Rumour Jordan De Goey - The Oracle that is Kane Cornes

[Muddiemoose]

Whose line? Aren't the lines drawn by those engaging with each other?

Your views are reflective of prudish sentiment.

For people who love more excitement in their lives and are far more adventurous they will do whatever they like for the thrill of it.

She stopped him from doing it so she obviously didn’t want him to do it
The 2nd she pushed his hand away it became sexual assault, call it what you want but that is the reality

 

[evo]

Eddie just gave Neil Mitchell a serve on 3AW for calling him a Bali Boofhead after coming out with his ADHD excuse.

Great radio.

'Bali Boofhead' lol

That's gold.

 

[Bostonian]

She stopped him from doing it so she obviously didn’t want him to do it
The 2nd she pushed his hand away it became sexual assault, call it what you want but that is the reality

That's your reality.

Your reality doesn't seem to match hers.

 

[evo]

Eddie defending a Collingwood player, I'm shocked.

Eddie 'PT Barnum' Maguire just talk s self serving s**t constantly and has done so for decades.

 

[Muddiemoose]

That's your reality.

Your reality doesn't seem to match hers.

That is the legal reality, it’s just up to her if she wants to proceed with the claim
Just because she chooses not to dosent change the fact that by legal definition it was sexual assault

‘Sexual assault’ is any kind of sexual activity that you were forced, coerced or tricked into doing when you didn’t want to. It refers to a wide range of unwanted sexual behaviours, including:

• forced, unwanted sex, sexual acts or touching
• child sexual abuse: using power over a child or adolescent to involve them in sexual activity
• indecent assault: touching, or threatening to touch, someone else’s body sexually without their consent

 

[Bostonian]

That is the legal reality, it’s just up to her if she wants to proceed with the claim
Just because she chooses not to dosent change the fact that by legal definition it was sexual assault

Or it was foreplay.

Once gain you're making a claim without zero context.

If they are consenting it's not a legal reality at all.

 

[Muddiemoose]

Or it was foreplay.

Once gain you're making a claim without zero context.

If they are consenting it's not a legal reality at all.

Even if it was foreplay doesn't mean he had consent (especially if she was intoxicated) nor does it mean it wasn’t sexual assault

It all comes back around to consent, I suggest you learn your rights and the rights of others when it comes to consent and sexual acts

Everything you need to know about sexual assault

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What is ‘active’ sexual consent?​

‘Sexual consent’ is when you and your partner both actively and freely agree to do something sexual.

Consent is all about communication. ‘Active consent’ means that you and your partner give each other a clear and explicit ‘yes’ to the sexual activity you are about to be involved in. The absence of a ‘no’ isn’t enough.

Anything less than an active ‘yes’ isn’t consent. It doesn’t matter if you were wearing a short skirt, or flirting with the other person; those things don’t equal consent to sexual activity.

You and your partner should be checking in with each other during the sexual activity to make sure that you’re both comfortable with what you’re doing. That’s because you can change your mind at any point during the sexual activity and decide you don’t want to keep going, even if you’ve already started having sex. You can say things like, ‘Can we slow down?’, ‘Can we take a break?’ or ‘Can we stop?’. And if that happens, your partner must respect you and stop immediately. If they don’t, that’s sexual assault.

You also can’t give consent if you’re being pressured or forced into doing something you don’t actually want to do. And you can’t consent if you are drunk or high. If someone is sexual with you while you’re drunk or high and don’t know what’s going on, that is equivalent to sexual assault or rape

 

[Strange Cat]

He may be a moron, and he continues to play a dangerous game, BUT the other party was ok with it, and stated it on social media, why should it matter what other women think? Once the other party accepts consent nobody else’s opinion matters.

It shows along with his personal history he has very little respect towards women and has a big sense of entitlement…it a potentially violative mix with his refusal to see the big picture

He will end up in big trouble one day …it’s a suprise to see people not seeing his pattern of behaviour as dangerous.

He’s a ticking time bomb

 

[Private Hudson]

I actually just watched the footage for the first time. Gonna be honest, I was expecting it to be a hell of a lot worse with the way the media has been carrying on.

 

[Strange Cat]

That's your reality.

Your reality doesn't seem to match hers.

Seems to match the reality of his previous sexual assualt charges

You can’t just assume consent …his time in the AFL would had drilled that into head yet his past behaviour shows he doesn’t get it or doesn’t care

 

[BuddysBiggestFan]

I actually just watched the footage for the first time. Gonna be honest, I was expecting it to be a hell of a lot worse with the way the media has been carrying on.

You can guarantee that most of the Collingwood players went out in Melbourne over their bye weekend and were just as intoxicated and behaved worse than De Goey.

These guys should be locked up and only allowed out for training and games.

How dare they go out looking to pull women in your youth…..

 

[Bostonian]

Even if it was foreplay doesn't mean he had consent (especially if she was intoxicated) nor does it mean it wasn’t sexual assault

It all comes back around to consent, I suggest you learn your rights and the rights of others when it comes to consent and sexual acts

Everything you need to know about sexual assault

Click here to learn about sexual assault, how trauma can affect your life, and how you can get support during tough times.

au.reachout.com

What is ‘active’ sexual consent?​

‘Sexual consent’ is when you and your partner both actively and freely agree to do something sexual.

Consent is all about communication. ‘Active consent’ means that you and your partner give each other a clear and explicit ‘yes’ to the sexual activity you are about to be involved in. The absence of a ‘no’ isn’t enough.

Anything less than an active ‘yes’ isn’t consent. It doesn’t matter if you were wearing a short skirt, or flirting with the other person; those things don’t equal consent to sexual activity.

