Jack Riewoldt

[Ando_4]

I guess Jack's not the messiah anymore?
Ludicrously over hyped by many last year and will just have to knuckle down and do the hard yards over the next couple of seasons.
I think he's a chance to play CHB in a couple of years because he's a footballer but I do have genuine concerns about his lack of pace and strength.
Is he a genuine KPP because that's what we needed when we drafted him.
More half forward/back flankers are a dime a dozen, let's hope he can make the transition.
Time will tell. It's still very early days to make too much of a guess.

 

[Rayzorwire]

Dude, are you like, totally finished editing?

There are a few left to manouvre, when we do we can look forward with change, be it for the better or might be the worse, it will be change.

Right...just keep changing and at least we'll have change. I've got it now.

That is one thing you dont like doing, changing, you like to wait and hope things change.

WTF are you rabbiting on about? I'm not backward in suggesting players who should be cut or won't make it, but none of them are in their first couple of years after being drafted.

Its like this magical thing is going to happen and one day after 5 or 6 years, a player that couldnt dispose of it properly when he began, had no smarts, had nothing much more than a cheap price, is going to come out and start nailing targets and we wil emerge as a power.

You mean like Foley? Nobody wanted him because of all the ground he had to make up, even in '06 he had questionable disposal. He worked hard, he improved in all areas, and he and many others disprove your knee-jerk theories of player valuation.

The talk around here is all about development and how we need to change the way we develop our players. But hey, the talk is never about how we have the undevelopables, that cant develop....but then you get a Connors that says i belong, in one game.

Nobody wanted Connors in the draft because of his attitude - he was deemed 'undevelopable' by all other clubs. If he'd continued on with the traits which saw him slip so dramatically in the draft and never played senior football because he was a headcase, people would be whingeing about that selection and forgetting that no selection is without risk.

Reiwoldt has shown more than every other key forward in his draft year with the possible exception of Hawkins, but you want more...a player who doesn't exist.

Right now,the only reason i go to watch is to see, Connors, Polo, Edwards, Brown, Deledio, Thursfield, and a rapidly emerging McGuane. They are 7 players that other clubs would kill for....now why are we do bad when we have 5 from the silk dept in skills and 2 defenders that are feared? You work it out...it might dawn on you.

Because we have too few in the senior player group who play key roles. It's not rocket science, and it has SFA to do with players like Reiwoldt.

Five of the players you mention above have barely played one season of football (or less), and only a buffoon would write that Edwards or Polo have 'silky skills', or that anyone in the AFL 'fears' McGuane or Thursfield.

You've come off your skateboard head first far too many times California, but you are a character.

 

[The Rusty Trombone]

Reiwoldt needs to do something with the ball when he gets it. I have no problems with the coaching staff getting as many games into any first round draft picks as possible. I hope he plays 15 games this year. I'd just like to see him lead and take marks within reach of goals so he can have a shot and if he is out of range I'd like to see him hit a target , not turn it over. I think with the hands in the back rule we should play as tall as we can in the forward line this year and bang it in fast and high. Reiwoldt would be in my plans for seniors all year even if he comes off the bench.

Can he concentrate on his disposal, can he adapt to the pace of the game, Is that too much to ask.

 

[Anti-pow]

know all know f**k all TIGER03 mr football lol

i thought it was a pretty good summary !!

 

[heartbroken]

Unfortunantly, neither young Jack, Schulz or Hughes (nor any other young tall forward) will shine in the side until after Richo retires.

Richo is a great player but his presence within the arc is so big that there is no room left for any other tall player in that space.

 

[krustyman]

Unfortunantly, neither young Jack, Schulz or Hughes (nor any other young tall forward) will shine in the side until after Richo retires.

Richo is a great player but his presence within the arc is so big that there is no room left for any other tall player in that space.

not true its not richos fault, schultz got a bag but missed a lot because of injury. simmonds did well a chf/ff. hughes and riewoldt are too small and dont have a big motor.

 

[deliberate!!]

Unfortunantly, neither young Jack, Schulz or Hughes (nor any other young tall forward) will shine in the side until after Richo retires.

Richo is a great player but his presence within the arc is so big that there is no room left for any other tall player in that space.

I completely understand where you are coming from...
I keep saying to people that as good as Richo is with all his flaws,
I'm excited for Richmond after the 'Richo years' when we can fully release the shackles of Richo's presence and develop a more shared, better skilled forward line.

I'm not concerned who plays in the forward line when Richo goes, but this will finally free us up to experiment, start with young guys and share the workload freely with other regular forwards we decide on.

