JJ Yes or No?

[hey shorty]

Great year, but needs to back it up.

 

[StonesThrow]

ok for arguments sake let's accept all of that.

how do you explain JJ's unprecedented lack of recognition from his coaches for his goals though? he's been 13/14th the last 2 years whilst kicking over a 100 goals combined in those 2 seasons.

he'll finish higher this year, I'm thinking he'll be about 6th/7th this year (all the injuries will hurt his competitors) on total votes and around 8/9/10 for average votes.

He kicked a lot more traditional tall forward goals where he was good on the lead, in the air and even on the ground. He stood up in these areas on a more consistent basis. It's as simple as that imo. Wouldn't say it had a great deal to do with the defensive stuff.

He's always been a fairly decent player and has been unfairly hammered by a lot of supporters because he's not instinctively aggressive.

 

[Sanders]

He kicked a lot more traditional tall forward goals where he was good on the lead, in the air and even on the ground. He stood up in these areas on a more consistent basis. It's as simple as that imo. Wouldn't say it had a great deal to do with the defensive stuff.

He's always been a fairly decent player and has been unfairly hammered by a lot of supporters because he's not instinctively aggressive.

Not sure what you’re trying to say here

 

[StonesThrow]

Not sure what you’re trying to say here

That goals are important. His marking was also a highlight.

 

[Sanders]

That goals are important. His marking was also a highlight.

Which the evidence clearly disagrees with

 

[StonesThrow]

Which the evidence clearly disagrees with

There is no clear black and white evidence that says goals for him aren't what the coaches care about. He was still our leading goal kicker. How he kicked them is hard to quantify but imo he worked a lot harder for his tally this year. I don't think his year had much to do with tackling. I think you're searching for things to back up your previous arguments.

 

[Rotayjay]

How much trade currency does Jenkins have as of today?

 

[Sanders]

There is no clear black and white evidence that says goals for him aren't what the coaches care about. He was still our leading goal kicker. How he kicked them is hard to quantify but imo he worked a lot harder for his tally this year. I don't think his year had much to do with tackling. I think you're searching for things to back up your previous arguments.

Wilful ignorance is not an admirable trait

 

[StonesThrow]

Wilful ignorance is not an admirable trait

It seems I was quite ignorant to actually get into any sort of debate. Will not do that again. Think I've fallen for this trap before.

 

[Paladin]

Not sure what you’re trying to say here

Still think his contract has negative value? Still prefer Josh Walker?

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Still think his contract has negative value? Still prefer Josh Walker?

Or Jack Watts.

Already outlasted Vickery & I expect JJ will play more games/kick more goals than Josh Walker, Watts & Vickery combined from here (or from when Sanders 1st suggested them as a viable alternative)...

 

[Sanders]

Still think his contract has negative value? Still prefer Josh Walker?

lol. It’d still negative or break even at best

You haven’t seen josh walker much recently have you? (Waits while doofus starts googling)

Still think JJ’s a better prospect than Ben Brown

 

[Sanders]

It seems I was quite ignorant to actually get into any sort of debate. Will not do that again. Think I've fallen for this trap before.

FFS.

The concepts here are very bloody simple and you’ve got no basis for such blind ignorance

Season 1 lots of goals = 14th
Season 2 lots of goals = 13th
Season 3 less goals more other stuff = 6th

I mean c’mon have some ****ing dignity at least

 

[StonesThrow]

FFS.

The concepts here are very bloody simple and you’ve got no basis for such blind ignorance

Season 1 lots of goals = 14th
Season 2 lots of goals = 13th
Season 3 less goals more other stuff = 6th

I mean c’mon have some ******* dignity at least

You're the man

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Lol, someone is digging to China..

 

[exit]

Lol, someone is digging to.Chins..

Yeah, he's never been wrong in his own little mind.

 

[John Who]

FFS.

