Jack Viney

[The GOAT]

Accidents do happen OP & jango.Yes Lynch has broken his jaw,but that doesn't mean someone has to be punished for it.

They are under the new MRP rules though, Viney caused the injury. Pretty sure he'll get at least 2 and probably more.

 

[ManWithNoName]

They are under the new MRP rules though, Viney caused the injury. Pretty sure he'll get at least 2 and probably more.

No the new MRP rules are if you choose to bump and there's an injury you face consequences. Viney did not choose to bump.

 

[Tulip]

He'll take it to the tribunal and ask what else he was meant to do.

 

[wowlace]

Viney slows down to a near stop to mitigate the impact. Duty of care applied. Viney protected himself, not his fault Lynch is soft.

 

[LBJ6]

As said above, Viney did not choose to bump, he turned to the side to protect himself.

Watch in real time here (as i've mentioned before, i love how this incident results in two concussions and broken jaw yet Viney just bounces back up, barges through a tackle and gets off the contested handball. The kid's a ****ing gun):

http://www.melbournefc.com.au/video/2014-05-03/triple-head-clash-sees-two-subbed

MRP are peanuts so he will probably still get weeks.

 

[BG32]

0. If he gets weeks for that I'll personally walk into afl house and swing haymakers

 

[BG32]

Viney also stops and drops so to not get him in the head

 

[DerpWerls]

Adelaide have a history of juicing up the injury report and giving evidence so players are likely to get more weeks.

 

[Topkent]

Adelaide have a history of juicing up the injury report and giving evidence so players are likely to get more weeks.

Trenners sling tackle on Dangerfield got a month after the crows put in a report saying he had concussion, He then went out the next week and was best on

 

[ptrg]

You're not allowed to watch the video!! Look at jangofetts hand picked 3 frames!! Clearly viney is sprinting towards them- how else would they get closer to viney??

Jangofett is having some time off now to finalise and prepare his notes for the tribunal. They consist of the three screen shots. Enjoy the break champ

And for the Adelaide "supporter" (I use that term very loosely after the walkout last night), we will enjoy our 2nd win- just like we enjoy the fact that we have won 100% of our games against you at your home ground

 

[anditsadraw69]

As much as I love Viney (my favourite young player in the competition bar none), I think he's in trouble. You can see in the video he turns his body and actually chooses to bump, takes his eyes off the ball etc etc. As a result of his bump, Lynch's head ricochets into Geourgiou's head causing the injury. Really am praying he gets off, but if you look at the precedent set by the MRP this year, head clashes seem to attract weeks.

 

[PendlesPremiers]

I think he's in trouble- we can be confident that the point of Viney's shoulder connected with Tom Lynch's jaw (shown clearly in the reverse slow-mo). It'll be interesting to learn which impact caused the broken jaw, but as it was illegal contact that initiated the situation, I think he'll go.

 

[Horse6]

I think he will get 2 weeks. AFL has made a ridiculous precedent and wont have any option but to suspend him. Im a crows supporter and im crossing my fingers he gets off. No intention at all by Viney to hit lynch high, its just bad luck. Gee wizz the kid can play as well. Took our coaching staff 3 ans 1/2 qtrs to work it out.

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[ManWithNoName]

Lot of people seem to be making judgement off Jango's carefully selected screenshots rather than looking at footage. Viney in no way chose to bump.

And if he was choosing to bump then he should be blasted by the coaches for doing it so badly. Pulling his shoulder IN before he bumps? What idiot bumps like that? It's almost like he was just turning to protect himself...

 

[go_the_dockers]

Accidents do happen OP & jango.Yes Lynch has broken his jaw,but that doesn't mean someone has to be punished for it.

If you elect to bump, according to the AFL any damage that occurs is your fault.

With Lynch's arm's pinned and being pushed down it was dangerous.

Force will be high, no argument against that. 3 points
Contact was high. 2 points

The only argument is between negligent conduct and reckless conduct, and at is quiet easy to see he could have tackled so I think it is reckless.

That is 7 points, and 4 weeks probably down to 2 weeks with an early plea.

 

[go_the_dockers]

He'll take it to the tribunal and ask what else he was meant to do.

Tackle

 

[Dez!]

Tackle

Georgiou was already tackling Lynch and bringing him down which is why there was contact between Viney and Lynch. He didn't choose to bump he turned his body and tried to stop, he had no other option.

Btw when do we find out one way or the other?

