Howard's position may be in doubt

[King Elvis]

Australia wants to be careful over this, or else we'll be back to our domestic comp, and thats all.

Yea... Nah.

**** them.

Australia, England, NZ and the Saffers if they stop being pricks; could break away and sustain it.

 

[Phone]

A man who was Prime Minister of a country for a decade is more than suitably qualified for a role in administering cricket

A mute and illiterate child is qualified enough to head the ICC in all honestly; it doesn't really matter who is the head and what his/her experience is because he/her doesn't really do much. But I would still like someone with a history in cricket administration. I know it's hypocritical of me but...

He had no cricket administration back ground prior to 2001. Pawar is also taking on the role part-time because he already has his position in Indian politics to attend to first.

Yes, when he became head of the Mumbai Cricket Association he was "from from a non-cricketing back ground", but by the time he got appointed ICC VP and president he was well and truly involved with cricket.

But I don't like Pawar as president either, with that shadow of corruption hanging over him....


Really the ICC president should just be some old, respected cricket administration who is about to retire from work.

 

[skipper kelly]

Yea... Nah.

**** them.

Australia, England, NZ and the Saffers if they stop being pricks; could break away and sustain it.

this

 

[apollo_creed]

Yep - shame on the Asian countries for voting against someone with wait for it.... a shitty history with Asians.
(and that's a fact - goes right back to his early days)
Or should they just blindly accept any candidate put forth?

The racist bigoted liar has been denied. And his followers are seemingly heartbroken. Get over it. And take your childish (oohhh lets have a breakaway competition because 6 countries didn't want Howard) dreams elsewhere. It is such a stupid idea with absolutely no chance of happening.
And from here it's borne from a couple of immature people unable to accept democratic defeat. So they've picked up their toys and thrown them out the pram! Childish behaviour.

Maybe he go and fabricate some more children overboard?
How could we trust him with such a history of dishonesty? (or do we conveniently ignore that because he isn't Indian?)

And you have to love the assumptions that just because 6 countries voted against Howard it was all down to India.
That is nothing more than childish speculation and reading the regular bouts of crap on here it's borne from an irrational hatred.
Each country has the right to vote as they so choose - unless you people suddenly have something against democractic processes? (or is it only when it doesn't work in your favour?)

He was denied. Move on. And stop with the tantrums.

 

[Philhawk]

So glad he isn't going to be President. The NZ bloke will end up doing a far better job.

 

[eddiesmith]

Well India is the only country with enough power to have 2 countries change their minds at the last minute

 

[Ill Chicken]

Yep - shame on the Asian countries for voting against someone with wait for it.... a shitty history with Asians.
(and that's a fact - goes right back to his early days)
Or should they just blindly accept any candidate put forth?

The racist bigoted liar has been denied. And his followers are seemingly heartbroken. Get over it. And take your childish (oohhh lets have a breakaway competition because 6 countries didn't want Howard) dreams elsewhere. It is such a stupid idea with absolutely no chance of happening.
And from here it's borne from a couple of immature people unable to accept democratic defeat. So they've picked up their toys and thrown them out the pram! Childish behaviour.

Maybe he go and fabricate some more children overboard?
How could we trust him with such a history of dishonesty? (or do we conveniently ignore that because he isn't Indian?)

And you have to love the assumptions that just because 6 countries voted against Howard it was all down to India.
That is nothing more than childish speculation and reading the regular bouts of crap on here it's borne from an irrational hatred.
Each country has the right to vote as they so choose - unless you people suddenly have something against democractic processes? (or is it only when it doesn't work in your favour?)

He was denied. Move on. And stop with the tantrums.

I don't think I've read anything more childish, tantrum like and immature as that spiel of crap.

 

[Impunity!]

I don't think I've read anything more childish, tantrum like and immature as that spiel of crap.

Strongly agree

 

[apollo_creed]

And I see in the news my suspicions are correct he has been labelled a 'closet racist' and there is evidence around which supports that theory.

They are well within their rights to reject it on those grounds. It is an obviously suitable reason for Asian nations to contest/reject his appointment.

You people are sooking over India - and while in other cases it's justified - in this case it's simply not. It's a democratic process and they object to his appointment on those grounds.

If the NZ bloke gets in good on him it will only prove Howard was rejected for the simple but obvious reasons stated above.

