James Aish

[Elite Crow]

I basically said all this weeks ago

Said what?

 

[CroCop]

Why are people so keen on getting rid of Jenkins? Do we have some mysterious 40 goal a year forward/ruckman waiting in the Sanfl?

I think Dear and McGovern can both fit in nicely in our forward line in the future, McGovern is the Brett Burton Type whilst Dear is the Strong marking type . I know they are playing Keenan Ramsey in the forward line in the SANFL but the two I mentioned(Dear & McGovern) wont be defenders so don't know why they wouldn't be trying to make Ramsey a defender as he played so well there for SA in U18's and we need tall defenders. Lever will be the third tall type and wont be surprised if he makes it to a wing also .

 

[Captain Morgan]

I basically said all this weeks ago

So out of interest... The player going to Fremantle..... Is that danger ?

Everyone thinks he is looking east. Go west, there is a premiership contender with money to splash.

Just a theory of mine - hop I'm wrong !!

 

[Golumless]

No chance of that happening, given that this would mean us paying less a late 1st round pick in total. It's highly likely that we'll finish higher than Brisbane, so an exchange of 2nd & 3rd round picks is an upgrade for us.

Maybe our 1st & 2nd for Aish + Brisbane's 3rd.

Fair point, it's what i'd angle for... it definitely doesn't feel right to give two draft picks up for Aish when he's out of contract and we've been screwed over in the past with this.

 

[Dangerousfield]

Fair point, it's what i'd angle for... it definitely doesn't feel right to give two draft picks up for Aish when he's out of contract and we've been screwed over in the past with this.

Getting screwed over in the past doesn't come into it. No team has been more screwed over than Brisbane in the 2013 trade period when five high draft picks walked out for home states and Brisbane got no where near correct value.

Look at Dayne Beams going home to Brisbane last year, cost Brisbane (roughly) pick 8, 25 and the highly promising Jack Crisp.

Aish will cost us our first and second picks minimum, Port will do that in a heartbeat. If Danger walks out, expect that compo pick to be in play as well. Aish is a rare talent, clubs will pay to get him.

Aish walking is a big reason why we should support the northern academies because the four northern teams suffer unfairly from go home factor because they have a much higher % of interstaters on their lists.

 

[Pdub]

Getting screwed over in the past doesn't come into it. No team has been more screwed over than Brisbane in the 2013 trade period when five high draft picks walked out for home states and Brisbane got no where near correct value.

Look at Dayne Beams going home to Brisbane last year, cost Brisbane (roughly) pick 8, 25 and the highly promising Jack Crisp.

Aish will cost us our first and second picks minimum, Port will do that in a heartbeat. If Danger walks out, expect that compo pick to be in play as well. Aish is a rare talent, clubs will pay to get him.

Aish walking is a big reason why we should support the northern academies because the four northern teams suffer unfairly from go home factor because they have a much higher % of interstaters on their lists.

Port gave away their first and second picks last year, i think they will be hesitant to do it 2 years in a row.

 

[Pugsley]

They're just busy doing Playstation trades. There's almost no chance of JJ going anywhere, given that he seems very happy at Adelaide and doesn't seem to have any desire to go anywhere.

Especially contested marking situations.

 

[Pugsley]

Said what?

Says plenty of nothing.

 

[Bonkers000]

Getting screwed over in the past doesn't come into it. No team has been more screwed over than Brisbane in the 2013 trade period when five high draft picks walked out for home states and Brisbane got no where near correct value.

Look at Dayne Beams going home to Brisbane last year, cost Brisbane (roughly) pick 8, 25 and the highly promising Jack Crisp.

Aish will cost us our first and second picks minimum, Port will do that in a heartbeat. If Danger walks out, expect that compo pick to be in play as well. Aish is a rare talent, clubs will pay to get him.

Aish walking is a big reason why we should support the northern academies because the four northern teams suffer unfairly from go home factor because they have a much higher % of interstaters on their lists.

Brisbane thought beams was only worth pick 5. Aish should be worth way less than that. I also wouldn't pay overs for a player we don't really need (should danger stay) just because port would pay it.
If brisbane gave away the 5 players in 2013 for picks in the 20's. Why should we pay that much for aish?

 

[I Lost My Keays]

Getting screwed over in the past doesn't come into it. No team has been more screwed over than Brisbane in the 2013 trade period when five high draft picks walked out for home states and Brisbane got no where near correct value.

Look at Dayne Beams going home to Brisbane last year, cost Brisbane (roughly) pick 8, 25 and the highly promising Jack Crisp.

Aish will cost us our first and second picks minimum, Port will do that in a heartbeat. If Danger walks out, expect that compo pick to be in play as well. Aish is a rare talent, clubs will pay to get him.

Aish walking is a big reason why we should support the northern academies because the four northern teams suffer unfairly from go home factor because they have a much higher % of interstaters on their lists.

You can't compare Beams deal and Aish

1. Beams was one of collingwoods best players
2. Beams was still contracted to collingwood
3. Aish is out of contract , so giving up our first and second like you suggested is far fetched

 

[Vader]

So did vince

The Vince trade was very much the exception to the rule. It's the only example from the last 15 years where an Adelaide player has been traded against his will.

