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I'm writing hypothetically anyway. The criticism is that it finished up poorly, a proposed solution is to take longer. It's not my fault they 'don't have time' to fulfill their artistic promise. And, from my couch on the other side of the planet; I shall criticise it as such.

I can imagine you slowly unwrapping a chocolate bar after finishing that last sentence.
 
Well, I mean, you can't be afraid to critisise art on an internet forum.

Not at all, you're entitled to. I just imagined this image:

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McConaughey is a movie star he would have refused an ongoing television role. Harrelson probably wasn't struggling for work either.
 

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I guess I was in the minority, but I really enjoyed the conclusion of True Detective. I mean, I was a little disappointed by the whole fight scene being a bit predictable (good guy injured, bad guy killed, but is actually just wounded, about to kill good guy, another good guy comes and saves the day), but I forgave it because of the rest of the show being so great and them chasing him round Carcossa was creepy as hell. And I really liked how the conclusion of all their hard work was just bringing down a bit of a weirdo rather than the whole Tuttle/Childress hierarchy. It made the pain and frustrations of both detectives more real, because the truth is that large-scale conspiracies just don't unravel that easily.

Also, the thing that seemed to get panned the most was Rust's "conversion" to a possible belief in the spiritual world. I don't really understand the reaction though. I thought it was just him willing himself to believe something, anything, that would give him what he truly wanted: reunification with his kid. And in his heightened emotional state (and physical pain), even a massive cynic like Rust could think that, even if only for a short time. He was a broken man. At first, I thought I liked it because I have a belief in God/spirituality/whatever, but then I realised that for me, it made sense that the character would think that. I don't really get why it was so criticised.
 
I loaned my DVD of the first season of the Wire to a mate once, he didn't even get through the prologue before handing it back coz he couldn't understand any of the dialogue.

Gotta fight through that sh1t for quality TV. I remember watching the first 3 episodes of Deadwood with the subtitles on (I kinda picked up the cadence after that and was ok without) and that's probably my favourite series of all time.


Blasphemy! ;) They took a suspect idea for an ending and made us sit through an entire season of it! I like to pretend it ended in after season 5 when they blew the nuke :D
 
Oh and PS..

McConaughey is left in a wheelchair, awoken from a state of personal heaven he can never return to, he's now as crippled physically as he already is psychologically. Woody's family left him, he has no job, he's another completely tortured individual. A Tuttle is still Governor, I think, and the remaining cabal of voodoo child molesters is still out there. Rainbows and fairies.

Did I completely miss this? I thought Woody wheeled him out only coz he hadn't fully recovered yet but would be fine in the long run.
 
I enjoyed Fargo a lot more. Was a far more consistent show than True Detective. Even the ending was decent. Maybe they got one correct this time.

I personally don't think it had the ceiling that True Detective did though, and as much as I enjoyed Billy Bob's performance I don't know how MM could have been overlooked for this award when he was arguably in career best form for True Detective.

I'm in the side that didn't mind the ending, the show was always about the lives and relationship of the two detectives rather than the case it's self, hence the title. I think too many people just built up the case too much and ultimately placed unrealistic expectations on the ending as a result, it was always going to disappoint some IMO.
 

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I enjoyed Fargo a lot more. Was a far more consistent show than True Detective. Even the ending was decent. Maybe they got one correct this time.

I prefer inconsistently brilliant over consistently decent. Fargo was quality but it won't have the same legacy as True Detective.
 
Oh and PS..



Did I completely miss this? I thought Woody wheeled him out only coz he hadn't fully recovered yet but would be fine in the long run.

Probably but he was in a bad way.

As for the awards: if TD was submitted in the mini-series at the Emmys, it would have won. If it went into the Golden Globes in the regular category, it might have straight up won. Fargo was a worthy winner in it's own right.

But at the end of the day, if your show wins, it was deserved, if it doesn't, they're rigged. Just looking at the nominations though is enough to tell me they're worthless anyway. If they can't get those right, winning the actual award isn't worth it.
 
I think I would have given Fargo the nod, but both were excellent series.

The ending in both was ok, but not great. Endings rarely are though as producers push and writers feel that everything should be tied up in neat little bows and everything explained. Life isn't like that though and I wish sometimes that many of these shows would have the guts to end in an unexplained limbo.
 
I'm in the side that didn't mind the ending, the show was always about the lives and relationship of the two detectives rather than the case it's self, hence the title. I think too many people just built up the case too much and ultimately placed unrealistic expectations on the ending as a result, it was always going to disappoint some IMO.
Internet forums are the worst at this sort of thing.

They're filled with hundreds of posts from people locked away in their rooms, over analysing everything to the point where they're convinced that they're never wrong.

True Detective was amazing, but some of the stuff that I've read on here (after watching the show) is hilarious. No wonder so many people feel aggrieved
 

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I'm in the side that didn't mind the ending, the show was always about the lives and relationship of the two detectives rather than the case it's self, hence the title. I think too many people just built up the case too much and ultimately placed unrealistic expectations on the ending as a result, it was always going to disappoint some IMO.

...also I can think of half a dozen cases in the past 30 years in Victoria alone where there wasn't /isn't a satisfactory ending...don't know why we expect it in a TV show of this type.
 

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