J-Pod

[Notorious_29]

If he comes cheap he would be a perfect fit, deep full forward marking target.

 

[strobe00]

No doubt in my mind without Pav, Sandi and to a lesser extent McPharlin we don't win our first away final. Pav and Sandi were very influential. JPod isn't going to replace Pav's influence in the finals (should Pav be injured), i don't think he compliments Pav all that well, both apply minimal defensive pressure.

You've got to be kidding if you don't think a smart, fit, flexible forward that can play deep (or high), is a very good contested mark and typically a good kick... wouldn't complement our smart, fit, relatively short skipper (who isn't a very good overhead mark, but terrific on the lead and in open space).

Pav isn't a great overhead mark. Pods certainly is. Pods can play high (and has all throughout the year) and can even play in the back line. If you want a foil for Pav, then Pods is a terrific fit. We won't get more than a couple of years out of him, but Hannath (mobility), Clarke (forward smarts), Taberner (weight and aggression), Silvagni (size, forward smarts, disposal) and Smith (wrong end) are all inferior at this point in time. None of those guys will come close to what Pods will be able to deliver this coming season.

And if Pav does go missing injured, then we've got a genuine KPF to step into that spot, while we bring in fill-ins (and apart from Kep, that's what we have) for the other spot.

To me, Pods is just about the definition of a complimentary forward for Pav.

 

[strobe00]

When it comes down to it, in 12 months time i can't see how Podsiadly will offer more than what we already have on the list. Griffin, Keplar, Taberner, Smith etc may be just as effective. But opinions are like arseholes, everyone's got one.I'd prefer to take a punt on a VFL/WAFL/SANFL star who's mid 20's than a 33? year old Podsiadly.

What about the start of next season? Those guys might be as effective as what Pods could offer at the start of season 2015, but what about the start of season 2014?

Griff is a ruckman, Kep is a good leading forward but a cr@p overhead mark, Tabs is a young, promising running forward who is a few seasons short of reaching the weight he needs to be at and Smith is a replacement for McPharlin. Kep is the only genuine forward of the entire bunch, and he struggles to take a contested mark.

But you'd rather take a punt on a guy that has zero exposed form at AFL level, so we can be in better shape for season 2015, when Pav, Sandi and McPharlin are all a year older? It just doesn't make sense to me.

If we get a kid like McCarthy this draft, and he and Tabs develop in the seconds with guys like Pods and Pav developing them during training (and maybe the odd game)... then we've got a season or two with a two legitimate KPFs on the field (Pods and Pav), and (if we're really lucky) two young KPFs ready to step up when those guys retire.

Tabs' games this year showed how far off AFL level he is. He got absolutely munched. He'll get better. But he won't be at the standard he needs to be from the start of next year. There is too much on the line to be developing a tall on the field during regular season games, and Keps is our only other legit ready-to-go KPF. Why would you not take Pods?

 

[rgauci]

What about the start of next season? Those guys might be as effective as what Pods could offer at the start of season 2015, but what about the start of season 2014?

Griff is a ruckman, Kep is a good leading forward but a cr@p overhead mark, Tabs is a young, promising running forward who is a few seasons short of reaching the weight he needs to be at and Smith is a replacement for McPharlin. Kep is the only genuine forward of the entire bunch, and he struggles to take a contested mark.

But you'd rather take a punt on a guy that has zero exposed form at AFL level, so we can be in better shape for season 2015, when Pav, Sandi and McPharlin are all a year older? It just doesn't make sense to me.

If we get a kid like McCarthy this draft, and he and Tabs develop in the seconds with guys like Pods and Pav developing them during training (and maybe the odd game)... then we've got a season or two with a two legitimate KPFs on the field (Pods and Pav), and (if we're really lucky) two young KPFs ready to step up when those guys retire.

Tabs' games this year showed how far off AFL level he is. He got absolutely munched. He'll get better. But he won't be at the standard he needs to be from the start of next year. There is too much on the line to be developing a tall on the field during regular season games, and Keps is our only other legit ready-to-go KPF. Why would you not take Pods?

I see what your saying, perhaps a rookie spot / development coach role. I don't think our gameplan will hold up with McPharlin, Dawson, Johnson, Pavlich, JPod, Sandi, Clarke. I think it makes us too tall and limits our run. I guess without trying we won't know. Did Taberner ever play along side Pavlich? Or Silvagni? Or Hannath (with both Clarke/Sandi)? I can't recall.

 

[Righteo]

He was one out against Dawson for most of the game, which is sadly Zac's biggest weakness. Furthermore, Podsiadly kicked exactly zero goals over his next two games, games which Geelong had a better chance of winning.

If one on one defending is Dawson's weakness then he has no strengths.

 

[Wigarus]

Nobody seems to be saying that Podsiadly is the great white hope but imo he is a lot better stop gap than the ones we have been using and he wold be free.

He is a premiership forward with coaching experience that even when not playing could be very handy.