There were 3 reasons why the Vince trade happened the way it did:

1. Adelaide had a very strong desire (need) to get back into the 1st round of the draft, as a result of the Tiprat draft penalties (which came on the back of the GC & GWS start-up drafts).
2. Vince made himself expendable as an on-field asset by cruising through almost his entire career and rarely giving 100%.
3. Vince put his own head on the chopping block by repeatedly getting himself into trouble with his off-field antics.

There are no such exceptional circumstances surrounding an Aish trade, or any current Adelaide player.

 

[Vader]

You can't compare Beams deal and Aish

1. Beams was one of collingwoods best players
2. Beams was still contracted to collingwood
3. Aish is out of contract , so giving up our first and second like you suggested is far fetched

Giving up our 1st and 2nd round picks is not far-fetched at all - particularly if we finish towards the upper end of the ladder and our 1st round pick is 12+. Right now, it's the most plausible scenario that anyone has come up with. Your comments about Beams are valid, but you're kidding yourself if you think that our 1st round pick alone will get the job done.

 

[xchadders]

The Vince trade was very much the exception to the rule. It's the only example from the last 15 years where an Adelaide player has been traded against his will.

There were 3 reasons why the Vince trade happened the way it did:

1. Adelaide had a very strong desire (need) to get back into the 1st round of the draft, as a result of the Tiprat draft penalties (which came on the back of the GC & GWS start-up drafts).
2. Vince made himself expendable as an on-field asset by cruising through almost his entire career and rarely giving 100%.
3. Vince put his own head on the chopping block by repeatedly getting himself into trouble with his off-field antics.

There are no such exceptional circumstances surrounding an Aish trade, or any current Adelaide player.

except you can't be traded unless you agree to it, so it wasnt really against his will in the end.
if i recall correctly, someone on here stated that he wouldnt get a contract extension if he stayed, thus swaying him to accept the trade.

 

[Vader]

except you can't be traded unless you agree to it, so it wasnt really against his will in the end.
if i recall correctly, someone on here stated that he wouldnt get a contract extension if he stayed, thus swaying him to accept the trade.

He certainly wasn't a "required player"...

 

[I Lost My Keays]

Giving up our 1st and 2nd round picks is not far-fetched at all - particularly if we finish towards the upper end of the ladder and our 1st round pick is 12+. Right now, it's the most plausible scenario that anyone has come up with. Your comments about Beams are valid, but you're kidding yourself if you think that our 1st round pick alone will get the job done.

I think the first rounder is fair enough, I wouldn't be paying overs for an uncontracted player

 

[Red mist]

except you can't be traded unless you agree to it, so it wasnt really against his will in the end.
if i recall correctly, someone on here stated that he wouldnt get a contract extension if he stayed, thus swaying him to accept the trade.

It was more the terms that Melbourne were willing to offer compared to AFC that encouraged Bernie to accept.

 

[Captain Morgan]

Especially contested marking situations.

Comedy gold.

Learn to use your body FFS !!!

 

[feenix67]

Jenkins + 3rd rounder = Aish. Deal done.

 

[xchadders]

Jenkins + 3rd rounder = Aish. Deal done.

i wouldnt think so....

 

[Stone Sour]

Before we contemplate getting rid of Jenkins, can we make sure we have decent depth up forward. The only forwards we have who aren't playing and who aren't Pods, are inexperienced forwards who have injury issues and haven't been able to play a lot of games in the past few years. And Ramsey who has potential but had a real shocker on the weekend. He will get better but wouldn't put all my stocks on him replacing Jenkins.

 

[rezagun]

Unless we recruit a kpf or another ruck/forward we wont be trading jenkins. His first few games have been well below par. As much as he frustrates us all with his (looks like tarzan plays like jane) attitude he takes another kpd which takes the heavy load off walker. We need to get carlisle or henderson its just who we give up which is the problem. Aish is as good as gone as ive stated before, pickering is lying through his teeth like he usually does, its all spin hes just taking some of the pressure of aish. Thank god hes not dangerfields manager.

 

[whattagun07]

So out of interest... The player going to Fremantle..... Is that danger ?

Everyone thinks he is looking east. Go west, there is a premiership contender with money to splash.

Just a theory of mine - hop I'm wrong !!

Surely Freo have more pressing needs than an inside mid such as Danger.
They should be all over Rance, and any key forward they can get their hands on

 

[Scorpus]

Before we contemplate getting rid of Jenkins, can we make sure we have a decent depth up forward. The only forwards we have who aren't playing and who aren't Pods, are inexperienced forwards who have injury issues and haven't been able to play a lot of games in the past few days. And Ramsey who has potential but had a real shocker on the weekend. He will get better but wouldn't put all my stocks on him replacing Jenkins.

Ramsey isn't replacing Jenkins anyway as he can't ruck. We only have a few replacements for Jenkins (Dear, Lowden, O'Brien) and none of them are ready for his role.

 

[Stone Sour]

Ramsey isn't replacing Jenkins anyway as he can't ruck. We only have a few replacements for Jenkins (Dear, Lowden, O'Brien) and none of them are ready for his role.

I meant in forward depth only. Realistically, the only like for like is Dear. The others are Ruckman first, forward later. Where Jenkins plays predominantly forward. We need O'Brien and Lowden to have more impact up forward before we can replace Jenkins.

 

[footy4ever]

Why are people so keen on getting rid of Jenkins? Do we have some mysterious 40 goal a year forward/ruckman waiting in the Sanfl?

Way too much rubbish thrown at Jenkins. It's ridiculously over the top.