Mid East Israel declare war after Hamas attack III

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Continued in Part IV

Mid East - Israel declare war after Hamas attack IV - UN Report: Israel is an Apartheid state. Probable Case of Genocide

Continued from Part III https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/israel-declare-war-after-hamas-attack-iii.1381570/ Original Post, October 7, 2023: Israel declares state of war In response to the attacks, which appear to have caught the Israel Defence Forces (IDF) by surprise, Israel has...

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[SaintsSeptember]

A guy who used to be my boss is probably the Jew i know the best.
His family were in Europe before WWII and got the hell out of dodge.
When Chile started to turn bad, they got bad vibes and moved in a hurry.
They spent some transit years in Israel, but didn't like it there. ( Who'd have thunk it ).
They then came to Australia when my boss was at a young age.

I don't think he's terribly devout but with the surname he's got he probably can't escape it. Probably went to Jewish events for family reasons.
He was a manager for a German owned country , and being able to speak German seemed to get on well with them, and enjoyed junkets to Germany.
I can remember a conversation about jewish west bank settlements, and his comment was "its outrageous".
Equally outrageous is the concept that his point of view was colored by some Jewish Group think.

Most Jews in Australia were born in Australia.

One could argue than most of them don't want to kill all the Arabs in Gaza. Though i don't have evidence, i think i'd go for the innocent argument until proven otherwise.
Or one could make up stuff without statistical evidence.

I'd also expect that all Muslims are not Isis flag waving terrorists.

 

[SaintsSeptember]

Then the musicians need to form into a union...

There is power in numbers fighting the good fight.

Where is Bono.? Where is Geldorf.? Where is Paul McCartney.?


All of them, who's silence is condemning.!!!

 

[Markfs]

A guy who used to be my boss is probably the Jew i know the best.
His family were in Europe before WWII and got the hell out of dodge.
When Chile started to turn bad, they got bad vibes and moved in a hurry.
They spent some transit years in Israel, but didn't like it there. ( Who'd have thunk it ).
They then came to Australia when my boss was at a young age.

I don't think he's terribly devout but with the surname he's got he probably can't escape it. Probably went to Jewish events for family reasons.
He was a manager for a German owned country , and being able to speak German seemed to get on well with them, and enjoyed junkets to Germany.
I can remember a conversation about jewish west bank settlements, and his comment was "its outrageous".
Equally outrageous is the concept that his point of view was colored by some Jewish Group think.

Most Jews in Australia were born in Australia.

One could argue than most of them don't want to kill all the Arabs in Gaza. Though i don't have evidence, i think i'd go for the innocent argument until proven otherwise.
Or one could make up stuff without statistical evidence.

I'd also expect that all Muslims are not Isis flag waving terrorists.

i wonder who funds the australian-based organisations that support israel....AJA. AIJA, ECAJ, ZFA....in fact its easier to mention the jewish council of australia which was founded a year ago by a bunch of academics as an organisation that doesnt support israel.....

 

[Not Important]

his, writ large.

 

[Not Important]

thankyou nicola. but you could have helped save thousands had you and the many spoken out long ago - like louise adler, for instance.

“I’m horrified by the never-ending war in Gaza, by the abandonment of the hostages, by the continued killing of innocent people, and by the complete lack of political vision … I must resist in every way I can to bring this war to an end.” He is among 300 such soldiers who have refused to serve”

https://archive.md/PxLOb

 

[Not Important]

precisely! the zioinst lobby will hopefully pay a price for their deception.

Mr Denmore (@mrdenmore.bsky.social)

Let’s speak frankly. The Zionists are doing to the Palestinians exactly what the Nazis did to the Jews. But Western politicians, trying to atone for appeasing Hitler and terrified by the ‘anti-semitism’ slur, just wave the genocide on through.Thats really what’s going on here.

bsky.app

 

[Not Important]

the irish are showing the way again.

