draft pick. Doogs and Sampi were sure things. Fiora was prefered to Pavlich.

In the meantime, Hase is our leading posession getter and clearance winner.
 
You guys do realise that there is a system in place? Surely the coaching staff are above the strategy of telling the midfielders "ALRIGHT, NOW ALL OF YOU, JUMP ON THE BALL AT THE SAME TIME, I DON'T WANT TO SEE ANYONE SPREADING OUT AND CREATING OPTIONS FOR THE GUY WHO GETS THE FIRST POSSESSION!"

Christ, think about it for one second.
 
theGav56 said:
Was pretty excited when we drafted Walker, Dunn and Schammer too. Some people were super excited about Colin Sylvia. Farren Ray was a #5 draft pick. Doogs and Sampi were sure things. Fiora was prefered to Pavlich.

In the meantime, Hase is our leading posession getter and clearance winner.
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Schwabby said Sylvia was on their do not draft list.

I've been on the fence on this one. Hase racks up the stats, and he does get first hands on the ball but I'd suggest he is well down the list in terms of being able to hurt the opposition on a consistent basis. He has too many ordinary games.

Where other elite midfielders are good in traffic, Hase gets caught too easily. He is very susceptible to a half decent tag. He was tagged out of the game by a solid but not superstar Lynden Dunn on the weekend. He had all of 2 kicks. If Bell retires he will be under more pressure.

I'm not doubting his talent just his body. He has never been 100% fit. It's ok to say just get him 100% fit but it's not going to happen.

We have to find another two decent midfielders to take the pressure off him and then we can make a better assessment. If you stuck him next to Judd and Kerr he would shine like a beacon. Sp perhaps the best thing is to give him a more realistic contract, and find him some help.
 
I have been on the fence as well with Hasleby, a mate of mine was telling me we should trade Hase. Initially I told him he was a clown and you dont trade players like hase but at the moment im leaning towards a trade.

There are 2 options i think.

1. We take him out of the centre square and play him at half foward or foward pocket, he is a good mark for his size and reasonable set shot.

2. Offer him at trade week and see who wants him and what the offer might be - if its good then trade him.
 

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