Player Watch Jack Lukosius

[Traveling_Power]

Cotton wool for the year. Can he be moved to the LTI list for a mid season draft pick?

and if we add Sinn with Luko also. then we will have 4 picks for the mid-season draft

 

[240volt]

and if we add Sinn with Luko also. then we will have 4 picks for the mid-season draft

These doctors bills will be mounting up.
No insurance company will touch us soon.

 

[raptalia]

How many years left on his contract? It might be worth cutting our losses and getting rid of him. Absolute injury prone plodder.

Contracted until 2030 so there is a way to go.

Geez, the people associated with the 2024 trade period should all be sacked. Davies and Hinkley are gone but others should follow. We lost a two time All Australian defender and inherited an injury prone 'could be' and at the same time lost out on the Draft. That is not Lukosius' fault but those responsible should be weeded out. I am really angry about 2024 as I think it has ****ed our list up.

Around a year ago REH posted a cryptic comment about Parker and Cripps. I wasn't too sure what he was on about at the time but now I am sure.

 

[raptalia]

Cotton wool for the year. Can he be moved to the LTI list for a mid season draft pick?

As posted by another we could have as many as four picks in the MSD. Wouldn't that be something? Not a single pick in the 2025 National Draft but four picks in the 2026 Mid Season Draft ?

 

[davesnothere]

As posted by another we could have as many as four picks in the MSD. Wouldn't that be something? Not a single pick in the 2025 National Draft but four picks in the 2026 Mid Season Draft ?

I’d be surprised if we were to use more than two picks mid year?

There simply isn’t the depth.

Possibly a likely Ruck and the best available forward or midfielder?

A long term view on both?

 

[bomberclifford]

Groin Syndesmosis & Stomach Migraines.
Lethal combination.

Take him to the glue factory. He's done.

 

[Sheeds]

He won't be delisted as some have mentioned. But if he ends up having another poor season (this injury doesn't help) would it be unreasonable for Port to try and renegotiate the existing contract at some point or even ask the question? Would Jack potentially feel I am not giving value for money....I'll take a slight pay cut.

He obviously has no obligation to do that, and Port were the ones stupid enough to give him the deal but some of the Port hierarchy must be thinking WTF were we doing.

 

[RussellEbertHandball]

Not as bad as the Chris Groom for Andrew McLeod

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trade, but looking like ending up farken close.

 

[afl2004]

If Nick Foot was a player

 

[Cosmicwinduptoy24]

He won't be delisted as some have mentioned. But if he ends up having another poor season (this injury doesn't help) would it be unreasonable for Port to try and renegotiate the existing contract at some point or even ask the question? Would Jack potentially feel I am not giving value for money....I'll take a slight pay cut.

He obviously has no obligation to do that, and Port were the ones stupid enough to give him the deal but some of the Port hierarchy must be thinking WTF were we doing.

I’m not across the specifics of AFL player contracts, but I’d be surprised if there wasn’t a variable component of pay built in, where a portion of the salary flexes based on games played or availability.

Would assume there’s a base salary, with a variable component tied to games, performance, or similar triggers.

Happy to be corrected by someone closer to it, but it’s hard to see clubs committing to long-term, high-value deals without some form of protection like that in place.

 

[RussellEbertHandball]

I’m not across the specifics of AFL player contracts, but I’d be surprised if there wasn’t a variable component of pay built in, where a portion of the salary flexes based on games played or availability.

Would assume there’s a base salary, with a variable component tied to games, performance, or similar triggers.

Happy to be corrected by someone closer to it, but it’s hard to see clubs committing to long-term, high-value deals without some form of protection like that in place.

There is both a base and variable components, but player manager's pressure and to a lesser extent lazy clubs who want certainty over the higher paid players, now give the higher paid players just a base payment and if they play finals, those players get standard match payments of around $5k per game. Finals match payments aren't included in the salary cap.

 

[Scodges]

Have the rest of the season off. Do SAS training, take steroids, lose some teeth and get covered in tatts. A few nights a week at the cross keys and Elizabeth tavern to toughen the fk up wouldn’t go australiana. The blonde hair surfie look isn’t doing him any favours either, shave it, real skin head Only then, maybe

 

[Zakk Wylde]

No more porcelain campaigners pls

 

[Portmagpies36]

Contracted until 2030 so there is a way to go.

Geez, the people associated with the 2024 trade period should all be sacked. Davies and Hinkley are gone but others should follow. We lost a two time All Australian defender and inherited an injury prone 'could be' and at the same time lost out on the Draft. That is not Lukosius' fault but those responsible should be weeded out. I am really angry about 2024 as I think it has ****ed our list up.

Around a year ago REH posted a cryptic comment about Parker and Cripps. I wasn't too sure what he was on about at the time but now I am sure.

We recruited Lukosius for his kicking skills yet let Houston walk who’s kicking is elite and was in the form of his career at the time, we will be paying for that disastrous trade for a very very long time.