 

[go_the_dockers]

Georgiou was already tackling Lynch and bringing him down which is why there was contact between Viney and Lynch. He didn't choose to bump he turned his body and tried to stop, he had no other option.

Btw when do we find out one way or the other?

Monday night normally. Say 5-6pm EST

 

[go_the_dockers]

Georgiou was already tackling Lynch and bringing him down which is why there was contact between Viney and Lynch. He didn't choose to bump he turned his body and tried to stop, he had no other option.

Btw when do we find out one way or the other?

http://www.afl.com.au/video/2014-05-03/triple-head-clash-sees-two-subbed

Here is the video,he saw Lynch coming before the got the ball. He had plenty of time to work out he wasn't going to get to the ball before Lynch but he elected to continue running. Then he saw Lynch get the ball and elected to bump rather than tackle.

This all happened in a split second, and I feel your pain but I don't think you can argue with the points he will receive except maybe if it was negligent rather than reckless.

If you elect to bump, according to the AFL any damage that occurs is your fault.

With Lynch's arm's pinned and being pushed down it was dangerous.

Force will be high, no argument against that. 3 points
Contact was high. 2 points

The only argument is between negligent conduct and reckless conduct, and at is quiet easy to see he could have tackled so I think it is reckless.

That is 7 points, and 4 weeks probably down to 2 weeks with an early plea.

 

[ManWithNoName]

http://www.afl.com.au/video/2014-05-03/triple-head-clash-sees-two-subbed

Here is the video,he saw Lynch coming before the got the ball. He had plenty of time to work out he wasn't going to get to the ball before Lynch but he elected to continue running. Then he saw Lynch get the ball and elected to bump rather than tackle.

This all happened in a split second, and I feel your pain but I don't think you can argue with the points he will receive except maybe if it was negligent rather than reckless.

So you're missing that Viney clearly slows down when he sees them coming?

And lowers himself despite the fact Lynch is taller?

And pulls himself back to try and make the contact as minimal as possible?

You're kidding yourself if you think he chose to bump.

 

[Topkent]

So you're missing that Viney clearly slows down when he sees them coming?

And lowers himself despite the fact Lynch is taller?

And pulls himself back to try and make the contact as minimal as possible?

You're kidding yourself if you think he chose to bump.

If jack Viney had chosen to bump not only would gergiou have a broken jaw but lynches head would have popped like a Brick in a watermelon

 

[go_the_dockers]

You're kidding yourself if you think he chose to bump.

He had two options, either bump or tackle and he chose to bump. Are you seriously arguing that Viney got not have tackled Lynch?

And lowers himself despite the fact Lynch is taller?

And pulls himself back to try and make the contact as minimal as possible?

I agree he tries to lower him self and probably would have been fine except the Melbourne player tackling him drove him forward.

It doesn't matter if he tried to limit the force, the force was enough to break his Jaw so it has to be high force

 

[Kummerspeck]

He had two options, either bump or tackle and he chose to bump. Are you seriously arguing that Viney got not have tackled Lynch?

Can you break down how in the space of about three quarters of a second and after having just shifted his weight onto his back foot and taken the other foot off the ground how he would have applied a tackle?

 

[go_the_dockers]

Can you break down how in the space of about three quarters of a second and after having just shifted his weight onto his back foot and taken the other foot off the ground how he would have applied a tackle?

The way I see it he was running toward Lynch, he saw him collect the ball he had the option of either tackling him or bump him.

Tackling was probably the easier option as all he had to do it open his arms and tackle him, but he chose to turn side ways and bump him.

By bumping he protected him self, absolutely. But the AFL have made it very clear that if you elect to bump and you injure a player you will get weeks.

Based on the MRP, how many points do you think he will get?

If you elect to bump, according to the AFL any damage that occurs is your fault.

With Lynch's arm's pinned and being pushed down it was dangerous.

Force will be high, no argument against that. 3 points
Contact was high. 2 points

The only argument is between negligent conduct and reckless conduct, and at is quiet easy to see he could have tackled so I think it is reckless.

That is 7 points, and 4 weeks probably down to 2 weeks with an early plea.

 

[ManWithNoName]

He had two options, either bump or tackle and he chose to bump. Are you seriously arguing that Viney got not have tackled Lynch?



I agree he tries to lower him self and probably would have been fine except the Melbourne player tackling him drove him forward.

It doesn't matter if he tried to limit the force, the force was enough to break his Jaw so it has to be high force

As I've said before, if Viney's brain works this fast he should be running the country.