I tipped Round 1 to 22 and here is my Ladder

[Bourky23]

i'm liking where you've got the sainters sitting

 

[Ekulman]

We'll finish Top 2 just so Collingwood have to travel in Week 1.

My guess is they'll get lost on the way to the airport.

Either that or they'll think they are on their end of season trip and end up in Bali.

ahh fond memories of 02 and 03
black and white > teal

 

[donbooger]

Club Wins

West Coast    18
St.Kilda    16
Geelong    15
Port Adelaide    15
Brisbane    14
Fremantle    13
Hawthorn    13
Adelaide    12
Collingwood    12
Sydney    12
Carlton    11
Richmond    9
Kangaroos    8
Bulldogs    4
Essendon    3
Melbourne    1

Are you aware that west coast lost judd and cousins, i think it may have been on the news.

Melbourne 1 win. They will be a far better side then last year and they still managed to pick up a few wins then.

Those are some big improvements in richmond and carlton considering there are a lot of teams on the way up from last season i dont see anything this dramatic occuring.

 

[audas]

If Richmond, and Carlton win 11 games combined I will be surprised.

Also if you think the Eagles are only going to lose 4 times while the Cats lose 7 you are on the gear my friend.

From a personal note, the Hawks will either do alot better or alot worse than 13 wins - Im tipping 15 or 10.

Oh and one other thing - Adelaide making finals (especcially with the Pies out of it) is an absolute joke!!!

Might be true of Richmond, but seriously, can't see Hawks getting within ten goals of the blues in 08. Have spent 6 years re-building, luckily added the best player in the AFL, along with the return of our premiere mid, and the emergence of half a dozen young players from the youngest list in the league.....Hawks are going to get pantsed ......will be some very red faces in 2008 if teams treat the Blues as the same from 2007 or earlier.

Pethetic show last season, grand final showed this, hawks, north, crows, pies, are gone.

 

[mr e]

Might be true of Richmond, but seriously, can't see Hawks getting within ten goals of the blues in 08.

the blues will be a 160 point better team next year?

 

[Tiger_Of_Old]

but seriously, can't see Hawks getting within ten goals of the blues in 08.

Talking about being delusional.And thats being kind.

 

[GoSydneySwans]

These kind of whole season tippings often have extreme results one way or another, because if you rate a team really terrible there is no individual game you would actually tip them to win, so although you know they will win a few, you don't know which games. The same goes for the other end of the ladder. If we all did a whole season tipping thing we'd have similar results, at least with a really high team and really low

Spot on. Let's just 'pretend' someone thought that Carlton were the worst team in the AFL. If they were go through each game individually, they should lose them all, because they rate every team in the competition more highly. But I'd be surprised if anyone really expects 2008's wooden spooners to finish on 0 wins.

 

[dales.girl38]

I'm quietly confident that we'll win more than 4 games next year

 

[dobbo_18]

I've tried finding a 2008 ladder predictor but I can't find one anywhere. Does anyone know where I could find one?

 

[X_box_X]

Did my ladder for 2083.

1. Victoria 19-3, 38pts
2. Western Australia 18-4, 36 pts
3. South Australia 17-5, 34 pts
4. Tasmania 14-8, 28 pts
5. Darwin 11-10-1, 23 pts
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6. Queensland 11-11, 22 pts
7. Irleand 10-11-1, 21 pts
8. Wellington 8-13-1, 17 pts
9. NSW/ACT 14-8, 13 pts *
10. Auckland 5-17, 10 pts
11. Cape town 3-19, 6 pts
12. Christchurch 0-21-1, 1 pt
* Deducted 15 premiership points for entering administration

 

[Swooop]

Did my ladder for 2083.

1. Victoria 19-3, 38pts
2. Western Australia 18-4, 36 pts
3. South Australia 17-5, 34 pts
4. Tasmania 14-8, 28 pts
5. Darwin 11-10-1, 23 pts
-------
6. Queensland 11-11, 22 pts
7. Irleand 10-11-1, 21 pts
8. Wellington 8-13-1, 17 pts
9. NSW/ACT 14-8, 13 pts *
10. Auckland 5-17, 10 pts
11. Capetoun 3-19, 6 pts
12. Christchurch 0-21-1, 1 pt
* Deducted 15 premiership points for entering administration

Lol that's gold

 

[Leather Poisoning]

Club Wins

West Coast    18
St.Kilda    16
Geelong    15
Port Adelaide    15
Brisbane    14
Fremantle    13
Hawthorn    13
Adelaide    12
Collingwood    12
Sydney    12
Carlton    11
Richmond    9
Kangaroos    8
Bulldogs    4
Essendon    3
Melbourne    1

So the changes in wins, by club would look like this:

Carlton +7. This looks unlikely. Even with a reverse in their approach to actually winning a game, and with Judd and Hadley in the side. Winning 7 games more than the previous year requires a huge improvement from every player as well as a slice of luck.