It is 100% Win Win.

 

[arrow_dactyl]

I see what your saying, perhaps a rookie spot / development coach role. I don't think our gameplan will hold up with McPharlin, Dawson, Johnson, Pavlich, JPod, Sandi, Clarke. I think it makes us too tall and limits our run. I guess without trying we won't know. Did Taberner ever play along side Pavlich? Or Silvagni? Or Hannath (with both Clarke/Sandi)? I can't recall.

Taberner only played alongside Pav once and that was in the last game of the season, where we didn't have anyone else playing. His other 3 games were against the Kangas at Subi, without Pav or Sandilands, in the wet, and he didn't play that well, against Geelong, where the team got dominated and against Adelaide at home, where he did nothing. From what i've seen the biggest problem is that he doesn't have the desperation of the rest of the team, he didn't seem to chase to often especially when the game wasn't going his way

 

[strobe00]

I see what your saying, perhaps a rookie spot / development coach role. I don't think our gameplan will hold up with McPharlin, Dawson, Johnson, Pavlich, JPod, Sandi, Clarke. I think it makes us too tall and limits our run. I guess without trying we won't know. Did Taberner ever play along side Pavlich? Or Silvagni? Or Hannath (with both Clarke/Sandi)? I can't recall.

I think having the three tall defenders leaves us with a very good structure, as Macca and MJ can play tall or small, and can man-up talls or mids... or float free, and rebound. I wouldn't touch that combination at all.

As for the ruck/KPF set-up... we've been playing with Pav, Mayne, Sandi and Clarke as our talls/rucks.

• If we shift De Boer out of the forward line and give the defensive forward spot to Mayne, that'll give us a spot for Pods... and a much more dangerous defensive forward. We lose De Boer's pressure, but we have a genuine, deep focal point and another guy who knows how a forward line should run. (tall forwards... Pav, Pods and Clarke)
• If we push Clarke out of the team and bring in Kep, we have Pav and Kep as our keys, with Mayne becoming a key when Sandi rests forward. Potentially a viable option, but our forward line lacks a genuine contested mark except when Sandi rests down there (and our clearances start getting munched as Kep will be rucking). Also may run the risk of Sandi blowing up under all the workload. (tall forwards... Pav, Kep and Mayne)

If it's a choice of a structure that has Pav, Clarke and Sandi all in the same team... then if the third tall isn't Mayne, then I'd rather the extra be Pods than Kep... and let Clarke roam around up the field as he seemed to be doing at stages at the end of the season.

Clarke has improved his contested marking, but he still hasn't shown the forward smarts or the contested marking up forward, to suggest he's ready to make the step up as a KPF. He could be valuable as a roaming player that can add a number to the midfield, create a mismatch in a marking contest on the wing, and run forward into open space (or draw a defender away from it) on the rebound. That's why I think Pav's KPF partner is a choice between Kep, Mayne and Pods... and of that lot I like Pods (with Mayne pushing MDB out of the forward line, and Kep as back-up for Pav/Pods).

 

[strobe00]

Did Taberner ever play along side Pavlich? Or Silvagni? Or Hannath (with both Clarke/Sandi)? I can't recall.

I'm not sure about the first. It rings a bell but I can't remember when. Maybe against the Hawks when we got flogged in Tassie?

I'm pretty sure it was Tabs and Hannath that were our keys when the Cats absolutely destroyed us at Simonds during the regular season. Taylor and Mackie (?) just ignored them and ran around as they pleased. Our midfield didn't help, but the Cats could zone off and roll off at will as neither Tabs nor Hannath represented much of a scoring threat.

Not sure about the other combinations.

 

[apuchar]

From what I can gather (if wrong please tell) Taberner is Nick Reiwoldt type, hard running, roaming fwd who marks everything but is an iffy kick (at this stage).

So he would essentially be Mayne but taller. Which is fine, but he and Pods are very different. Pods excellent pack/contested grab, probably one of best in league at that.

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Agree with that darkshines. Different players altogether.

 

[ImperialPurple]

Didn't he just finish Top-10 in the Geelong B&F?

I've got splinters in my butt on this one - totally fence sitting on whether we should or shouldn't...

Leaning more towards no than yes - would explain why there are more splinters in one cheek than the other I guess.

 

[apuchar]

Didn't he just finish Top-10 in the Geelong B&F?

I've got splinters in my butt on this one - totally fence sitting on whether we should or shouldn't...

Leaning more towards no than yes - would explain why there are more splinters in one cheek than the other I guess.

I can understand the straddling. My view for what it is worth is, if we are not successful getting a White or Gumby or the likes then we should try and get JPod. We can't walk away from this trade period without a recognised, proven tall forward support for Pavlich, if we are serious about having another shot at the flag this year.

 

[Simmofreo]

Didn't he just finish Top-10 in the Geelong B&F?

I've got splinters in my butt on this one - totally fence sitting on whether we should or shouldn't...