 

[Not Important]

Simon Rosenberg (@simonrosenberg.bsky.social)

"there is an urgent need to stop the genocide and allow the unconditional entry of aid. It is only through distribution by UN agencies and the international community – not Israel – that we will begin to alleviate this crisis" World leaders must reject Israel's stunt and ensure UN aid reaches...

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I’ve seen the reality of the new Israel-backed ‘aid’ for Gaza. It’s nothing more than a deadly PR stunt | Eyad Amawi

As an aid worker, I despaired at news of Israeli troops opening fire on people seeking food. This is no answer to our suffering, says Eyad Amawi of the Gaza Relief Committee

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[carltonchelsea]

“If you repeat the lie often enough, eventually you become Israel”.
@Stop-and-listen

 

[Markfs]

Haaretz...

 

[SaintsSeptember]

i wonder who funds the australian-based organisations that support israel....AJA. AIJA, ECAJ, ZFA....in fact its easier to mention the jewish council of australia which was founded a year ago by a bunch of academics as an organisation that doesnt support israel.....

"Some Jews probably do ( i'm guessing ) , just like some Muslims supported Isis ".
Are you insinuating they all do? Maybe a majority?
Any chance of some evidence?

 

[Markfs]

"Some Jews probably do ( i'm guessing ) , just like some Muslims supported Isis ".
Are you insinuating they all do? Maybe a majority?
Any chance of some evidence?

You choose to think that "some do". I was merely pointing out that the majority of jewish organisations actively support israel. And I presume that they are funded and staffed by jewish people. You can ignore that and rely on your feelings... .

 

[Markfs]

Australian Jews retain a strong baseline identification with Israel, with 90% agreeing that it is important that the Australian Jewish community maintains close ties with Israel.

Crossroads23: Australian Jews on Israel - The Jewish Independent

Survey produced by TJI (formerly The Jewish Independent), with data analysed and reported by Emeritus Professor Andrew Markus from Monash University

thejewishindependent.com.au

 

[Markfs]

"Some Jews probably do ( i'm guessing ) , just like some Muslims supported Isis ".
Are you insinuating they all do? Maybe a majority?
Any chance of some evidence?

Read it with your rose coloured glasses ..

Australian Jews support Israel, but what that means varies - The Jewish Independent

New analysis from Crossroads23 shows politically progressive Jews are less concerned about security and more worried about anti-democratic trends in Israel.

thejewishindependent.com.au

 

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[Markfs]

I've been supporting doctors without borders for a number of years. This is the first time that they have sent me a message asking for me to sign a petition. They normally like to keep a low political profile so that they can get into zones where people need help.

Sign the petition now please...

https://msf.org.au/subscribe/protect-people-gaza-now

 

[SaintsSeptember]

You choose to think that "some do". I was merely pointing out that the majority of jewish organisations actively support israel. And I presume that they are funded and staffed by jewish people. You can ignore that and rely on your feelings... .

Are the majority of Jews in a Jewish organization? I'm not in an "Australian" organization. I can't imagine how boring meetings would be at those sort of organizations. Mind you, when my dad was young he was in an Apex club, but i'm sure he wasn't in the Apex gang.
The majority of neo-nazi organizations are probably staffed by Neo Nazi-s as well.
Nothing very startling in your posts.

 

[Markfs]

Are the majority of Jews in a Jewish organization? I'm not in an "Australian" organization. I can't imagine how boring meetings would be at those sort of organizations. Mind you, when my dad was young he was in an Apex club, but i'm sure he wasn't in the Apex gang.
The majority of neo-nazi organizations are probably staffed by Neo Nazi-s as well.
Nothing very startling in your posts.

If you were a long way away from home, you might join together and advocate for your homeland...

 

[SugarHealey]

It's about time Israel went after their true offender... rather than killing innocents.

This IF true, would be the first gutsy thing netanyahu has Ever done.! Getting after Iran.

IF Iran are using proxy's, then don't go killing innocents, Via shooting proxy soldiers.
Get after the main men.