Richmond +6. Relatively unchanged list. Young players more experienced especially Foley and King playing good footy. Finished above Geelong in 06, slipped badly in 7. Could they rise again as quickly? They were playing much better footy at the end of the season than 16th. But the pressure's on this club, and a few early losses could see it all fall apart.

St Kilda +5 This I could see happening. It was starting to come together after a really slow start (most likely due to a new coach, etc.) But were looking pretty good at times. Could be a big improver. A lot depends on how and where the new players are used.

Brisbane +5. This I can definitely see happening. Brisbane were THE form side of the comp between rounds 13-19 (who was it that ended this run?) With Bradshaw back as another target up forward I can see them being big improvers in 08.

West Coast +3. Just lost 2 brownlow medallists from the midfield. Can't be a good thing. A good side, but to improve on 2007 is a stretch.

Fremantle +3. They should be able to do this. So disappointing in 2007. It depends how long it takes for the new coach and players to settle in. Discipline problems are having outrageous affect on win/loss ratio.

Port Adelaide 0. Are a good side with a lot of talented youth. Great in close games. Have lost Bailey and Clarkson from the coaching panel. Interesting to see what effect this has. From the outside it's always so difficult to guage how much influence the assistant coaches have.

Adelaide 0. Have lost Roo, Hudson and Welsh. Young players not exactly the talk of the town. Best players are really getting on in age.

Hawthorn 0. As said earlier - hawks will either do a fair bit better or a fair bit worse. 10 or 15 wins.

Collingwood 0. Very similar side to Hawthorn.

Sydney 0. When Barry Hall learns how to mark, this side will be much better. New game plan required?

Geelong -3. You would expect that Geelong won't have the same year they just had. This seems reasonable, despite them having no apparent achillies.

Melbourne -4. Melbourne supporters claim a great list with amazing young players. Outsiders see a club that struggled and felt like a change in coach was required. New coach comes in and early games will be interesting. Will probably see rd 1 as a big opportunity with the Hawks missing players due to brainsnaps in the semi final. Backline with HUGE question marks on it.

Bulldogs -5. Eade would lose his job if this happened. Lost their spark this year and slid as quickly as they shot up. Finished the season with a whimper and will be low on confidence heading into this season. Early wins important, if not. Big slide could be on the cards.

Kangaroos -6. Let's face it - it's tradition to underestimate this club.

Essendon -7. New coaches can often take a long time to settle in. Midfield has been widely spoken of as one of the least impressive in the league. Won 6 games by less than 10 points in 2007 and have lost their best igniter in Hird.

 

[Bay Pie]

We'll finish Top 2 just so Collingwood have to travel in Week 1.

My guess is they'll get lost on the way to the airport.

Either that or they'll think they are on their end of season trip and end up in Bali.

Yeah, just like in 2002 hey.

We actually travel very well winning in every state in 2007.

 

[HBF]

Would be pretty happy if Carlton could get 11 wins next year.

 

[Atomboy]

So the changes in wins, by club would look like this:

Carlton +7. This looks unlikely. Even with a reverse in their approach to actually winning a game, and with Judd and Hadley in the side. Winning 7 games more than the previous year requires a huge improvement from every player as well as a slice of luck.

Richmond +6. Relatively unchanged list. Young players more experienced especially Foley and King playing good footy. Finished above Geelong in 06, slipped badly in 7. Could they rise again as quickly? They were playing much better footy at the end of the season than 16th. But the pressure's on this club, and a few early losses could see it all fall apart.

St Kilda +5 This I could see happening. It was starting to come together after a really slow start (most likely due to a new coach, etc.) But were looking pretty good at times. Could be a big improver. A lot depends on how and where the new players are used.

Brisbane +5. This I can definitely see happening. Brisbane were THE form side of the comp between rounds 13-19 (who was it that ended this run?) With Bradshaw back as another target up forward I can see them being big improvers in 08.

West Coast +3. Just lost 2 brownlow medallists from the midfield. Can't be a good thing. A good side, but to improve on 2007 is a stretch.

Fremantle +3. They should be able to do this. So disappointing in 2007. It depends how long it takes for the new coach and players to settle in. Discipline problems are having outrageous affect on win/loss ratio.

Port Adelaide 0. Are a good side with a lot of talented youth. Great in close games. Have lost Bailey and Clarkson from the coaching panel. Interesting to see what effect this has. From the outside it's always so difficult to guage how much influence the assistant coaches have.

