Player Watch Jack Lukosius

[Jonts]

There's an alternative universe where we traded for Lukosius last trade period instead of 2024 and we would've had to pay a pick in the 30s/40s

 

[morell]

Injuries happen - but multiple conditioning based injuries all in a row after a collision injury though? Comes out in the pre season and looks no bigger or stronger and plays like a timid school boy? Then another soft tissue injury?

Perhaps not enough evidence for a conviction in a court of law but **** me all things are pointing to someone not taking their football caper seriously enough.

Perhaps acceptable for a talented kid in their first or second year learning the professionalism ropes on minimum chips. Not at all acceptable for the main prize for giving up a dual back to back AA and in turn paying massive numbers over a long time.

My least favourite Port player ATM.

 

[Enviable Tradition]

Chad did say a few weeks back that out he would've kept Marshall as KPF and sent Luko into defence. Still early days for the Marshall transition but so far it's hard to argue with.

I predict that this is what will end up happening anyway.

 

[morell]

I predict that this is what will end up happening anyway.

The problem - and first major red flag for me - was he came out in the media very early on and said he only wants to play forward.

 

[crowpuncher69]

Nah let's get another Dixon-esque forward so we can go back to the dumping it on his head gameplan coz everyone loved that and it worked flipping well ayyyy blokes!!!

Agreed the injuries have been concerned but give the bloke a chance to be used to his strengths. If our coaches can use Georgie, Whitlock & Luko correctly that's a solid forward line.

 

[morell]

Nah let's get another Dixon-esque forward so we can go back to the dumping it on his head gameplan coz everyone loved that and it worked flipping well ayyyy blokes!!!

Agreed the injuries have been concerned but give the bloke a chance to be used to his strengths. If our coaches can use Georgie, Whitlock & Luko correctly that's a solid forward line.

Mate I'd take old washed up carrot stick leg concrete hands Charlie Dixon over Jack Lukatrocious any day of the week and twice on Sundays

I get Dixon went a year or two too long and Hinkley ****ed his career but the revisionist shit on here that has made him out to be a terrible footballer forever is really too much at times.

You reckon Jack will be a 3x Port leading goal kicker, All Australian CHF and lead anything meaningful like say, the league in contested marks any time soon?

 

[The Hobo]

Carr has told people about his plans for Marshall to play defence for over 12 months. Don't think it has anything to do with Bergman moving to the midfield. Not sure where Marshall fits in the defensive puzzle, and it may just be a case of him being depth rather than having a best 23 role, but at least that clarity will come soon.

Just don't know how you play all of Ratugolea, Aliir, Ramm and Marshall in the same team. I actually think Marshall as the third tall defender with two of Ramm, Ratugolea, Aliir and BZT makes most sense.

What I meant is that last season, the only solution we had when a defender got injured, was to move Bergman back. In order to avoid that, he's training up Marshall to be that option - whilst still being an option up forward if needed.

I don't think the plan is to play Rat, Aliir, Ramm, Marshall and BZT - it will be 3. Ramm is still too raw to start in my opinion. Showing great signs, but I don't think we see him play too many games unless we get hit by injury.

Agree with you that Aliir, Rat and one of BZT and Marshall being the next one in (but will depend on how Marshall develops as a defender. Let's not forget Finlayson looked a million dollars for a few weeks in defence).
Ramm is the backup when 2 of the above get injured or perhaps for specific games/roles.

 

[mm23]

There's an alternative universe where we traded for Lukosius last trade period instead of 2024 and we would've had to pay a pick in the 30s/40s

That was never going to happen because Hinkley wanted one last chance to prove us all wrong and Lukosius was his missing piece.

 

[PatientMental]

Considering how slowly slowly theyre going with marshall i wouldnt expect him to be in contention for afl for at least a month of sanfl.

Hes barely even playing a half of footy in a light kick around still.

Bzt has the body of a 75 year old.

So surely aliir, esava and ramm are probably the 3.

 

[Portmagpies36]

Nah let's get another Dixon-esque forward so we can go back to the dumping it on his head gameplan coz everyone loved that and it worked flipping well ayyyy blokes!!!

Agreed the injuries have been concerned but give the bloke a chance to be used to his strengths. If our coaches can use Georgie, Whitlock & Luko correctly that's a solid forward line.

At least Dixon had physical presence, Lukosius has the presence of a nit.

 

[crowpuncher69]

Mate I'd take old washed up carrot stick leg concrete hands Charlie Dixon over Jack Lukatrocious any day of the week and twice on Sundays

I get Dixon went a year or two too long and Hinkley ****ed his career but the revisionist shit on here that has made him out to be a terrible footballer forever is really too much at times.

You reckon Jack will be a 3x Port leading goal kicker, All Australian CHF and lead anything meaningful like say, the league in contested marks any time soon?

I rated Dixon. My point was more that gameplan revolving around 1 big power forward was absolute poopoo'd on by this entire forum for countless years. We are obviously going in a different direction (which i am thankful to see changes) and if we just had a say Ollie Lord (bad example i know) as our primary target and the gameplan revolving around kicking it on his head, everyone would be blowing their lids.

 

[TazD]

I still don’t get how we lost a reigning dual All-Australian with years left on his contract for a player on a bloated contract Gold Coast didn’t want, a spud on a bloated contract who was incapable of top-flight football, and a decent but largely unproven mature age small forward.

How did we end up a first rounder short after all that?

 

[JUSTWORK]

Id be getting him out of the forward 50, leading up the ground and playing as a link up player to use his elite field kicking to deliver inside 50 rather than being a target I50.


