Discussion Is there anything more pointless and distracting than watermarks on a jumper?

[Mero]

The Lions jumper seems to be getting worse.
By that, I mean the distracting watermarks are more noticeable than ever.
I thought the watermark was supposed to signify a legit jumper.
But then they just go and print them on anyway.

 

[caloschwaby]

There's certainly a fine lion between anti-fake watermarks and making your guernsey look like an unauthentic version of computer software.




That is a line that Brisbane has crossed.

 

[fumbler]

The Lions jumper seems to be getting worse.
By that, I mean the distracting watermarks are more noticeable than ever.
I thought the watermark was supposed to signify a legit jumper.
But then they just go an print them on anyway.

But but we original lion.....

 

[magpienato]

There is...

 

[Andonis1997]

The Lions jumper seems to be getting worse.
By that, I mean the distracting watermarks are more noticeable than ever.
I thought the watermark was supposed to signify a legit jumper.
But then they just go an print them on anyway.

I remember when watermarks used to be seen when light sources shone on it a certain way. And they were 3D.

This is just lazy, all stemming from KooGa/BLK. Puma did it right years ago, and then because KooGa saw it as a 'design element' they started printing it.

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'Distracting' in the title indicates that it is noticeable and people actual care about it..

 

[Freight Train]

Puma used to do it so well for West Coast, even up to recent years where the watermark was just that - a super opaque print over the top of player issues that could only really be seen up close to the guernsey.

These days it's gotten out of hand how bad they can get.

 

[Gibbsy]

IMO it is no longer a 'watermark' when it is cut off by the AFL and sponsors logos. As the old Puma ones were literally fabric watermarks (I can't recall how that's done production-wise), there were no cut-offs

 

[caloschwaby]

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What does this photo even mean? Why is it just St. Kilda and North Melbourne? Who are those extra circus-type people?

 

[magpienato]

What does this photo even mean? Why is it just St. Kilda and North Melbourne? Who are those extra circus-type people?

It's X-citing I guess

 

[Fizzler]

Puma used to do it so well for West Coast, even up to recent years where the watermark was just that - a super opaque print over the top of player issues that could only really be seen up close to the guernsey.

These days it's gotten out of hand how bad they can get.

You’re right, it ends up being a design feature how it is for them now. North had it pretty good with their embossed logo

Even now, the retro logos is cool. At least they’re not repeating a logo that’s already the main design feature.

 

[fumbler]

It's X-citing I guess

Ball is red not silver????

 

[Fizzler]

Ball is red not silver????

It's actually pink now

 

[FXD_]

Puma switched from embossed watermarks to sublimated ones in 2000. Even then, they printed them light enough that they could barely be seen, which is what you want. BLK/Majestic have lost the plot.

Look at Richmond 2017/2018. No one’s complaining about those watermarks.

 

[Sparkle]

Look at Richmond 2017/2018. No one’s complaining about those watermarks.

Did Richmond have watermarks? Hadn't even noticed (which is exactly what you want). On the Brisbane jumper though, I saw it in person at Rebel and compared to the other jumpers in the store, it is awful with the watermarks. They're so obvious that it ends up taking points off an overall classy and timeless design. North have watermarks this year, but they were hardly noticeable compared to the Lions

 

[exile]

they're ******* s**t

 

[CALL ME SNAKE]

I look at the FJ&GD thread alot.
But im a bit like a dirty old man perving at a Net Ball game. I just hide behind the bushes and dont say anything but i watch intensely .
But ive gotta speak up here.

Those watermarks look faaaarrking stupid.

Anyway ill go back behind the bushes now

 

[magpienato]

I look at the FJ&GD thread alot.
But im a bit like a dirty old man perving at a Net Ball game. I just hide behind the bushes and dont say anything but i watch intensely .

Anyway ill go back behind the bushes now\

Should I call they police guys?

 

[FXD_]

Did Richmond have watermarks? Hadn't even noticed (which is exactly what you want).

Exactly. They were also fairly subtle on the West Coast Puma guernseys.

 

[caloschwaby]

Pardon if this sounds like a stupid questions but how does the watermarks make it hard to fake? Why wouldn't anybody trying to sell a framed fakie or something for a lot of money would take good care in ensuring these watermarks are there?

 

[El_Scorcho]

Yeah the Brisbane ones are absolutely horrendous.

Watermarks work if it's some light embossing so that it's only noticeable up close. That's just a printed design feature interfering with one of the better kits in the AFL.

 

[Mero]

Pardon if this sounds like a stupid questions but how does the watermarks make it hard to fake? Why wouldn't anybody trying to sell a framed fakie or something for a lot of money would take good care in ensuring these watermarks are there?

Nothing. And that's what I'm saying, they are not only hideous, but also pointless.

 

[Prison bar Pete]

You should have to hold the jumper up to the light to see the watermark

 

[sjohnson]

Imagine if Port finally got their prison bars only for them to have watermarks over them hah. They looked alright on WC because you couldn't really see them, but they just look ridiculous on Brisbane.

 

[Andonis1997]

Imagine if Port finally got their prison bars only for them to have watermarks over them hah. They looked alright on WC because you couldn't really see them, but they just look ridiculous on Brisbane.

Port never use watermarks, Crows are the only ones out of the ISC teams, which carried on from BLK (which originated from Puma....)

 

[sjohnson]

Port never use watermarks, Crows are the only ones out of the ISC teams, which carried on from BLK (which originated from Puma....)

Yeah yeah I know, I was just thinking of the outrage that would ensue if they adopted them. Also the Crows' 2017 watermarks were horrendous - not on Brisbane's level of bad though