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Society/Culture Kyle Rittenhouse

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Chief said:
Do tell how he’s not being represented… oh wait he is.
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He didn't access to the financial support that another did who was afforded the assumption of victimhood. The machine of society blocked one and fell into rank behind the other.
 
Balls In said:
Don't people feel even a tad manipulated by the politics at play here? Where was this outrage when peoples livelihoods were being destroyed and people murdered during all these riots?
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Just by the politics?

We've seen people realise they've been mislead by their media choices live in front of us regarding facts of this case.
 

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Taylor said:
We've seen people realise they've been mislead by their media choices live in front of us regarding facts of this case.
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Where? Christ. “Medic, security, firefighter”.
 
sherb said:
If you want to bring the race argument into it, you simply have to imagine a black man having done exactly what Rittenhouse did.

Both in terms of treatment by the police (would he even be alive?) and the US justice system (if the police didn't kill him, would he get off as Rittenhouse is likely to?).

Sure as hell if a black man had killed whites in an identical situation, the judge would have no issue with the dead/injured being labelled as "victims".
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You are dreaming. If Rittenhouse had been black and was mobbed by white people, he would be called a hero and survivor. The trial would go in his favour without question, for fear of BLM retaliation and riots. CNN, MSNBC and most other media would be demanding an acquittal and compo for him too.
 
Eagle Wrath said:
If Rittenhouse had been black and was mobbed by white people
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Remember the rest: he went to the area with an assault rifle and two people died.
 
Chief said:
Where? Christ. “Medic, security, firefighter”.
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Your own posts.

And given there is evidence in this very trial of him the day before acting as a medic and firefighting on video, maybe you also need to review that part of what you know to be true about this.
 
Chief said:
Remember the rest: he went to the area with an assault rifle and two people died.
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Where one of them was yelling the N word repeatedly and looked like a skinhead.

The media would have made Rosenbaum out as a white supremacist child rapist and the black Rittenhouse a hero.
 
Chief said:
Remember the rest: he went to the area with an assault rifle and two people died.
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Which he was permitted to do. Gun charge has been thrown out.
 
Red Black and Blue said:
Which he was permitted to do. Gun charge has been thrown out.
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Its an open carry state and his right to be there with his rifle is not on trail (well morally yes, just not in the courtroom). I think he should not have been there. The cops really failed the town imho.
 

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Red Black and Blue said:
Which he was permitted to do. Gun charge has been thrown out.
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Legality or otherwise, do you think that was a wise thing to do? Of course it wasn’t. Christ. He took an assault rifle into the middle of all that.

However the case ends up, my points are about the relative value that is placed on the rights and life of different people. Rittenhouse is up the ladder. BLM protesters, black people, poor people, people with a criminal record, they’re down the ladder. They don’t get the President equivocating over their guilt. They don’t get the President defending their right to run around firing paintball guns into a crowd, and so on.
 
Balls In said:
It does
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My understanding that the gun charge was in relation to it being brought into the state illegally.

Chief said:
Legality or otherwise, do you think that was a wise thing to do? Of course it wasn’t. Christ. He took an assault rifle into the middle of all that.

However the case ends up, my points are about the relative value that is placed on the rights and life of different people. Rittenhouse is up the ladder. BLM protesters, black people, poor people, people with a criminal record, they’re down the ladder. They don’t get the President equivocating over their guilt. They don’t get the President defending their right to run around firing paintball guns into a crowd, and so on.
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He wasn't alone though, there were plenty of open and concealed carriers out that night
Given the cops did not contain it early, it was always going to end in disaster.

On your second point I am assuming you are referring to the theory of Intersectionality?
 
Chief said:
Legality or otherwise, do you think that was a wise thing to do? Of course it wasn’t. Christ. He took an assault rifle into the middle of all that.
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He sounds like he gets off on community service, a borderline hero complex even. Not clever him being there imo, but he was clearly helping innocent people caught up in the riots and once that decision was made to do that, his having a gun probably saved his life.
 

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Chief said:
Legality or otherwise, do you think that was a wise thing to do? Of course it wasn’t. Christ. He took an assault rifle into the middle of all that.

However the case ends up, my points are about the relative value that is placed on the rights and life of different people. Rittenhouse is up the ladder. BLM protesters, black people, poor people, people with a criminal record, they’re down the ladder. They don’t get the President equivocating over their guilt. They don’t get the President defending their right to run around firing paintball guns into a crowd, and so on.
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Who cares if it was wise. Freedom of movement and free to carry. You can partake in as much risky behaviour legally as you want.

As for relative value, the fact he shot a pedophile, a burglar and a wife basher shows the choice to take a gun when mixing with those people was a good one and he’d likely be dead or crippled severely had he not. The rule of law is literally there to protect the lawful from the unlawful. Relative value is inherent.
 
Taylor said:
it is my understanding that the arrest warrant the police were informed of before arriving there was for the sexual assault of the woman who called the police prior to him being shot.
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That's not what you said, which was this:
His former partner called the police as he was sexually assaulting her.

So was he sexually assaulting her at the time of the call or not?
 
ChampRevesby said:
My understanding that the gun charge was in relation to it being brought into the state illegally.
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Nah the charge was whether he was allowed to have the gun (and open carry it). Basically he was allowed to have the gun, was entitled to be where he was and it comes down to whether his use of force was justified. That all looks open and shut.
 
Balls In said:
Nah the charge was whether he was allowed to have the gun (and open carry it). Basically he was allowed to have the gun, was entitled to be where he was and it comes down to whether his use of force was justified. That all looks open and shut.
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Right I wasn't sure if it was the acquisition of the rifle or the carry for a minor. I knew the latter was resolved not the former. Very liberal gun rights in that state.
 

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