Just like drug kingpins, don't kill the Mules... get after the King Pins, and kill them.

If you country is being attacked by Cocaine... from the Colombian drug barons... then go after that nation, and destroy the Drug Cartels in they're home ground.

 

[SugarHealey]

Good news for soon to be israeli citizens who are currently living in the USA - free real estate and subsidised income.....and a tax-free status...

The prelude to fully taking over Gaza, in netanyahu's & trumps visions.

It's not Trump's idea, its netanyahu's.

The demolition of all infrastructure across Gaza is the giveaway of this intent... as was the virtual invitation to Hamas to attack Israel, that happened on Oct 7th.

Collateral damage of Israeli's lives... so that netanyahu's government and backers could have they're way, and declare War on Gaza.

This gave netanyahu all the tools he needed, to destroy all infrastructure and kill all those he wanted to kill, in order to fulfill his desires.
And allowed netanyahu to hold onto power, within Israel.

 

[schneebly111]

This IF true, would be the first gutsy thing netanyahu has Ever done.! Getting after Iran.

Which is why it’ll never happen.

Last year Israel attacked Iran in a one night operation. The Israelis claimed they basically took out Iran entire air defence network in 1 night, along with command and nuclear weapons facilities. After telling Iran where they were going to strike.

There’s zero external evidence they did so, and given the history of air combat ops it’s unlikely they did (After years of trying the entire U.S. military could never fully overcome North Vietnamese air defences, or Serbian, and took a month of massive attacks to take out comparatively smaller Iraqi air defences. Russian bombing can’t overcome weaker Ukrainian air defences after 3 years).

So if Israeli went on a full campaign against Iranian air defences and then their full nuclear capability buried in underground bunkers and protected by layers of SAMs they would at least need weeks of sustained, overwhelming air attacks. This would easily shut down Middle eastern airspace, a crucial component of the world economy. And then even more so invite Iran to its most simple retaliation- mine the Strait of Hormuz. No insurance company will allow any tanker through the Strait, and 40% of the world’s energy originates there. Overnight Great Depression 2.0.

The other factor people aren’t considering is China. Iran is a key BRI member, and China doesn’t want to see another U.S. backed conflict disrupt their BRI routes. Wouldn’t be surprised if behind the scenes Chinese SAMs are being used by Tehran.

 

[Markfs]

The prelude to fully taking over Gaza, in netanyahu's & trumps visions.

It's not Trump's idea, its netanyahu's.

The demolition of all infrastructure across Gaza is the giveaway of this intent... as was the virtual invitation to Hamas to attack Israel, that happened on Oct 7th.

Collateral damage of Israeli's lives... so that netanyahu's government and backers could have they're way, and declare War on Gaza.

This gave netanyahu all the tools he needed, to destroy all infrastructure and kill all those he wanted to kill, in order to fulfill his desires.
And allowed netanyahu to hold onto power, within Israel.

well its the vision of 80% of people in israel. Its the vision of the promised land in judaism. The people who originally established israel after WW2 were always going to try to take over the west bank...Its a plan decades in the making....millennia in the making

 

[Johnny_Dogg4]

It's about time Israel went after their true offender... rather than killing innocents.

This IF true, would be the first gutsy thing netanyahu has Ever done.! Getting after Iran.

IF Iran are using proxy's, then don't go killing innocents, Via shooting proxy soldiers.
Get after the main men.

Just like drug kingpins, don't kill the Mules... get after the King Pins, and kill them.

If you country is being attacked by Cocaine... from the Colombian drug barons... then go after that nation, and destroy the Drug Cartels in they're home ground.

ive got a feeling this war is going to be massive

 

[SaintsSeptember]

If you were a long way away from home, you might join together and advocate for your homeland...

Most Australian Jews are home.

 

[SaintsSeptember]

ive got a feeling this war is going to be massive

If both nations blew themselves off the planet, my main concern would be for their Neighbours copping fallout.