Draft Watcher Knightmare's 2013 phantom draft
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I do as against the grain as it will be. There may be some West Australians who agree but I see Acres as Fyfe with footskills. He's a tall, strong midfielder who wins it inside and outside, can take marks, has versatility and can go forward and hit the scoreboard but then also has extra time and space and uses it so well. Perhaps not on the same dominant level but has talent and the scope to be the best midfielder in this draft.
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Not poor but not great either.
Salem is a solid midfielder who will be a handy guy who can find a role.
Kennedy-Harris could find a role as a forward pocket.
Hunt late was unexpected.
They're strong character guys who will put in the work so they're guys who have the opportunity to make it under Roos but they're probably not developing into stars either.
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Zac Jones is a solid pick and can play a role down back and rotate into the midfield later in his career perhaps.
Hewett will need time and is a relatively speculative pick but has a strong inside game. Has his fans but still has some way to go and not sure he is a need with the Swans midfield strong
Nankervis is a strong selection and I give him a fair chance of making it as a key forward/ruckman.
Aliir Aliir in the national draft is a reach and hasn't done enough as a project facing an up hill battle to make it but Sydney are a good environment for a key defender to develop so we'll see what happens.
Mixed bag and a solid enough draft with Jones a better first rounder than many of those other recent outsideish types.
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You going to do a phantom rookie draft, Knightmare ? Think Weller, Webster, and Thorp are Tasmania's only real chances in the rookie. Have them in that order too.
I'm hoping the Saints pick him up along with Mav Weller who's already training with us.
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He'd have to be the best rookie prospect available and should have gone in the top 35 of the ND conservatively. He won't get rookied though. /wrists
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He'd have to be the best rookie prospect available and should have gone in the top 35 of the ND conservatively. He won't get rookied though. /wrists
On or off-field issue? I'm hoping its something he can work his way through, one of the better prospects in this crop.
KM, do you know the club order in the rookie draft?
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Very unlikely to be drafted.
Could you give us a hint as to the issue? I rated him...
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Very unlikely to be drafted.
Could you give us a hint as to the issue? From what I've read and seen I thought he was up there in terms of potential with Kolodjashnij.
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Knight, Thanks again for another stellar PD year 
How do you rate the lions draft... Interesting was how the lions let Taylor sit on the board for 2 picks while they secure 2 defenders. How likely did you see other teams securing Gardiner and mcstay if the lions waited until pick 28+
Im am rapt to get taylor as I was very hopeful in trade week to get Ports 1st pick for Polec so we could secure Taylor... Is it just his height that made him slide? Or do you have other theories?
Also, you must be rapt for the Pies securing Marsh so late... I dont think anyone saw him sliding
How do you rate the lions draft... Interesting was how the lions let Taylor sit on the board for 2 picks while they secure 2 defenders. How likely did you see other teams securing Gardiner and mcstay if the lions waited until pick 28+
Im am rapt to get taylor as I was very hopeful in trade week to get Ports 1st pick for Polec so we could secure Taylor... Is it just his height that made him slide? Or do you have other theories?
Also, you must be rapt for the Pies securing Marsh so late... I dont think anyone saw him sliding
Knight, Thanks again for another stellar PD year
How do you rate the lions draft... Interesting was how the lions let Taylor sit on the board for 2 picks while they secure 2 defenders. How likely did you see other teams securing Gardiner and mcstay if the lions waited until pick 28+
Im am rapt to get taylor as I was very hopeful in trade week to get Ports 1st pick for Polec so we could secure Taylor... Is it just his height that made him slide? Or do you have other theories?
Also, you must be rapt for the Pies securing Marsh so late... I dont think anyone saw him sliding
How do you rate the lions draft... Interesting was how the lions let Taylor sit on the board for 2 picks while they secure 2 defenders. How likely did you see other teams securing Gardiner and mcstay if the lions waited until pick 28+
Im am rapt to get taylor as I was very hopeful in trade week to get Ports 1st pick for Polec so we could secure Taylor... Is it just his height that made him slide? Or do you have other theories?
Also, you must be rapt for the Pies securing Marsh so late... I dont think anyone saw him sliding
Hi Knightmare
I asked you a while ago about this year's draftees and your thoughts on their potential to score in a Dreamteam format next year. You gave me a lovely breakdown and suggested I get back to you after the draft as a lot will depend on which teams the players end up at and their probable game time and roles etc. So I would really appreciate if when you have the time you would be able to repeat the process of listing the highest possible output players in your estimation as well as an indicator of whether they are likely to play next year or be more of a long term prospect.
Just to clarify, the league I'm in is a keeper league which has been running 2 years so most teams only have 2-5 'live picks' and just functions like a normal draft, so there is no need to get bargain players like in actual Dreamteam. I also realise the new draftees positions i.e. Back/Forward/Centre haven't been locked in yet, but I'd appreciate it if you might divide the draftees into forwards/centre/backs based on your belief of where they might be positioned next year - as I'm overloaded with centres, but short on high scoring forwards
Cheers
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I asked you a while ago about this year's draftees and your thoughts on their potential to score in a Dreamteam format next year. You gave me a lovely breakdown and suggested I get back to you after the draft as a lot will depend on which teams the players end up at and their probable game time and roles etc. So I would really appreciate if when you have the time you would be able to repeat the process of listing the highest possible output players in your estimation as well as an indicator of whether they are likely to play next year or be more of a long term prospect.