Adelaide 0. Have lost Roo, Hudson and Welsh. Young players not exactly the talk of the town. Best players are really getting on in age.

Hawthorn 0. As said earlier - hawks will either do a fair bit better or a fair bit worse. 10 or 15 wins.

Collingwood 0. Very similar side to Hawthorn.

Sydney 0. When Barry Hall learns how to mark, this side will be much better. New game plan required?

Geelong -3. You would expect that Geelong won't have the same year they just had. This seems reasonable, despite them having no apparent achillies.

Melbourne -4. Melbourne supporters claim a great list with amazing young players. Outsiders see a club that struggled and felt like a change in coach was required. New coach comes in and early games will be interesting. Will probably see rd 1 as a big opportunity with the Hawks missing players due to brainsnaps in the semi final. Backline with HUGE question marks on it.

Bulldogs -5. Eade would lose his job if this happened. Lost their spark this year and slid as quickly as they shot up. Finished the season with a whimper and will be low on confidence heading into this season. Early wins important, if not. Big slide could be on the cards.

Kangaroos -6. Let's face it - it's tradition to underestimate this club.

Essendon -7. New coaches can often take a long time to settle in. Midfield has been widely spoken of as one of the least impressive in the league. Won 6 games by less than 10 points in 2007 and have lost their best igniter in Hird.

That's actually a very interesting way to analyse things.

Quite enjoyed that.

 

[The Teflon Dean]

Would be pretty happy if Carlton could get 11 wins next year.

You would also be hallucinating.

 

[spurs]

Club Wins

West Coast	18
St.Kilda	16
Geelong	15
Port Adelaide	15
Brisbane	14
Fremantle	13
Hawthorn	13
Adelaide	12
Collingwood	12
Sydney	12
Carlton	11
Richmond	9
Kangaroos	8
Bulldogs	4
Essendon	3
Melbourne	1

Are you that uneducated about footy considering the Roos finished 3rd this year and now you have us 13th.
Try putting us in the 3rd-8th category

 

[SirJimi05]

I would be very suprised if we win 7 less games than what we did this season.

 

[HongKongRoo]

Are you that uneducated about footy considering the Roos finished 3rd this year and now you have us 13th.
Try putting us in the 3rd-8th category

Was actually quite shocked when I saw we weren't predicted for the spoon (as will be the case for most 08 predictions)

 

[SirJimi05]

Are you that uneducated about footy considering the Roos finished 3rd this year and now you have us 13th.
Try putting us in the 3rd-8th category

It's actually not out of the norm for a top 4/6 team to go bottom 4 the next year is it? Didn't it happen to Melbourne this year? It's also not that uncommon for teams to finish bottom 4 one year then top the next, did't North finish 14th in 2006? It seems that prediction wasn't all that uneducated at all. I would be surprised if one team in the top end of the ladder from this year didn't have a big fall, the question is who will it be? My money would be on the Roos, Swans or Crows.

 

[Visions]

Look, I know this may be a brash prediction, but I'm predicting Collingwood will finish somewhere between 1st and 16th.

 

[bungareepremiers06]

Look, I know this may be a brash prediction, but I'm predicting Collingwood will finish somewhere between 1st and 16th.

quite probably th most insightful post in the thread! west coast wont even make the 8 this year, definatly a team on the slide

 

[Jimmy's Hot Dogs]

Did my ladder for 2083.

1. Victoria 19-3, 38pts
2. Western Australia 18-4, 36 pts
3. South Australia 17-5, 34 pts
4. Tasmania 14-8, 28 pts
5. Darwin 11-10-1, 23 pts
-------
6. Queensland 11-11, 22 pts
7. Irleand 10-11-1, 21 pts
8. Wellington 8-13-1, 17 pts
9. NSW/ACT 14-8, 13 pts *
10. Auckland 5-17, 10 pts
11. Cape town 3-19, 6 pts
12. Christchurch 0-21-1, 1 pt
* Deducted 15 premiership points for entering administration

Don't undereastimate North Melbourne Andy


Great ladder

 

[greenlight]

essendon 3 wins...hahahahahahahahahaha....8+ wins min....you underestimate them

 

[Blues_Man]

You've got to be JOKING!!!!
West coast??? what the heck? I nearly fell off my chair when I saw that, as if!!!

& yet again we are under rated...
I hope you're not calling your self an expert because not even an 'expert' would tip a ladder like that!!

I agree with the bottom 6, they will probably be there but not neccessarily in the same order. What did you base your prediction on???

15 then ?