The concepts here are very bloody simple and you’ve got no basis for such blind ignorance

Season 1 lots of goals = 14th
Season 2 lots of goals = 13th
Season 3 less goals more other stuff = 6th

I mean c’mon have some ******* dignity at least

First of all JJ came 3rd in this year's BnF, not 6th.
What the results of the BnF tells us, is that JJ has been remarkably consistent where he's around our 10th-15th best in the recent years. With injuries hitting us hard in the midfield (eg. Sloane, BCrouch), and up forward (Tex, Betts, McGovern), JJ and anyone who's playing regularly are bound to climb up the BnF rankings this year.
JJ coming in 3rd, in my opinion, is actually the coaches acknowledging that he has been consistently good, and he has kept the forward line functioning whilst every other forward has been crumbling around him.

This year actually explains more clearly the premise of the BnF - to get a good ranking, you need to play consistent footy and playing most weeks, AND relative to how others are performing. Injuries and form will drop you down the ladder, regardless of your importance to the team (eg. Sloane outside the top 10). JJ definitely still isn't our 3rd best player, but his importance and consistency this year reflects his result.

 

[Valentino Dmitri]

You haven’t seen josh walker much recently have you?

To be fair I didn't recognise the bloke first time I saw him this year!

 

[Sanders]

First of all JJ came 3rd in this year's BnF, not 6th.
What the results of the BnF tells us, is that JJ has been remarkably consistent where he's around our 10th-15th best in the recent years. With injuries hitting us hard in the midfield (eg. Sloane, BCrouch), and up forward (Tex, Betts, McGovern), JJ and anyone who's playing regularly are bound to climb up the BnF rankings this year.
JJ coming in 3rd, in my opinion, is actually the coaches acknowledging that he has been consistently good, and he has kept the forward line functioning whilst every other forward has been crumbling around him.

This year actually explains more clearly the premise of the BnF - to get a good ranking, you need to play consistent footy and playing most weeks, AND relative to how others are performing. Injuries and form will drop you down the ladder, regardless of your importance to the team (eg. Sloane outside the top 10). JJ definitely still isn't our 3rd best player, but his importance and consistency this year reflects his result.

6th

 

[Sanders]

You're the man

thank you

 

[John Who]

6th

3rd

Final Leaderboard Top 10
Rory Laird – 222
Matt Crouch – 166
Josh Jenkins – 162
Bryce Gibbs – 149
Hugh Greenwood - 140
Tom Doedee – 139
Luke Brown – 134
Wayne Milera Junior – 134
Rory Atkins – 128
Paul Seedsman - 128

Major Award Winners 2018
Malcolm Blight Medallist –Rory Laird
Runner-up – Matt Crouch
Third place – Josh Jenkins
Leading Goalkicker Award – Josh Jenkins

 

[Sanders]

3rd

Final Leaderboard Top 10
Rory Laird – 222
Matt Crouch – 166
Josh Jenkins – 162
Bryce Gibbs – 149
Hugh Greenwood - 140
Tom Doedee – 139
Luke Brown – 134
Wayne Milera Junior – 134
Rory Atkins – 128
Paul Seedsman - 128

Major Award Winners 2018
Malcolm Blight Medallist –Rory Laird
Runner-up – Matt Crouch
Third place – Josh Jenkins
Leading Goalkicker Award – Josh Jenkins

Maths is hard isn’t it?

 

[John Who]

Maths is hard isn’t it?

What's Maths got to do with anything? It's simply a matter of read and comprehend!

Malcolm Blight Medallist –Rory Laird
Runner-up – Matt Crouch
Third place – Josh Jenkins

 

[Sanders]

What's Maths got to do with anything? It's simply a matter of read and comprehend!

Malcolm Blight Medallist –Rory Laird
Runner-up – Matt Crouch
Third place – Josh Jenkins

See, this where you’re utter reliance on google doesn’t serve you well.

6th

 

[John Who]

See, this where you’re utter reliance on google doesn’t serve you well.

6th

Why can't you just admit being wrong?

"Third place – Josh Jenkins"