Society & Culture How Have You Changed Over the Years?

[exe ex machina]

Definition of weltschmerz..

- mental depression or apathy caused by comparison of the actual state of the world with an ideal state

- a mood of sentimental sadness

 

[HugeJohnson]

I don't know if it's because I'm three j's deep or what but geez.

I think it's completely possible if you cultivate enough inner awareness.

What's possible?

 

[HugeJohnson]

Definition of weltschmerz..

- mental depression or apathy caused by comparison of the actual state of the world with an ideal state

- a mood of sentimental sadness

I liked the definition "the feeling experienced by someone who understands physical reality can never satisfy the demands of the mind" (thanks wiki)

 

[The Speaker]

I am older than ever before.

 

[exe ex machina]

I liked the definition "the feeling experienced by someone who understands physical reality can never satisfy the demands of the mind" (thanks wiki)

Why I love that word....it has a great depth of meaning and context, can't be strictly translated to English.

 

[La Dispute]

What's possible?

Ego death and enlightenment.

I'm reading the wiki article on weltschmerz right now.

The whole thing is actually so fascinating and can be read in two ways.

1. (Cynic) The world is bad, our impressions will never match up to reality.
OR
2. (Optimist) There are two versions of reality: that inside your brain and the external reality. So why do we commonly assume the brain is correct?

I'm a complete optimist.

 

[PP34]

From what I think as a kid from about age ten through till about age seventeen I was pretty quiet, only got loud around my mates, I always got into pointless arguments so I probably annoyed plenty and I didn't have a ton of confidence.

Now I just don't really give a shit what others think, I'm pretty loud regardless of who I'm around and I'll talk to most people.

 

[Herne Hill Hammer]

I find the older I get the more confident I am and the less I care about the opinions of others. I look forward to being an old guy who just doesn't give a crap. I'll rant about how things were better in my day and how today's youth are good-for-nothing.

 

[chugginon]

Was always good-looking, intelligent, funny, rich, good with women, well travelled, cultured, socially conscious and philosophical but couldn't cook a quiche.

These days I can cook a quiche.

I can't cook a quiche.......

 

[Gough]

I don't think it's ego death, sometimes your ego can even get a little boost from time to time when you find that occasionally you're actually right about something. It's more just comfort in your own skin, and with you're own views.

 

[chugginon]

Hey GG, are you feeling any better today re people changing ? There are some good answers here so far, Grasshopper. I heard someone in their late teens was worried they were changing ........ think they were a bit frightened re "growing up" .

 

[exe ex machina]

Hey GG, are you feeling any better today re people changing ? There are some good answers here so far, Grasshopper. I heard someone in their late teens was worried they were changing ........ think they were a bit frightened re "growing up" .

Thanks for your concern, and remembering. No, I never feel better about anything, I just continue to take the bad with the worse. Life doesn't fool me. But don't let that confuse you. I'm carefree and happy go lucky regardless.

 

[Catfish Alley]

Sounds rough. Do you suffer depression? I can't imagine not seeing the good things in life.

 

[exe ex machina]

Sounds rough. Do you suffer depression? I can't imagine not seeing the good things in life.

I don't suffer depression. Depression suffers me.

 

[Gough]

I get the whole sentimental melancholy trip. I listened to Storm Front by Billy Joel on the weekend for the first time in years, and that's full of it. Examing your own past helps you understand your current self, and any look into the past comes with it a sense of whimsy.

 

[MrsEddieBetts]

OK, you two ..... http://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/awkward-flirting-stories.831388/

No thanks.

 

[HBF]

I'll bump this thread in 20 years and post my jaded rantings then

"til then, life is ****ing great!!!

I'll still be here. Pretty sure.

 

[Eagle got a win]

Thats the thing tho..a better understanding of yourself means you realize you aren't so special and pretty and smart and going places as you once thought, life beating your expectations, hopes and self down till you realize you're really insignificant and suck. So, short of killing oneself, a person alters their perception of self, dreams, aspirations to one of forlorn acceptance.

GG I've think you've just finally reached that point in life where everything just hits you. And your right about the expectation side of things. I went through similar experience that your feeling now. I'm turning 30 just around the corner.
From the ages of 15-20 I was a dreamer, had an expectation that I'd do something great. I think we all do when we are that age. Imagination is at its peak. But then from about 20-25 probably the toughest time in my life. The realisation that your not going to achieve what you thought. That your sort of feeling like a failure. I hit some pretty low low points in my life at that time, even bordering on suicidal. Maybe it's depression. I think it wasn't, not a medical condition, just simply lost in life. Just a lack of things not happening in my life that I was tired and exhausted from. I'd call it being burnout but in my early 20s.
I'm sure if I'd hit Tattslotto all that emptiness would disappear in an instant.
I almost died in a car accident at that time aswell. Was a miracle that I got out of that without a serious injury, but crashing at 100km and my car being total wrecked apart from the drivers seat area was a feeling of having a freak second chance for me.
A weight lifted from my shoulders as to say " mate, life isn't about being rich" being famous, even having a home that you own. living in envy of others" f..k them. I almost died. And for what, so you didn't get to places you thought you'd be. Big f...king deal. I didn't want to go out that way, being a sad lonely bitter man and it was up to me to change that thought process.

