How much better do you feel now that the AFL has issued another 'oopsie'?

[Mattrox]

Once is unlucky, Twice a coincidence, four times is a pattern of behaviour by AFL Umpires.

 

[1970crow]

Bias doesn't need to be conscious. We routinely get shafted in high leverage moments. Do you think that's not happening?

I dont. But even if it's happening, it makes it more important that we get our side of the equation right. Until idiotic selection effups like Murphy cease, there's no point worrying about anything else. We already hamstring ourselves more than umpires can do.

 

[Cromulant]

Once is unlucky, Twice a coincidence, four times is a pattern of behaviour by AFL Umpires.

It would be interesting to see what the stats are for every club.

Let's not forget, poor umpiring decisions have cost flags in recent years too.

 

[Southerntakeover]

I dont. But even if it's happening, it makes it more important that we get our side of the equation right. Until idiotic selection effups like Murphy cease, there's no point worrying about anything else. We already hamstring ourselves more than umpires can do.

That it's happening is a simple statement of fact. It's not really open to not believe it. The AFL has admitted to four of the game altering errors in the last two years. You can dispute the reason for it, but trying to pretend the phenomena doesn't exist is just denialism for the sake of it.

The idea that you can't try to alter this because you could also be otherwise perfect is a false logic.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Bias doesn't need to be conscious. We routinely get shafted in high leverage moments. Do you think that's not happening?

Anyone who thinks this all a coincidence is delusional...

 

[1970crow]

That it's happening is a simple statement of fact. It's not really open to not believe it. The AFL has admitted to four of the game altering errors in the last two years. You can dispute the reason for it, but trying to pretend the phenomena doesn't exist is just denialism for the sake of it.

The idea that you can't try to alter this because you could also be otherwise perfect is a false logic.

I disagree that it's happening any more to us than to other clubs. We just bleat about it more because we're whiney bitches. Are you complaining about the Keane throw in defensive goal square?

 

[Cromulant]

I disagree that it's happening any more to us than to other clubs. We just bleat about it more because we're whiney bitches. Are you complaining about the Keane throw in defensive goal square?

The play on from the mark and resulting HTB that wasn't called in said goal square was a doozy as well.

 

[Punchy Bassett]

Did the umpire get sacked? Means nothing then.

 

[NSolis]

Anyone who thinks this all a coincidence is delusional...

It's absolutely a coincidence. Every AFL team's supporters think the umpires have it in for them. Is our supporter base the only one who is correct?

We happen to have had a number of poor umpiring decisons go against us in close games in the last 3 years, which is because we have lost a lot of close games in the last 3 years.

We are 3-11 since the start of 2023 in games decided by less than 10 points, plus one draw. Losing 11 games by a single digit margin in a bit over 2 years is a ton, and inevitably you're going to have some umpiring decisions go against you in the final stages. I'd say our luck in that area is worse than average but it's not intentional.

 

[NSolis]

I disagree that it's happening any more to us than to other clubs. We just bleat about it more because we're whiney bitches. Are you complaining about the Keane throw in defensive goal square?

It's quite possible for it to happen more to you than other clubs without it being a conspiracy too. After all, one club will be the unluckiest one in any given time period with umpiring late in close games. It's probably us in the last 40-odd games, which is what it is.

 

[Cromulant]

There was an article a couple weeks back that mentioned that 17 of the 18 sides copped more favourable umpiring at home than their opponents.

If that's not bias I'm not sure what is.

If you want to see further evidence of it, watch the 2016 and 2023 Grand Finals.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

I disagree that it's happening any more to us than to other clubs. We just bleat about it more because we're whiney bitches. Are you complaining about the Keane throw in defensive goal square?

Why have we got far, far more apologies from the AFL then?

You are ignoring the actual facts.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Did the umpire get sacked? Means nothing then.

No, he got an AFL bonus & guarantee of finals.

 

[VKCrow]

Just hope we come out and absolutely smash Geelong on the big stage. Boys better be breathing fire. Show the comp we mean business

 

[PCORF]

Well it has become quite obvious against Adelaide, esp Rankine and they probably know what they are doing. It is bound to happen again. At least it wasn't a preliminary final or grand final, but it could be one day in the future.