Just to clarify, the league I'm in is a keeper league which has been running 2 years so most teams only have 2-5 'live picks' and just functions like a normal draft, so there is no need to get bargain players like in actual Dreamteam. I also realise the new draftees positions i.e. Back/Forward/Centre haven't been locked in yet, but I'd appreciate it if you might divide the draftees into forwards/centre/backs based on your belief of where they might be positioned next year - as I'm overloaded with centres, but short on high scoring forwards
Cheers
Goatboy
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Knight, Thanks again for another stellar PD year
How do you rate the lions draft... Interesting was how the lions let Taylor sit on the board for 2 picks while they secure 2 defenders. How likely did you see other teams securing Gardiner and mcstay if the lions waited until pick 28+
Im am rapt to get taylor as I was very hopeful in trade week to get Ports 1st pick for Polec so we could secure Taylor... Is it just his height that made him slide? Or do you have other theories?
Also, you must be rapt for the Pies securing Marsh so late... I dont think anyone saw him sliding
I like what Brisbane did and I have Brisbane as one of the winners this year.
McStay could have been had at 28 but perhaps not later if Brisbane wanted to make sure he made it onto the Brisbane list.
Gardiner needed to be picked at 22 to secure for certain.
It's interesting Taylor slipped. I put it down to the push to go more for taller midfielders after Fremantle's success with that tall midfield.
I look at it as a gap in the scouting, similar to Grundy last year where clubs decided not to select ruckmen early despite what many described during the year as top 3 talent only because clubs saw how many clubs were finding ruckmen at the bottom of opposition lists.
Taylor may not have ever been projected as top 3 in this draft but it's the same story as with Grundy where Taylor similarly has the opportunity to be a real value selection as someone who far outperforms his draft position due to being a less in demand type in that year thanks to a change in draft trend.
Taylor is the better of the recent sub 175cm guys for mine. He's a good one.
Marsh is a good get late. The talk was that he would slide and Collingwood just capitalising and taking a real talent but also someone who adds more height and pace to a team needing both.
Hi Knightmare
I asked you a while ago about this year's draftees and your thoughts on their potential to score in a Dreamteam format next year. You gave me a lovely breakdown and suggested I get back to you after the draft as a lot will depend on which teams the players end up at and their probable game time and roles etc. So I would really appreciate if when you have the time you would be able to repeat the process of listing the highest possible output players in your estimation as well as an indicator of whether they are likely to play next year or be more of a long term prospect.
Just to clarify, the league I'm in is a keeper league which has been running 2 years so most teams only have 2-5 'live picks' and just functions like a normal draft, so there is no need to get bargain players like in actual Dreamteam. I also realise the new draftees positions i.e. Back/Forward/Centre haven't been locked in yet, but I'd appreciate it if you might divide the draftees into forwards/centre/backs based on your belief of where they might be positioned next year - as I'm overloaded with centres, but short on high scoring forwards
Cheers
Goatboy
Some guys I'd look at in a dreamteam draft
Jack Martin (Season one: 22 games. 85ave) long term career upside: 115ave.
Thomas Boyd (Season one: 10 games. 55ave) long term career upside: 85ave.
Jesse Hogan (Season one: 20 games. 65ave) long term career upside: 95ave.
Blake Acres (Season one: 10 games. 65ave) long term career upside: 115ave.
Luke McDonald (Season one: 20 games. 65ave) long term career upside: 100ave.
James Aish (Season one: 20 games. 65ave) long term career upside: 105ave.
Jack Billings (Season one: 20 games. 60ave) long term career upside: 110ave.
Matthew Scharenberg (Season one: 10 games. 65ave) long term career upside: 90ave.
Kade Kolodjashnij (Season one: 20 games, 70ave) long term career upside: 95ave.
Matt Crouch (Season one: 5 games, 80ave) long term career upside: 105ave.
Dominic Sheed (Season one: 15 games, 80ave) long term career upside: 100ave.
Luke Dunstan (Season one: 10 games, 65ave) long term career upside: 100ave.
Josh Kelly (Season one: 20 games. 80ave) long term career upside: 100ave.
Lewis Taylor (Season one: 10 games. 65ave) long term career upside: 95ave.
Matt Fuller (Season one: 20 games. 65ave) long term career upside: 70ave.
Dayle Garlett (Season one: 15 games. 70ave) long term career upside: 90ave.
Brisbane is one of those teams that has bought into that trend however we've been doing it for a while. Before this draft, the only sub-187cm players we'd drafted since 2010 are Beams, Docherty and Green. Everyone else has been 187cm+ including rookies. Bucked that trend a bit with Taylor and Aish this year.
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Another draft done and dusted. Thanks KM for giving us a footy focus during the pre draft period (and during season as well of course). Always a great read and your analysis and opinions are greatly respected. Cheers M
Thanks for all your work in this thread KM.
In line with the above, where do you see Bontempelli fitting in?
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Won't play a whole lot right away I wouldn't think. He's someone who can become an excellent footballer with time but I don't see him as an elite accumulator.
May play five games in season one at a 50 average. Has the upside to be a 100ave if things go right later on in his career.
Great work this year KM.
Would you have similar views from a supercoach perspective?
Do you believe Lobb will get game time in 2014 and Josh Prudden?
Cam Wood to be the ruckman to get in 2014 ey ey
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