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It would set a precedent. If Perth at the other end of the country can host the Grand Final, then it opens a can of worms in regard to the MCG contractual arrangement without any easy answers available....

Yes, but it is no secret about the politics of the extension of the Grand Final deal. The deal is quite literally with the Victorian government.

This is not breaking news or a conspiracy theory, it's all out in the open.

As it is with the Vic government, if the MCG cannot host the GF (let's assume there's a structural issue or something), then it would go to Marvel, and then maybe to Ballarat and so on and so forth. All of this is known.

I also do not believe that Perth will receive the Grand Final (more on that in a moment), but it is not because it will set a precedent.

The AFL can make a good case for a one year exemption due to the pandemic. The Vic government will get something back from that - maybe an extra year on the end of the agreement or (more likely) a relief in some of the $225m which Victorians will pay to upgrade the area around Marvel. It is very easy to make that contractual arrangement given the circumstances as money for public works like this will be hard to find for some time.

It's true that Vics do feel like it is a god given right to host the GF, but it is also worth noting that we are going to pay for the privilege too. Did WA bid for the GF? Like, even for 1 GF out of every 5 or something? Maybe people should have got smart, not angry, and lobbied the WA government.

If anything, I think the biggest factor FOR Perth and Adelaide this year would be that it solves a long running gripe from non-Victorian clubs. The AFL could easily say 'sure, here you go, have a GF' - not a big trade off when it is increasingly unlikely they can't make money out of an empty stadium in Victoria anyway. The AFL can dine out on that for, I'd say, 10-15 years by saying 'Look, remember when we gave you that GF? You can't imagine how hard it was to get out of that contract for a year...but we did it because we love you. Now STFU because, unless there is another pandemic, the contract is the contract.'

I don't believe that Perth will get the GF for two reasons. Firstly, because the WA government hasn't been too helpful with keeping the season going. That's ok, the premier should prioritise health of his citizens in a time like this, but you can't expect too much in return when you play hard ball.

Qld has been more than helpful throughout. And, equally as important - it's a non-football state. I'd love for football heartlands to be rewarded (ie, a team in Tasmania before Gold Coast and GWS), but that's not how the AFL work. They won't add one more new fan to Australian football by putting a team in Tasmania, but they will by putting one on the Gold Coast. And they won't add one more viewer to a Perth GF, but they will if it is in Brisbane. I don't like it, but it's true.

The suggestion that the AFL would cancel the GF instead of giving it to Perth is nuts. They do have some sense of responsibility to the game. More to making money, of course, but by killing the GF they will be killing revenue too.
 
Hopefully it’s the last straw that breaks the camels back. The last MCG deal was brokered Vic clubs, the afl and the Vic Government behind the back of 8 clubs. That’s a farce

Exactly. Every state should get some of that Victorian Government cash.


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1 The greatest risk is to take no risk — and Mark McGowan should take the risk and bring the AFL grand final to Perth. The AFL has an appetite to bring it to a footy State and a footy venue — but they can’t do it unless the Premier shows some flexibility on the borders. Yes, health and safety comes first, but we already know 30,000 people have entered WA since April. So let’s allow a few more thousand in October and seize this once-in-a-lifetime opportunity.


 
How much is Vic paying per year in the big contract?

All up I think it is about $525 million from Victorian Government.

-$225 million for Marvel redevelopment
- Extra money for clubs who are needing extra facilities for their AFLW programs
- MCC to renovate the Southern Stand at MCG at their own cost.
 
1 The greatest risk is to take no risk — and Mark McGowan should take the risk and bring the AFL grand final to Perth. The AFL has an appetite to bring it to a footy State and a footy venue — but they can’t do it unless the Premier shows some flexibility on the borders. Yes, health and safety comes first, but we already know 30,000 people have entered WA since April. So let’s allow a few more thousand in October and seize this once-in-a-lifetime opportunity.


Totally agree.

The next time the GF may be up for grabs is in 37 years time...
 
All up I think it is about $525 million from Victorian Government.

-$225 million for Marvel redevelopment
- Extra money for clubs who are needing extra facilities for their AFLW programs
- MCC to renovate the Southern Stand at MCG at their own cost.

so a contract that favours the vic teams by location of grand final and The money from the contract then also favours only vic teams. I thought there was also money for grassroots Victorian football [emoji18]

Love those Big Vic coloured glasses. Never one to care for others
 
How much is Vic paying per year in the big contract?


All up I think it is about $525 million from Victorian Government.