If we can use him in that role and get 5-6 I50s a game out of him (which would put in completion leading I50 territory) and 1.5-2 goals a game, that's a massive win for us and puts us in a very strong position this year.

 

[Chewy316]

What I meant is that last season, the only solution we had when a defender got injured, was to move Bergman back. In order to avoid that, he's training up Marshall to be that option - whilst still being an option up forward if needed.

I don't think the plan is to play Rat, Aliir, Ramm, Marshall and BZT - it will be 3. Ramm is still too raw to start in my opinion. Showing great signs, but I don't think we see him play too many games unless we get hit by injury.

Agree with you that Aliir, Rat and one of BZT and Marshall being the next one in (but will depend on how Marshall develops as a defender. Let's not forget Finlayson looked a million dollars for a few weeks in defence).
Ramm is the backup when 2 of the above get injured or perhaps for specific games/roles.

I agree with you regarding the make up of the defence.

But my point regarding Marshall was that Carr has been telling people for over 12 months that he's wanted Marshall to play in defence, going back to a time before they even considered to move Bergman into the midfield. Hence, I do not agree with the notion that Carr is moving Marshall to defence due to anything to do with Bergman.

 

[Chachi]

Of course it is early days, we haven't even played one proper game yet. Marshall has had 2 quarters of match sim.

I mean more in terms that Marshall is a better KPD than Luko.

 

[MrPower]

The thing I hate is that we have 2 senior players and we don't know when they're going to be able to play or in what position. It's unsettling for the team and in particular the young guys. And you can possibly add Bergman into that unsettlement

 

[240volt]

I agree with you regarding the make up of the defence.

But my point regarding Marshall was that Carr has been telling people for over 12 months that he's wanted Marshall to play in defence, going back to a time before they even considered to move Bergman into the midfield. Hence, I do not agree with the notion that Carr is moving Marshall to defence due to anything to do with Bergman.

Yep they might think he’ll fall less on his head playing in defense.
I’ve never seen him as a defender sounds like if the guys we have up front and bring in will mean no place for Todd unless he moves down back.

 

[PortAdelFC1997]

Id be getting him out of the forward 50, leading up the ground and playing as a link up player to use his elite field kicking to deliver inside 50 rather than being a target I50.


If we can use him in that role and get 5-6 I50s a game out of him (which would put in completion leading I50 territory) and 1.5-2 goals a game, that's a massive win for us and puts us in a very strong position this year.

That's how Port should be using Lukosius. Roam around the field and use his foot skills to deliver the ball inside 50 and if in range, have the licence to go for goal. He will never be a crash and bash contested marking forward.

 

[OnTheWagon]

So Rozee needs to look Luko in the eye and give him a spray for hurting his groin?

Injuries happen to a lot of footballers, some more than others and it is quite often through no fault of their own, some players are just more susceptible or have a run of bad luck. We don't even know the extent of this injury, could just be a very minor niggle they don't want to risk so he is good to go in round 1.

some serious overreacting going on here. Luko wasn't even injury prone at the suns, so it's been an unlucky start to his career here but i'm sure he isn't getting injured on purpose and doesn't need to apologise for it.

What use do we have for an unlucky player

 

[philthy05]

Chad did say a few weeks back that out he would've kept Marshall as KPF and sent Luko into defence. Still early days for the Marshall transition but so far it's hard to argue with.

IMO we should keep both as kpf’s, and just draft any one of the many kpd’s that are found from pick 30- rookie draft so often.

I still don’t get how we lost a reigning dual All-Australian with years left on his contract for a player on a bloated contract Gold Coast didn’t want, a spud on a bloated contract who was incapable of top-flight football, and a decent but largely unproven mature age small forward.

How did we end up a first rounder short after all that?

Thanks to a spineless department answering to a board on a leash to afl house with zero fear that the members can affect anything at the club.


Amazing that we not once but twice got fleeced for trades for a kpf that were being publicly admonished and marched out the door by a club well known to be a push over in trade week.

 

[rogerjames]

The problem - and first major red flag for me - was he came out in the media very early on and said he only wants to play forward.

Didn't know that. Plays like an entitled footballer who is happy to let his teammates do the hard work & just appear for the occasional cameo moment. Been dining out on his reasonable foot skills for too long. Start him in the Magpies & when he plays at least 2 hard working games in a row bring him back.

 

[Lefti93]

I have to admit I didn't watch the crows trial last week. Luko seemed to be under some fire from the comments here. I went to the internal the week before, it didn't appear to me Luko was lazy. He was making repeat leads pretty regularly as an outlet. He's not that contested marking guy, but he can still be useful to us if we use him right. Did we overpay for him? Maybe. The injuries thing is annoying, he was durable at GC. Now he comes to us and he's picking up injuries.

 

[Steve Dore]

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[Sewer de Lance]

Since his arrival, Luko has been hampered by a patella fracture (collision), back soreness, calf, shoulder (preseason) & now his groin.

He's fast becoming the most expensive half time orange cutter & boot polisher the club has ever employed.

 

[KanesBurner]

I have to admit I didn't watch the crows trial last week. Luko seemed to be under some fire from the comments here. I went to the internal the week before, it didn't appear to me Luko was lazy. He was making repeat leads pretty regularly as an outlet. He's not that contested marking guy, but he can still be useful to us if we use him right. Did we overpay for him? Maybe. The injuries thing is annoying, he was durable at GC. Now he comes to us and he's picking up injuries.

The thing that I noticed in both of the Trials was that every time Luko got space on his opponent the kick missed him by a mile and regularly favoured the defender. His strength is getting that space, if you kick it badly to him he’s not a 1 v 1 player and won’t look great. He definitely needs to improve there.