Jack Viney

[NSWCROW]

NSWCROW - they all happened a few years ago mate...

That they did.....

 

[Sprout]

I think it's a poor decision. Shocking really.

What I don't understand is all the hysteria. Talk of a land mark decision. Footy never the same blah blah blah

We get half a dozen of these shockers a year for bumps/collisions/contact that should never warrant suspensions. This is just more of the same. Not sure why the blow up over this one.

Have you actually seen the incident? If you have, how can you possibly call it more of the same?

This case differs because Viney's ONLY other option available than bracing for the contact of Lynch was to JUMP OUT OF THE WAY. Pirouette, I believe Gleeson argued.

Viney went for the ball.

He didn't leave the ground, in fact he lowered his body.

He had no other realistic options.

This case ticks all the boxes to be cleared bar the injury. And because of the injury, the AFL have concocted a ludicrous argument about the option of a pirouette. It would be funny if it didn't have such serious repercussions for the game.

 

[mysainters]

If its not a contact sport, why are clubs LTI injury lists overflowing with contact related injuries?

Sure he's unlucky, but the game isn't soft.

Stop putting so much mayo on it.

 

[MinerBoy]

But going by Procrastinators logic, Hodge should have pulled out of the contest and tackled Murphy after he took possession. For that is what he is suggesting Viney should have done here

Murphy never took possession though. Hodge won the contest and Murphy got collected in the process. So Procrastinator is right when he says they are not comparable incidents.

However, this decision is still a shit one. I'm just not sure why we're all surprised or outraged. It's no worse than plenty of others over the past few years.

 

[Higgs Boson]

AFL legal counsel Jeff Gleeson proposed Viney could have "spun out" of the impending collision, rather than bracing for contact.

"Spun out"!?

I thought it is (was?) a contact sport. Who the hell is Jeff Glesson anyway? A lawyer...

Watching the replay of it, the bulk of the damage to Lynch appeared to occur as his head bounced back into Georgiou. I guess Viney was supposed to foresee this happening..

He is a lawyer and, according to 360, did exactly what a good counsel assisting should do. He submitted to the Tribunal that it was open to them to find that Viney chose to bump. He also submitted it was open to them to find he did not. Tribunal ****ed it up

 

[NSWCROW]

Mark Bickley elbows Wakelin off the ball breaks his jaw = Adelaide supporters applauded his leadership

Not this little black duck.
Deserved every one of those 6 games.

( no excuse but i still reckon Bicks did that out of frustration with his team mates that day , seeing he was the only crow who played like he GAF up to that point of the game that day )

 

[Procrastinator35]

You have no idea how football is played.

Ridiculous comment!....The tribunal is made up of ex-players & they have deemed he had an alternative!....Hence the 2 weeks!

You have no idea how the system works or the rules apply, which are quite clear....Once again a huge media beat-up here & mass hysteria, of which you & your comment are proof of!

 

[MinerBoy]

Have you actually seen the incident? If you have, how can you possibly call it more of the same?

It's just another shit decision where a fair action has seen a player suspended. I don't disagree that the decision is shithouse.

 

[GreekLunatic]

Spun out what's he gonna do a dance move what a load of crap

 

[Higgs Boson]

Crazy Idea: Get the average footy fan to make tribunal decisions not based on a categorical points system.

Problem is, the average footy fan is a moron

 

[JHF1870]

Not this little black duck.
Deserved every one of those 6 games.

( no excuse but i still reckon Bicks did that out of frustration with his team mates that day , seeing he was the only crow who played like he GAF up to that point of the game that day )

I miss your avatar

 

[Seth]

People need to start boycotting the game. Get onto Facebook and tell everyone to boycott the next 2 weeks games, the public has to start sending a message if the clubs or officials won't.

 

[Freoforever86]

So Viney is supposed to jump out the way & be dropped, bump & be suspended or not brace for contact & be knocked out himself?
Absolute howler of a decision!!

 

[MinerBoy]

People need to start boycotting the game. Get onto Facebook and tell everyone to boycott the next 2 weeks games, the public has to start sending a message if the clubs or officials won't.

I'm not going to the Hall of Fame.

 

[Strapping Young Lad]

The AFL have ****ed a once great game.

Disgusting decision.

I hope people vote with their feet.

 

[Seth]

Ridiculous comment!....The tribunal is made up of ex-players & they have deemed he had an alternative!....Hence the 2 weeks!

You have no idea how the system works or the rules apply, which are quite clear....Once again a huge media beat-up here & mass hysteria, of which you & your comment are proof of!

0-15

 

[Boxhead_31]

Murphy never took possession though. Hodge won the contest and Murphy got collected in the process. So Procrastinator is right when he says they are not comparable incidents.

However, this decision is still a shit one. I'm just not sure why we're all surprised or outraged. It's no worse than plenty of others over the past few years.

Who ended up with the ball in the Viney and Lynch contest btw?

 

[blaze036]

I'm not going to the Hall of Fame.

I'm tearing up my brownlow ticket

 

[Adam H]

Ridiculous comment!....The tribunal is made up of ex-players & they have deemed he had an alternative!....Hence the 2 weeks!

You have no idea how the system works or the rules apply, which are quite clear....Once again a huge media beat-up here & mass hysteria, of which you & your comment are proof of!

The tribunal is agenda driven. Do you honestly believe anyone thats played the game believes Viney had options?

Viney was suspended as it pleases a small noisy minority like yourself who think every

injury should see someone pay.

Oh unless that happens to be a player from your club.

 

[Atley]

If people are happy that Viney got games then well that is just sad.

 

[GreekLunatic]

Are we the only sport that changes rules every year

 

[Higgs Boson]

Exactly, and you're also on the money re the media beat up shite. To all of you that think Viney was hard done by watch the incident frame by frame and you will see very clearly that Viney never at any stage had his eyes on the ball. He is clearly focussed on the Crows player and knew exactly what he was about to do. Guilty as charged and deserved a longer stretch.

With respect, that is complete bullshit. Watch it again and note exactly when the ball bounces and lands in Lynch's hands. The time after that to collision is, oh about tree fitty.

Srs though there's no possible time to form an intent

 

[MinerBoy]

Who ended up with the ball in the Viney and Lynch contest btw?

No doubt. I haven't argued this wasn't a poor decision. I think he's been dudded.

The ball fell his way though after contact. He didn't actually win through to the ball first. That's where it isn't comparable.

 

[domus]

Ball wasn't being contested at all. He could of side stepped, could of tackled, or could of put his hands up to hold lynch off. Instead he decided to bump and drive his shoulder into lynch. 4+ weeks

Ridiculous. Watch it in normal motion. The suggestion that he should have jumped out of the way is beyond comprehension. That moron , Gleeson is an embarrassment. I could show you a photo of a bullet fired at close range a metre or two from a person's head, freeze frame the speeding bullet and ask Oh-why didn't the deceased just duck?

 

[Forward Press]

This is a sensitive topic with heated debate but playing the man and using offensive language is unacceptable. Period. No further warnings.