We need to be like Hawthorn, back up and go at it next week against what I think will be a very pumped up Geelong side. No whining about it and get the job done.

 

[Dangerousfield]

I don't believe in conspiracies but it is effing unbelievable that we can be on the wrong end of so many blatantly wrong calls that cost us games. This one has stopped us going 10-0

This doesn't happen to other clubs. Imagine if it was the Pies copping the run of game costing errors that we've copped.

Also haven't forgotten the too harsh penalties for Tippetgate or the disgraceful pressuring of the club to sack Matt Rendell who then gets employed by the lucky Pies six months later!

AFL is still the VFL - corrupt bastards

 

[Scorpus]

Maybe it happens to us more because we are good at being behind at the end of close games.

If I'm not mistaken, all of the apologies relate to us trying to score to win the game from behind.

Of course egregious errors happen to all teams. But we need to be apologized to so often because of what we are as a team

 

[Southerntakeover]

I disagree that it's happening any more to us than to other clubs. We just bleat about it more because we're whiney bitches. Are you complaining about the Keane throw in defensive goal square?

Yeah, look I get the position that you want to bring to the thread is that ignoring being screwed repeatedly is a mark of toughness, but show me the four apologies issued to every club for game altering decisions in one score games?

 

[Southerntakeover]

Maybe it happens to us more because we are good at being behind at the end of close games.

If I'm not mistaken, all of the apologies relate to us trying to score to win the game from behind.

Of course egregious errors happen to all teams. But we need to be apologized to so often because of what we are as a team

More than one thing can be true.

We can need to be better, and also we deserve officiating that doesn't continuously err against us with the game on the line.

 

[Scorpus]

More than one thing can be true.

We can need to be better, and also we deserve officiating that doesn't continuously err against us with the game on the line.

Of course. I think it could explain whether it's a biased conspiracy against us, versus pure coincidental incompetence though

 

[WheresGroomgone]

I feel better now that the ferals lost to a team at Adelaide oval that we beat by 63 points - I would bet that the feral supporters visiting the GCoast board congratulating them for beating us are feeling really great right now!

Can’t wait for the showdown they are a mess!

 

[119others]

What legal avenues? Do you think the AFL is going to award premiership points or let Adelaide start all games in 2024 ahead by 10 points or something because we threaten to sue them over an umpiring error?

Complaining and hoping that you get better treatment in the future is all you can do.

The other poster is taking the piss. It can’t be a serious suggestion.

What’s the legal basis for legal action besides annoyed club and supporters? What rules or laws of the game allow us to sue them for a bad decision in general play with 1:40 left on the clock.

Answer = zero

And taking such action means we would get screwed every single eek going forwars

 

[119others]

Maybe it happens to us more because we are good at being behind at the end of close games.

If I'm not mistaken, all of the apologies relate to us trying to score to win the game from behind.

Of course egregious errors happen to all teams. But we need to be apologized to so often because of what we are as a team

We were only behind as we had been screwed by 2-4 other goals during the game

Otherwise it’s the same pathetic arguments people were putting up with Keaysgate that we didn’t deserve to win as 5 goals down at 3/4 time

 

[Scorpus]

We were only behind as we had been screwed by 2-4 other goals during the game

Otherwise it’s the same pathetic arguments people were putting up with Keaysgate that we didn’t deserve to win as 5 goals down at 3/4 time

It doesn't matter.

If we are the club that is behind at the end of close games more often than any other we are more likely to be screwed by a last minute umpiring call in our forward line than any other.

Which doesn't make it a conspiracy against us

 

[NSolis]

Maybe it happens to us more because we are good at being behind at the end of close games.

If I'm not mistaken, all of the apologies relate to us trying to score to win the game from behind.

Of course egregious errors happen to all teams. But we need to be apologized to so often because of what we are as a team

Yes - we have lost a lot of close games in the last 40 or so weeks. We've also shown an ability to hang in games and come from behind late, which means we're in a position to be robbed by a poor umpiring decision more than other teams because we are pushing for a final goal to complete a comeback. That, plus some pretty serious misfortune (Keays non-referral obviously the worst).