I think the future looks rosy once Richo (and even Browny) retires. A new start.
Again, I understand where you are coming from 'heartbroken'.

Cheers

 

[tony_montana]

Jacks got footy nous, and has the desire to work on his deficiencies, he'll be a player, no doubt whatsoever.

Needs to work on his burst running on the lead and needs to be able to sustain sprints for longer distances. Also needs to work on general fitness, other than that great mark, very good kick at goal, football brain and strong work ethic = give HIM SOME BLOODY TIME AND HE'LL DELIVER.

 

[Rayzorwire]

Richo does and has dominated the forward line, but the main reason that's happened so much is because we've spent most of his career bringing the ball down the flanks (slowly) instead of through the centre square more often. Playing the corridor opens the options up, and while the ball may still go to Richo, it is possible to use several other forward targets. If we're just bumbling our way up the flank slowly and Richo is streaming out toward the 50 or into the pocket along the boundary line, that's inevitably where the ball ends up because we've limited our options.

Wallace has tried hard to get us to at least square the ball up 70-80m out to increase our options, but old habits die hard for quite a few of our players.

 

[Tiger08]

I completely understand where you are coming from...
I keep saying to people that as good as Richo is with all his flaws,
I'm excited for Richmond after the 'Richo years' when we can fully release the shackles of Richo's presence and develop a more shared, better skilled forward line.

I'm not concerned who plays in the forward line when Richo goes, but this will finally free us up to experiment, start with young guys and share the workload freely with other regular forwards we decide on.

I think the future looks rosy once Richo (and even Browny) retires. A new start.
Again, I understand where you are coming from 'heartbroken'.

Cheers

Sad to say it but you're 100% correct. Richo has been a star who has played his guts out for Tigers since he was as an 18 year old. His presence dominates the forward line so it's impossible for a young KP to develop fully while he's there. We're too one dimensional and hasn't he always seemed to miss the set shots that really count? Richo sums up the Tigers of the past decade (or two), tries hard but has questionable skills and decision making. His retirement will give Schulz, Hughes etc a chance to develop. They're all first of second round picks and we need to develop one to be a gun because this year might be the last when we're down the bottom for a while and there's no Nick Reiwoldt or Kosi in this draft.. The rest of the team is starting to shape up okay but you need a gun forward who kicks the crucial goals so you keep momentum when you've got it.

 

[richois god]

who do you think will develop faster out of riewoldt or hughes and what are your expectations for those two and schulz

 

[ToroHombre]

I think we shouldnt be too harsh on Jack, considering hes only played 1 season and is still in his teens. Cleve I'm more concerned about. If he doesn't improve this season, then ill be REALLY concerned

 

[krustyman]

riewoldt played more games than hughes and schultz and didnt show much. he dont lead and tend to play from behind, whereas the others generally have a good lead. i dont know why he gets preference over the others.

 

[CoggaRules]

Richo does and has dominated the forward line, but the main reason that's happened so much is because we've spent most of his career bringing the ball down the flanks (slowly) instead of through the centre square more often. Playing the corridor opens the options up, and while the ball may still go to Richo, it is possible to use several other forward targets. If we're just bumbling our way up the flank slowly and Richo is streaming out toward the 50 or into the pocket along the boundary line, that's inevitably where the ball ends up because we've limited our options.

Wallace has tried hard to get us to at least square the ball up 70-80m out to increase our options, but old habits die hard for quite a few of our players.

i repeat as i have for the last i dont know how long. The wrong players end up with the ball for the last telling blow into the FL. They dont have a ****ing clue. They see the corridor option, but they havent got the sharpness of mind to release the ****ing thing immediately. WHy? because they havent got the skill sense to hit the target, that is going to be the target when the target gets there. Look at Lids, Cogga and Polo, they turn and without any hesitation they are releasing it to where it has to go. Look at Tuck, Hyde and Tivendale and you can light a smoke, have a sip of your beer and they are still working out what they have to do. By the time they do, the option has been covered, and they then go to the wrong option, or put a nothing balloon ball into the air in the hope that something happens.

 

[True Thylacine]

riewoldt played more games than hughes and schultz and didnt show much. he dont lead and tend to play from behind, whereas the others generally have a good lead. i dont know why he gets preference over the others.

Might wanna get to the odd game krusty. You cant tell on telly but the truth is closer to his leads dont get honoured as we are still as Richo conscious as ever. He is always options 1 2 and 3. Doesnt just happen to just Jack either.