Leaning more towards no than yes - would explain why there are more splinters in one cheek than the other I guess.

Hey IP, I was fence sitting too then I watched this. Have a look and tell me if that won't be scary alongside Pav, Mayne, ballas and Walters, with Sylvia smashing some from outside 50 too !!!! Snaaaaaap

 

[kp junior]

Hey IP, I was fence sitting too then I watched this. Have a look and tell me if that won't be scary alongside Pav, Mayne, ballas and Walters, with Sylvia smashing some from outside 50 too !!!! Snaaaaaap

he had a lot more hair in a lot of those highlights. No one doubts he used to be a handy player

 

[Rob]

Just another reminder that we'd be getting the 33 year old 2014 version, not the 2011 model.

 

[mike91]

If he comes cheap he would be a perfect fit, deep full forward marking target.

Delisted free agent. Although if we could get him as a rookie, I'd be happy. Depends weather he accepts a rookie wage or not.

 

[mike91]

What about the start of next season? Those guys might be as effective as what Pods could offer at the start of season 2015, but what about the start of season 2014?

Griff is a ruckman, Kep is a good leading forward but a cr@p overhead mark, Tabs is a young, promising running forward who is a few seasons short of reaching the weight he needs to be at and Smith is a replacement for McPharlin. Kep is the only genuine forward of the entire bunch, and he struggles to take a contested mark.

But you'd rather take a punt on a guy that has zero exposed form at AFL level, so we can be in better shape for season 2015, when Pav, Sandi and McPharlin are all a year older? It just doesn't make sense to me.

If we get a kid like McCarthy this draft, and he and Tabs develop in the seconds with guys like Pods and Pav developing them during training (and maybe the odd game)... then we've got a season or two with a two legitimate KPFs on the field (Pods and Pav), and (if we're really lucky) two young KPFs ready to step up when those guys retire.

Tabs' games this year showed how far off AFL level he is. He got absolutely munched. He'll get better. But he won't be at the standard he needs to be from the start of next year. There is too much on the line to be developing a tall on the field during regular season games, and Keps is our only other legit ready-to-go KPF. Why would you not take Pods?

He makes a very good point. I personally don't like Pods nor do I really rate him. But people on here are right, I now agree with them in saying that we need him.

 

[Redgum]

This year he kicked 33 goals. 2012 kicked 35, 2011 kicked 52 and 2010 kicked 49.
You know he will give you in excess of 30 goals, he is a sports scientist, would be good as part of our coaching staff. If you read the Sunday Times ,Peter Bell reckons we should grab him. Would be an instant fix until we find or eventually groom a forward, our premiership window is open now, in few years it my not be as open. Would be a lost opportunity. He would give so much support to Pavlich, Ballantyne, Mayne & Walters----the missing link

 

[mike91]

What about the start of next season? Those guys might be as effective as what Pods could offer at the start of season 2015, but what about the start of season 2014?

Griff is a ruckman, Kep is a good leading forward but a cr@p overhead mark, Tabs is a young, promising running forward who is a few seasons short of reaching the weight he needs to be at and Smith is a replacement for McPharlin. Kep is the only genuine forward of the entire bunch, and he struggles to take a contested mark.

But you'd rather take a punt on a guy that has zero exposed form at AFL level, so we can be in better shape for season 2015, when Pav, Sandi and McPharlin are all a year older? It just doesn't make sense to me.

If we get a kid like McCarthy this draft, and he and Tabs develop in the seconds with guys like Pods and Pav developing them during training (and maybe the odd game)... then we've got a season or two with a two legitimate KPFs on the field (Pods and Pav), and (if we're really lucky) two young KPFs ready to step up when those guys retire.

Tabs' games this year showed how far off AFL level he is. He got absolutely munched. He'll get better. But he won't be at the standard he needs to be from the start of next year. There is too much on the line to be developing a tall on the field during regular season games, and Keps is our only other legit ready-to-go KPF. Why would you not take Pods?

He makes a very good point. I personally don't like Pods nor do I really rate him. But people on here are right, I now agree with them in saying that we need him.

 

[Grape Bear]

Can he teach our forwards to kick straight? Maybe a one year deal to play with a transition into development coach the next?

 

[awaremind]

Cmon bondy lets get it done, it seems so right! And would be great for the lols vs the cats...

 

[Simmofreo]

Pods, Reid, Chapman and White. Lets do it would be scary

 

[rgauci]

All the talk on here as brought me around to the idea of JPod for 12-24 months. Problem is, who do we delist?

 

[freocuz]

All the talk on here as brought me around to the idea of JPod for 12-24 months. Problem is, who do we delist?

I don't think we've got a lot to delist, TBH. I think now it's about trading away some quality to improve our first 2 picks.

 

[Leslie_Chow]

All the talk on here as brought me around to the idea of JPod for 12-24 months. Problem is, who do we delist?

Menagola