You and your partner should be checking in with each other during the sexual activity to make sure that you’re both comfortable with what you’re doing. That’s because you can change your mind at any point during the sexual activity and decide you don’t want to keep going, even if you’ve already started having sex. You can say things like, ‘Can we slow down?’, ‘Can we take a break?’ or ‘Can we stop?’. And if that happens, your partner must respect you and stop immediately. If they don’t, that’s sexual assault.

You also can’t give consent if you’re being pressured or forced into doing something you don’t actually want to do. And you can’t consent if you are drunk or high. If someone is sexual with you while you’re drunk or high and don’t know what’s going on, that is equivalent to sexual assault or rape

So the still shot of her behind him and with her draped all over him with his mouth a gasp is legally sexual assault then.

 

[Outback Footy]

The media? Geebus the media didnt post it online and if it wasnt posted online none of this happens. While i think the media reporting is poor they are the symptom not the cause the real issue is that as ben dixon said (i think it was him that said it today) that jordans friends keep posting videos of his antics online. Now either his friends are genuinely mentally incompetent or they have brains and they know that with his profile they are opening him up to having his career ruined and they dont care and post anyway. He needs to get better friends. People in his position can misbehave but they need to do it quietly and not have it go online, dont post crap to social media,and dont be friends with anyone that does. This applies to a lot of people in jobs that pay far less than footy,it applies to jordan too. Make his friends take responsibility because if they did theres no issue.

Nah. The real issue is Jordys "antics" as you put it. This s**t is not OK in 2022. The issue is that he shouldnt put himself in that position, clearly he shouldnt drink, if he has control issues he needs to make better choices. This is not his mates fault. No trip to Bali (wich other AFL "star" went to party place during their week off?) = no trip to bar = not pissed = no "antics" = no issue.
Putting it into context; While it was Baz' mates fault that a video was shared, it was Baz' fault for being an idiot with a bag of white powder when you know youre in the public eye. No white powder = no video = no 2 week ban.

Its 2022, everybodys got a video camera with them 24/7. If youre a high profile person dont do stupid s**t. And if you do cop it. Jordys clearly not owning this.

 

[Muddiemoose]

So the still shot of her behind him and with her draped all over him with his mouth a gasp is legally sexual assault then.

Yup

If it is deemed a sexual act with no active consent

 

[Bostonian]

Seems to match the reality of his previous sexual assualt charges

You can’t just assume consent …his time in the AFL would had drilled that into head yet his past behaviour shows he doesn’t get it or doesn’t care

This whole nonsense is about assumptions from people who weren't there.

 

[Bostonian]

Yup

The lunatics have taken over the asylum.

 

[Muddiemoose]

The lunatics have taken over the asylum.

So you think anyone should be able to do whatever they want to someone else even if they don’t want them to?

 

[BuddysBiggestFan]

The lunatics have taken over the asylum.

No touching until legal consent, signed by both parties, overseen by individual lawyers.

 

[Muddiemoose]

No touching until legal consent, signed by both parties, overseen by individual lawyers.

Would you be happy with someone approaching you at a club, having a dance than trying to take your pants off and exposing you to the rest of the club along with someone filling it and spread over social media?

 

[Bostonian]

Would you be happy with someone approaching you at a club, having a dance than trying to take your pants off and exposing you to the rest of the club along with someone filling it and spread over social media?

Would you care if a woman you found very attractive came up close to you and ran her hand down your arm to get your attention?

What if she took your hand and lead you out to the dance floor?

You'd scream at her no doubt that she's legally sexually assaulting you and that you didn't give her consent to show a bit of her sensual humanity toward you.

 

[JyeDye]

This all could have been wrapped up last weekend if De Goey could use his brain for 10 whole minutes. Whoever helped him and approved writing that first apology needs to be fired. All he needed to do was record himself with his girlfriend and say sorry for being a bit of a knob, he’s still working on himself, the girl was fine with it, and whatever more. Media would have moved on from it that afternoon.

 

[Muddiemoose]

Would you care if a woman you found very attractive came up close to you and ran her hand down your arm to get your attention?

What if she took your hand and lead you out to the dance floor?

You'd scream at her no doubt that she's legally sexually assaulting you and that you didn't give her consent to show a bit of her sensual humanity toward you.

No I wouldn’t at all, but you can’t just assume everyone would be happy with it

I also don’t think that would count as a sexual act

 

[Bostonian]

No I wouldn’t at all, but you can’t just assume everyone would be happy with it

I also don’t think that would count as a sexual act

But she didn't have consent so it's sexual assult because the hand through the palm is an erogenous zone.

 

[Muddiemoose]

But she didn't have consent so it's sexual assult because the hand through the palm is an erogenous zone.

If that constitutes a sexual act in your view, sure you could try and take legal action, doesn't necessarily mean it will hold up but that’s beside the point

It’s pretty basic stuff really don’t touch people sexually without consent and you won’t open yourself up to a sexual assault charge

 

[JyeDye]

Would you care if a woman you found very attractive came up close to you and ran her hand down your arm to get your attention?

What if she took your hand and lead you out to the dance floor?

You'd scream at her no doubt that she's legally sexually assaulting you and that you didn't give her consent to show a bit of her sensual humanity toward you.

Stop trying to act like because you can’t grope some girls breasts that now you can’t flirt or have fun going out. Grabbing someone’s arms or hands is completely different to the scenario to trying to expose someone genitals like he posed. Why are people acting like the whole world is going crazy because you can’t just sexual assault someone and expect it to be passed over as having a bit of fun. No one is out to get you, be a decent human being and you won’t have any problems.