No one likes a racist. And sadly you people are letting either your own political beliefs/support and/or your bigotry dictate your opinion on this matter when there's absolutely no cause for outrage. I would go further but I won't and hope I'm wrong but for ****s sake - there's absolutely nothing to see here.

From what I'm reading the NZ guy will get in?

I'm quite mixed politically - and have no preference between Labor and Liberal (but sadly from reading the SRP board, I know how blindly ideological some of the respondents in this thread are ) but there's nothing I detest more than racial intolerance and bigotry.

And for this reason - I'm particularly glad that someone with a history of this has been denied a position because of it.

 

[apollo_creed]

I don't think I've read anything more childish, tantrum like and immature as that spiel of crap.

On what basis? You can't argue the points so you attack the man.

I have no doubt this is nothing more than a political fanboy issue on here. Unrelenting Liberal voters and former Howard megafans are upset because he wasn't approved.
Denial doesn't change fact.

The hatred towards India for rejecting an appointment on the basis of racism is quite ridiculous.
An issue which remains strongly prevalent in our society and seemingly underpins irrational crap on here.

He has a poor history with Asian people/opposing cultures and it cost him this position.
That is the reason. End of story.

 

[Impunity!]

And I see in the news my suspicions are correct he has been labelled a 'closet racist' and there is evidence around which supports that theory.

They are well within their rights to reject it on those grounds. It is an obviously suitable reason for Asian nations to contest/reject his appointment.

You people are sooking over India - and while in other cases it's justified - in this case it's simply not. It's a democratic process and they object to his appointment on those grounds.

If the NZ bloke gets in good on him it will only prove Howard was rejected for the simple but obvious reasons stated above.

No one likes a racist. And sadly you people are letting either your own political beliefs/support and/or your bigotry dictate your opinion on this matter when there's absolutely no cause for outrage. I would go further but I won't and hope I'm wrong but for ****s sake - there's absolutely nothing to see here.

From what I'm reading the NZ guy will get in?

I'm quite mixed politically - and have no preference between Labor and Liberal (but sadly from reading the SRP board, I know how blindly ideological some of the respondents in this thread are ) but there's nothing I detest more than racial intolerance and bigotry.

And for this reason - I'm particularly glad that someone with a history of this has been denied a position because of it.

To paraphrase Johnson, the call of "racism" is the last refuge of a scoundrel.

Recess is over for you AC

 

[apollo_creed]

Strongly agree

I've read your stuff on the SRP board and such over time mate - and your opinions could only be described as far, far right.

So your defense of Howard is quite meaningless.

 

[apollo_creed]

To paraphrase Johnson, the call of "racism" is the last refuge of a scoundrel.

Recess is over for you AC

Is it?

Explain the children overboard stuff then mate?

What would you call that?

A cultural misunderstanding? Unforunate? Regrettable? Lemony snickets a series of unfortunate events?

 

[Impunity!]

Is it?

Explain the children overboard stuff then mate?

What would you call that?

A cultural misunderstanding? Unforunate? Regrettable? Lemony snickets a series of unfortunate events?

And that was based on race was it? That it was OK to fib because they had a touch of the tar brush about them?

Turn it up.

And your comment about me being "far, far right" - what are you trying to say?

 

[apollo_creed]

That your ideologies are shaping your opinions on cricket administration.

When it's simply a matter of accepting the reasons behind 6 countries rejecting an appointment by means of a democratic system.

 

[eddiesmith]

Ah yes, he is a racist, that is the only reason they all rejected him! Of course nothing to do with the fact he might do a good job as ICC president which is what India is most afraid of

But it is funny how no one will come out and say why they voted him down, obviously dont think the racist angle is good enough and they will never admit the real reason of being afraid so they will all remain in silence

 

[DeadlyAkkuret]

I would have thought being a racist would be the only qualification necessary

 

[Phone]

Of course nothing to do with the fact he might do a good job as ICC president which is what India is most afraid of

Much more likely he'll be like every ICC president before him.




He won't really do much at all. He can't do anything without the support of the cricket boards.

 

[Ill Chicken]

On what basis? You can't argue the points so you attack the man.

I have no doubt this is nothing more than a political fanboy issue on here. Unrelenting Liberal voters and former Howard megafans are upset because he wasn't approved.
Denial doesn't change fact.