 

[Portmagpies36]

Not as bad as the Chris Groom for Andrew McLeod trade, but looking like ending up farken close.

At the time McLeod was unproven, we gave up a 2 x AA and a first round draft pick as part of that trade.

 

[240volt]

Have the rest of the season off. Do SAS training, take steroids, lose some teeth and get covered in tatts. A few nights a week at the cross keys and Elizabeth tavern to toughen the fk up wouldn’t go australiana. The blonde hair surfie look isn’t doing him any favours either, shave it, real skin head Only then, maybe

The old Lizzie tavern was a fun place in the late 70s

 

[raptalia]

We recruited Lukosius for his kicking skills yet let Houston walk who’s kicking is elite and was in the form of his career at the time, we will be paying for that disastrous trade for a very very long time.

Yes, we lost out but Houston was always going to walk so we should have made sure we got full value for him. Davies was all over Adelaide radio saying we wanted two first round Draft picks for Dan Houston but when the crunch came we finished up with the steak knives and nothing more.

 

[#Port Patriot#]

Yes, we lost out but Houston was always going to walk so we should have made sure we got full value for him. Davies was all over Adelaide radio saying we wanted two first round Draft picks for Dan Houston but when the crunch came we finished up with the steak knives and nothing more.

Maybe Houston would have stayed if his partner wasn't so hell bent on getting back to Victoria.

And look how that turned out for him.

 

[Coobk001]

lol at this graphic.... We exist to get seduced by highly drafted spuds..... Enter 2022 trade period and Jack Watts MkII, aka Luko.

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Can add Luko now.

Fool's Gold indeed. 4 x Top 10 picks, in fact all lower than pick #4, and all have been disappointing.

 

[Willsy10]

Toumpas, Watts and Trengove didn't cost us much. It's not like we sold the farm for them.

Watts probably could've been handy in our crack in 2020 if it wasn't for that horrendous injury he got in 2019. It was a Trent Hentschel

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like career ender, we obviously couldn't have foreseen that.

Luko is the only one that has cost us a bit.

 

[RussellEbertHandball]

At the time McLeod was unproven, we gave up a 2 x AA and a first round draft pick as part of that trade.

Houston's trade would have been done separately if Collingwood's Noble for GC's pick 13 deal wasn't in play.

As I've written before, we got 2 first round picks out of Collingwood. They gave up GC's pick 13 which came direct to us and their F1 2025 which we told them to send direct to GC, and we got Joe Richards which is a decent trade with Collingwood. Its the GC component of the trade that we got screwed on. The Houston component is irrelevant to how bad the Luko component was.

 

[240volt]

Houston's trade would have been done separately if Collingwood's Noble for GC's pick 13 deal wasn't in play.

As I've written before, we got 2 first round picks out of Collingwood. They gave up GC's pick 13 which came direct to us and their F1 2025 which we told them to send direct to GC, and we got Joe Richards which is a decent trade with Collingwood. Its the GC component of the trade that we got screwed on. The Houston component is irrelevant to how bad the Luko component was.

Yep the Gold Coast side of the deal was shocking.
We should have dealed with both clubs separately.
And to knock back the deal only to accept it the next day after a third round upgrade was laughable.

 

[GremioPower]

All depends who you believe.
A lot on here believe the coach has most of the say and the recruiters basically go along with it.
This is the Hinkley’s list theory.

I see it as the recruiters do their job and recruit with some input from the coach.
The list mangerment manage the list.
If that’s the case than Cripps and co are to blame.

Blame all. Sack accordingly.

 

[Portmagpies36]

Houston's trade would have been done separately if Collingwood's Noble for GC's pick 13 deal wasn't in play.

As I've written before, we got 2 first round picks out of Collingwood. They gave up GC's pick 13 which came direct to us and their F1 2025 which we told them to send direct to GC, and we got Joe Richards which is a decent trade with Collingwood. It’s the GC component of the trade that we got screwed on. The Houston component is irrelevant to how bad the Luko component was.

I fully understand how the trade worked but at the end of the day it was one big trade involving 3 clubs, if we keep Houston none of this happens. He was worth 2 first round picks but we needed class players and we end up with this list instead!
Lukosius terrible
Berry Jury’s out
Atkins that was scandalous
Richards has done quite well but even he was an unproven 25 year old who had played 9 AFL games and was given a 3 year deal.

 

[Willsy10]

If we keep Houston we just go through the same scenario a year later and get even less for him. We clearly didn't need Houston for a push for a flag last year and certainly don't need him now either.

We are much better off long term with Whitlock, Berry, Richards and Moraes

I still think it worked out okay, because Houston wanted to leave, he is 29 in a month so he probably isn't going to be around when we are next in contention and we desperately needed to get some kids in after waxing too many picks in previous years chasing a quick fix for old mate on his last legs.