It's a journey. We all have different paths. Some good some bad. The one I'm on has been a battle with lots of lows, some highs but I'm happy right now. I'm happy I got through it. I'm happy I can witness my belovered Eagles play on the weekends. I'm happy to see my brothers and sisters and friends and have a good laugh once in a while. I'm happy I have the best parents I could of asked for. I'm happy I've had to earn my way because it's made me who I am now, a strong person.

I've been there and I feel I've come out of it for the better.
From ages of 25- now I'm 29 and I feel good about myself for the first time in my life actually. I'm losing my job through redundancy currently but I'll find something else. Family and friends is what keeps me going. The Little things. The morning sunrise. Watching my favourite TV/Movies, Swimming, relaxing in spas and saunas. Love being an passionate AFL supporter.
I have change a lot over the years and will continue to do so. I'm not afraid of dieing and I'm not afraid of growing old. In fact the afterlife kind of excites me in a way. I embrace it.

It's hard being lost through life I know but anyhow I hope this helps in some sort of way or maybe it's all just crap haha.
Your life. You decide.

 

[exe ex machina]

Eagle got a win thanks for sharing, much appreciated. I don't want to get into the sordid unbelievable tale of my life right now, but we share a similarity of journey. Wherever you are, go, GG will be with you in spirit, lending. You don't need THINGS, you have yourself, and it's a blessing onto others around you, even if they don't know it.

 

[La Dispute]

I don't think it's ego death, sometimes your ego can even get a little boost from time to time when you find that occasionally you're actually right about something. It's more just comfort in your own skin, and with you're own views.

That's not true ego death.

By using the word 'you' you're creating an identity and perpetuating the cycle of ego and self-satisfaction. 'You' is a falsified human construct, not a natural and organic version of life.

 

[Hoops]

Against what I'm told is meant to happen I have grown less conservative the older I get. I now know not everything is black and white but there are many shades of grey. One of my light bulb moments I remember was watching the 2000 Olympics opening ceremony and seeing Kathy Freeman light the fire -it was kept a secret up until that point. It made me angry thinking this is tokenism at its worse, she hadn't (at that stage) won Gold and I thought Susie O’Neil was far more deserving (It was women only passing the baton). It wasn't until after I was listening to the radio and the announcer said that it was a 'nice gesture' to have Kathy light the fire, just like it was a nice gesture to have women only pass the baton. This then got me thinking. I came to the realisation that it's not always about rewarding who could be perceived to be most deserving but sometimes it's nice to do something for someone or some people for the sake of helping and acknowledging minorities or those less fortunate.

 

[MrsEddieBetts]

Against what I'm told is meant to happen I have grown less conservative the older I get. I now know not everything is black and white but there are many shades of grey. One of my light bulb moments I remember was watching the 2000 Olympics opening ceremony and seeing Kathy Freeman light the fire -it was kept a secret up until that point. It made me angry thinking this is tokenism at its worse, she hadn't (at that stage) won Gold and I thought Susie O’Neil was far more deserving (It was women only passing the baton). It wasn't until after I was listening to the radio and the announcer said that it was a 'nice gesture' to have Kathy light the fire, just like it was a nice gesture to have women only pass the baton. This then got me thinking. I came to the realisation that it's not always about rewarding who could be perceived to be most deserving but sometimes it's nice to do something for someone or some people for the sake of helping and acknowledging minorities or those less fortunate.

This made me think of another way I've changed.

I used to be quite religious. I definitely believed in god/heaven/hell etc but I never tried to push my beliefs onto others. As I've gotten older I've become freed from religion.

 

[exe ex machina]

This made me think of another way I've changed.

I used to be quite religious. I definitely believed in god/heaven/hell etc but I never tried to push my beliefs onto others. As I've gotten older I've become freed from religion.

Heathen. Repent.

 

[Handsuper47]

I used to watch Richmond a lot hoping they would get a win, now I know they can actually win games I don't watch as much.

 

[kickazz]

The big one for me is less judgemental.

As you gather experiences and learn from and hear about other people's experiences you come to find that there can be so many things goin on, so many different reasons for people or things to be the way they are. When I was younger I judged things through the narrow prism of my limited experiences to date.


Also the standard stuff, less neurotic, more fat, more confident, more money, less time.