The hatred towards India for rejecting an appointment on the basis of racism is quite ridiculous.
An issue which remains strongly prevalent in our society and seemingly underpins irrational crap on here.

He has a poor history with Asian people/opposing cultures and it cost him this position.
That is the reason. End of story.

No I am not attacking you, I am saying what you have written, in both instances now, is childish, immature and tantrum like. Just like you have generalised in a swipe at the Howard supporters in this role.

You want to equate the decisions of ICC President to a PM accepting illegal immigrants at numbers that will adversely affect the current population, in a position that is constantly challenged by all parties and platforms in society.

India have not given a formal explanation for the rejection of Howard and the rejections that have been cited so far are completely absurd considering the same instances have already and continue to occur in all cricketing bodies around the world.

For these boards to use the race card (which they haven't), which you are using, is honestly laughable.

 

[Freo Big Fella]

I would have thought being a racist would be the only qualification necessary

Certainly worked for Sunil Gavaskar.

 

[ManWithNoName]

And I see in the news my suspicions are correct he has been labelled a 'closet racist' and there is evidence around which supports that theory.

They are well within their rights to reject it on those grounds. It is an obviously suitable reason for Asian nations to contest/reject his appointment.

Yes. India and South Africa are the ones to point the finger and call others racist.

For crying out loud get a clue.

 

[sherb]

That your ideologies are shaping your opinions on cricket administration.

What's shaping your opinion on cricket administration then?

When it's simply a matter of accepting the reasons behind 6 countries rejecting an appointment by means of a democratic system.

Six countries, lol.

More like 1 country, with 5 playing follow the leader.

 

[Kim Hagdorn]

And I see in the news my suspicions are correct he has been labelled a 'closet racist' and there is evidence around which supports that theory.

They are well within their rights to reject it on those grounds. It is an obviously suitable reason for Asian nations to contest/reject his appointment.

You people are sooking over India - and while in other cases it's justified - in this case it's simply not. It's a democratic process and they object to his appointment on those grounds.

If the NZ bloke gets in good on him it will only prove Howard was rejected for the simple but obvious reasons stated above.

No one likes a racist. And sadly you people are letting either your own political beliefs/support and/or your bigotry dictate your opinion on this matter when there's absolutely no cause for outrage. I would go further but I won't and hope I'm wrong but for ****s sake - there's absolutely nothing to see here.

From what I'm reading the NZ guy will get in?

I'm quite mixed politically - and have no preference between Labor and Liberal (but sadly from reading the SRP board, I know how blindly ideological some of the respondents in this thread are ) but there's nothing I detest more than racial intolerance and bigotry.

And for this reason - I'm particularly glad that someone with a history of this has been denied a position because of it.

Serious question, do you have complete shit for brains or is this some kind of a piss take?

This is probably the most idiotic and irrational drivel I've ever read in my life.

I've heard Tom Cruise or even Joaquin Phoenix on the meds speak more sense than this.

 

[apollo_creed]

No I am not attacking you, I am saying what you have written, in both instances now, is childish, immature and tantrum like. Just like you have generalised in a swipe at the Howard supporters in this role.

You want to equate the decisions of ICC President to a PM accepting illegal immigrants at numbers that will adversely affect the current population, in a position that is constantly challenged by all parties and platforms in society.

India have not given a formal explanation for the rejection of Howard and the rejections that have been cited so far are completely absurd considering the same instances have already and continue to occur in all cricketing bodies around the world.

For these boards to use the race card (which they haven't), which you are using, is honestly laughable.

Your second sentence sums it all up.

You've completely ignored the exposed lies of the boat people scandal by making the issue about immigration when it that instance it's a completely distant/secondary issue.

So you've exposed your hand by avoiding the issue mate. And definitely outed yourself as a racist.

That issue is about demonising a group of people to befit your agenda with a known lie accusing them of the most disgraceful of acts to paint them as awfully as possible and score cheap political points/justification with the public (which obviously worked on you and even after the admission hasn't ceased to) and not where one stands on the issue of immigration.

Unbelievable mate. And I do know where you stand now so well done.

 

[apollo_creed]

Certainly worked for Sunil Gavaskar.

And you'd obviously support his appointment.

Otherwise you'd be a hypocrite.