-$225 million for Marvel redevelopment
- Extra money for clubs who are needing extra facilities for their AFLW programs
- MCC to renovate the Southern Stand at MCG at their own cost.

Yeah, $225m seems to be the quoted number but the government doesn't pay that to the AFL, it's infrastructure and upgrades around Marvel. Which, I guess is like the local council re-doing the road in front of your house, giving you your own traffic light, dedicated undercover car park for your visitors etc etc :) so maybe it is the same thing. Although, it should be noted that, for those who don't know, Marvel is surrounded by large companies (BP, Channel 9, Medicare, the ATO), Southern Cross train station and apartments etc. So, not just AFL who is benefitting.
 
1 The greatest risk is to take no risk — and Mark McGowan should take the risk and bring the AFL grand final to Perth. The AFL has an appetite to bring it to a footy State and a footy venue — but they can’t do it unless the Premier shows some flexibility on the borders. Yes, health and safety comes first, but we already know 30,000 people have entered WA since April. So let’s allow a few more thousand in October and seize this once-in-a-lifetime opportunity.


Yes, people will speak about the Port vs Brisbane GF in Perth for years to come. Biggest thing to hit our state since Eric Edgar Cooke.
 
I have it on good authority you might hear a couple of Eagles mention this article on an upcoming podcast. And it started with you posting it here. Nice work 👍
Just came on to post this. What a wonderful podcast. Really great discussion and both Will and Oscar are both very entertaining and interesting.
 

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The podcast was a good listen. They both mentioned x oneil was playing really well in the scrimmage games and must be very close which was interesting

Was interesting hearing Schoeys take on the Ballantyne after the siren kick since he was there on the goal line and what him and EMac were trying to do.

Having rewatched it can definitely say Naitanui got hands to it so Schoeys is wrong there
 
Was interesting hearing Schoeys take on the Ballantyne after the siren kick since he was there on the goal line and what him and EMac were trying to do.

Having rewatched it can definitely say Naitanui got hands to it so Schoeys is wrong there

Speaking of Ballaz I just heard on the half time broadcast that The West are running an article tomorrow about him asking Lyon if he could take out Gaff, assuming this was in the Derby following 'the incident'.
 
Speaking of Ballaz I just heard on the half time broadcast that The West are running an article tomorrow about him asking Lyon if he could take out Gaff, assuming this was in the Derby following 'the incident'.


Honestly, would expect something like that to happen.
We would have wanted blood and probably praised anyone that tried to even the score.
 

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Speaking of Ballaz I just heard on the half time broadcast that The West are running an article tomorrow about him asking Lyon if he could take out Gaff, assuming this was in the Derby following 'the incident'.

Him and Johnson tried in that last quarter.

One of the best images from that day was Darling breaking up the fight and picking up Ballantyne like he weighed nothing
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Him and Johnson tried in that last quarter.

One of the best images from that day was Darling breaking up the fight and picking up Ballantyne like he weighed nothing
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How emasculating, your family sees you get treated like a petulant child
 
Honestly, would expect something like that to happen.
We would have wanted blood and probably praised anyone that tried to even the score.
It was pretty surreal in hindsight.

Gaffy going out and taking his medicine at the hands of the Freo boys.

Andrew Gaff, of all people, being responsible for probably the worst incident I have ever seen live.

Gaff going back and slotting that goal and looking like he wanted to crawl under a rock while the crowd went ballistic.

If a near 200 game veteran for Freo (any side actually) belted one of our up and coming kids and knocked half his teeth out we would be enraged.

I think it shows the professionalism of the league these days that all parties seem to have been able to move past the incident. In the old days it feels like whole careers were spent trying to square the ledger back and forth with ugly hits.
 
A review of the derby by Titus O'Reily.

Fremantle (32) v West Coast (62)

Western Australia are just showing off with their ‘crowds’ and ‘people having fun together’.

Imagine being able to go to the footy, surrounded by other fans, buying an outrageously expensive beer and savouring that awful taste as the mid-strength monstrosity hits your lips.

I miss it so much.

There are two things I miss in the lockdown, going to the footy and going to the pub. This has taught me that I like to drink alone, but with other people around.

Fremantle made history in this game, being the first team in a derby to not score in a quarter. It’s probably the highlight of the season for them.

Not scoring in a quarter in AFL is actually quite hard to do, but the Dockers made it look effortless.

Adding to the Dockers pain, this was the tenth loss in a row to the Eagles, and based on this, getting to eleven losses seems assured.

The Eagles have now righted the ship after a horrible start, and now sit in the eight.

Let’s hope all of us can turn our year around like the Eagles have.
 

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