Howard's position may be in doubt

[whats_at_stake]

Two articles recently specifying that RSA, Zimbabwe and Sri Lanka will oppose the John Howard nomination.

Not sure, on the one hand I understand Sri Lanka's stance that it should be a cricket person (IMO the NZ person should have gotten it) but at the same time he has been nominated by the backing of Aus and NZ.

http://www.cricinfo.com/ci-icc/content/current/story/460964.html

http://www.cricinfo.com/ci-icc/content/current/story/461094.html

 

[alfy!]

Very interesting, and suggests that there is a bit of heat at the moment in world cricket politics.

 

[Bomber Bears]

Dont particularly want Howard representing our cricketing area so good from that sense.

On the other hand Zimbabwe can get ****ed. Puppet cricket organisation from a tyrannical government who treat its citizens like dirt. Australia and NZ were 100% correct not to tour there and whilst Mugabe is in charge they shouldnt have a place in test cricket.

 

[Ill Chicken]

How have they even got a say is the question.

Zimbabwe, South Africa and Sri Lanka are seriously kidding themselves with this stance.

 

[Doodlesweaver]

How have they even got a say is the question.

Zimbabwe, South Africa and Sri Lanka are seriously kidding themselves with this stance.

Regardless of the dodginess of Zimbabwe's political leaders, SA back them in more than just cricket, so it isn't a surprise that they are willing to come out in support.

Also Zimbabwe form part of the India voting bloc on the ICC. So they have some genuine pull in the politics of cricket.

The protests may seem like flying a kite but it is a serious slap in the face for CA.

I thought NZ weren't that comfortable with Howard but were going along with it to be supportive of CA.

He was bound to be a divisive choice.

 

[whats_at_stake]

Yesterday's Age said something about India probably not supporting Howard (an article by Roebuck) however today's said India will be supporting Howard and Sahrad Pawar has said this (although his views may not be the BCCI's- doubtful to be different).

 

[JimDocker]

I am generally a person that leans to the left from a political point of view, so Howard is not my cup of tea.

But frankly, if other countries do not vote for him because he said bad things about a tyrannical, murderous dictator, there is a problem !

 

[BarneyBent]

I am generally a person that leans to the left from a political point of view, so Howard is not my cup of tea.

But frankly, if other countries do not vote for him because he said bad things about a tyrannical, murderous dictator, there is a problem !

My view too. Hated him as PM mainly for his social attitudes, but I can't see anything wrong with him being ICC President. One thing he always did, for which I have a grudging respect, was stick to his guns, and you can bet he won't let India walk all over him.

The way these countries have reacted is beyond poor.

 

[frankrizzo]

Yeah im certainly no howard fan but going on some of the nutjobs they have had running the ICC in the last 10-15 years he's a saint.

 

[dan warna]

Australia's fault for nominating Howard.

There are plenty of great administrators in cricket and sport in general who would have leapt at the job, been strong and not been as divisive.

If you nominate a tosser that doesn't even have the general support of the cricket community or the australian community, how can you expect the world to accept him?

I'm sure he'll get in eventually but be a jerk there as well.


you propose a jerk and you get this response.

 

[Adrian Shelton]

...And finally the 'split' in world cricket will come

 

[Ill Chicken]

Australia's fault for nominating Howard.

There are plenty of great administrators in cricket and sport in general who would have leapt at the job, been strong and not been as divisive.

If you nominate a tosser that doesn't even have the general support of the cricket community or the australian community, how can you expect the world to accept him?

I'm sure he'll get in eventually but be a jerk there as well.


you propose a jerk and you get this response.

What are you, Tom Cruise?

 

[Impunity!]

What are you, Tom Cruise?

I agree the ******ry is strong in that one

 

[Slattery_20]

Zimbabwe opposing you should be seen as a mark you're doing something right, not the other way around.

 

[holybishop]

Other countries are shitting themselves because they know that an ICC under Howard wont be pushovers to the sub continent like it always has been.

 

[whats_at_stake]

Other countries are shitting themselves because they know that an ICC under Howard wont be pushovers to the sub continent like it always has been.

Well India is supporting him according to recent articles.

 

[holybishop]

Well India is supporting him according to recent articles.

They're not really supporting him, they're just not going to oppose his appointment. There's enough tension between the two countries without throwing this spanner into the works.

 

[damochandler]

he should never have got the job in the first place. the kiwi bloke was the best candidate. they only gave him the job because he loves the game so much. he will be like all the other presidents. when push comes to shove with india. he will fold. he has a history of alowing to be pushed around by other countries

 

[Impunity!]

he should never have got the job in the first place. the kiwi bloke was the best candidate. they only gave him the job because he loves the game so much. he will be like all the other presidents. when push comes to shove with india. he will fold. he has a history of alowing to be pushed around by other countries

Name eight.

 

[damochandler]

Name eight.

i will name 2. america and england

 

[Ill Chicken]

That is a load of crap. He maintained Australia's interest, which is to keep a strong relationship with the USA. What role has the UK played in Australian domestic policy in the last 10 years? None.

 

[Impunity!]

i will name 2. america and england

England?!

Disgrace, England hasn't even had a government since 1707.

Poor show Johnny

 

[The_Reaper]

i will name 2. america and england

This isn't the correct board for this but no Australian Prime Minister would have done any differently.

Howard had many faults but he was not a pushover.

I also fail to see why the New Zealand candidate is clearly better?
Selecting someone with a cricket background makes sense, for a coaching position. As President of the ICC, the experience and respect from the Prime Ministership of Australia for a decade makes Howard ideally suited.
Sri Lanka's real concern is Howard's previous comments about Murali.

 

[Indian_Hotdog]

What subcontinental pushing and shoving are you on about ? India's hold over the ICC is nowhere near the despotical monopoly that Eng and Aus had over it up untill the early 90s.

 

[Impunity!]

What subcontinental pushing and shoving are you on about ? India's hold over the ICC is nowhere near the despotical monopoly that Eng and Aus had over it up untill the early 90s.

Turn it up Sachin.