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Have no issues with Nick and his attitude/antics as he is only 19. Confidence, perhaps arrogance and petulance seem to be the norm at that age. If he doesn't grow out of it in the next few years then my opinion will change.
 
Do people actually think arrogance is bad because it affects his tennis or their opinion of him as a person?

He's clearly not overly arrogant.

I would imagine most grand slam winners or successful tennis players all have a "I'm ****ing better than you" mindset when they step on the court.
 
TheFreshBanana said:
I would imagine most grand slam winners or successful tennis players all have a "I'm ******* better than you" mindset when they step on the court.
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Yep. I think if he was American and being touted as the next big thing, they'd consider it pretty normal to have that "I'm better than you" mentality.

I love his swag, but he has to be concious that on-court is where most people see him, so that's where they'll base judgement, even if he's otherwise pretty well grounded as a person.
 

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rideclutch said:
Yep. I think if he was American and being touted as the next big thing, they'd consider it pretty normal to have that "I'm better than you" mentality.

I love his swag, but he has to be concious that on-court is where most people see him, so that's where they'll base judgement, even if he's otherwise pretty well grounded as a person.
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I honestly don't see the big deal in any of his on field antics, although I haven't seen or really heard what he did to some ball kid.

Like, none of the stuff he's done, is an objectively bad thing. He hasn't purposely hurt someone, gone against the spirit of the game, cheated, or anything like that.

If they don't like him because he smashes rackets, swears, tell people to shut up in the crowd.... then fair enough... they wouldn't get along with him in person at all, just doesn't make him an arrogant, cocky, whatever...
 
TheFreshBanana said:
If they don't like him because he smashes rackets, swears, tell people to shut up in the crowd.... then fair enough... they wouldn't get along with him in person at all, just doesn't make him an arrogant, cocky, whatever...
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Yeah that's fine; personally I have no problem with anyone smashing racquets or berating themselves, even approaching the chair if that's what they feel they need to do.

Don't think ball kids, lines people or the crowd need to be engaged in any of that, that would be my slight distinction.
 
rideclutch said:
Yeah that's fine; personally I have no problem with anyone smashing racquets or berating themselves, even approaching the chair if that's what they feel they need to do.

Don't think ball kids, lines people or the crowd need to be engaged in any of that, that would be my slight distinction.
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Agree with ball kids and lines people, but I was at the first round match between Kyrgios and... other guy.

And some people in the crowd are just down right idiots.

If you're yelling while their serving, or about to serve, then I have no problem Kyrgios telling them to shut up as it stops them from doing it in the future.
 
TheFreshBanana said:
If you're yelling while their serving, or about to serve, then I have no problem Kyrgios telling them to shut up as it stops them from doing it in the future.
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Fair enough.

This Open has been one of the more moronic crowds no doubt. As a self-confessed moron of the upper echelon, if I can realise they're about to play and keep quiet, anyone can.
 
I laugh at all these people who complain about his foul language. Dropping f bombs and the like
How precious do you have to be. It's just a word. People use it all the time. If I could count the number of times I heard people say it this week it would be well over 100 times.

When I make a mistake I swear. When I get frustrated I swear. When I see something outrageous I swear. These things all happen frequently in tennis.

He isn't one of the local church ladies playing social bowls on a Sunday afternoon. He is a highly driven, testosterone fuelled male. I just shows how out of touch some people are with young Australians these days,
 
TheFreshBanana said:
People need to harden the **** up. Complaining about smashing his racquet lol.
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The concern was more about abusing a ball boy and the number of audible 'F' words in that match.

The other concern is he's showing signs of big head syndrome. Rafter is doing his bit to keep that in check. Not with much success at present.

A prodigious talent if he keeps things together and stays fit.
 
AM said:
The concern was more about abusing a ball boy and the number of audible 'F' words in that match.

The other concern is he's showing signs of big head syndrome. Rafter is doing his bit to keep that in check. Not with much success at present.

A prodigious talent if he keeps things together and stays fit.
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What's wrong with swear words? AFL players say it all the time after a missed shot.

What sort of signs?
 
Doesn't bother me, then again, I cuss a lot so someone who is in a heated match and needs to swear, seems perfectly natural to me.
 

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TheFreshBanana said:
What's wrong with swear words? AFL players say it all the time after a missed shot.

What sort of signs?
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It was audible and at a time kids were watching. Think audible obscenities aren't tolerated in tennis. Usually a warning then a penalty for subsequent utterances.

You might have even noticed the word is censored here.

If you aren't sufficiently observant to get the audible obscenity matter you'll probably not have noted his smart arse comments either.;) Start by looking up Pat Rafter's remarks.
 
AM said:
It was audible and at a time kids were watching. Think audible obscenities aren't tolerated in tennis. Usually a warning then a penalty for subsequent utterances.

You might have even noticed the word is censored here.

If you aren't sufficiently observant to get the audible obscenity matter you'll probably not have noted his smart arse comments either.;) Start by looking up Pat Rafter's remarks.
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Oh I've heard them, but I don't really look at the "tennis rules" when judging a player.

I don't really care if a player throws a **** or whatever here and there. Yeah, they are uncontrollably, a role model for kids. But they are just normal human beings who are good at tennis. As an adult, I can understand that.

Exactly the same how I feel regarding smashing rackets. I know it might not look good to the PC brigade, but **** man, when a mans gotta smash a racket, a mans gonna smash a racket. Or a woman.

As for the smartass comments, I've only heard the 5th set one, in which... yeah I agree... probably could have handled it a bit better just to be nice, but it was a stupid question.
 
raghav said:
Geez you really do have an axe to grind:rolleyes:, given what you've expressed about Rafter I guess you wouldn't be overly enamoured by the likes of Federer and the other players who know how to control their emotions?
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I don't know of Federer undermining Davis Cup teammates and taking a DC captains side against a player whose father was ill, and he had to withdraw from the Davis Cup.

Newcombe is a disgrace for how he treated Scud back then, and Rafter publicly took Newcombe's side, over Scud, and sold out his own teammate.
 
GTOA said:
I don't know of Federer undermining Davis Cup teammates and taking a DC captains side against a player whose father was ill, and he had to withdraw from the Davis Cup.

Newcombe is a disgrace for how he treated Scud back then, and Rafter publicly took Newcombe's side, over Scud, and sold out his own teammate.
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Maybe Rafter and Newcombe, who knew how to win, found it difficult to tolerate a player with a heart like a split pea who let down his team mates. Phillipousis was a mental squib and because of that never realised his full potential.
 

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ManWithNoName said:
If someone in the crowd using their phone distracts him that much, he's not good enough to win a Grand Slam. Harden the **** up.
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I didn't think Nick was saying the phone was distracting him.
I think he was saying what are you doing on your phone? There is an amazing 5 set match happening right here!!

Same goes to the people leaving.

Not that I'll excuse him for either but that's the impression I got rather him saying it was a distraction.
 
Hudu Gurusingha said:
Return game is far too weak to become top 5-10

What defines the best of the best is their stats on the return game. Kyrgios is behind significantly.
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I'd be interested in seeing some stats on this? I would imagine his return stats are a fair way off the elite right now, but is there any way to compare them to the Nadal, Djokovic etc stats from a similar age/time in career?
 

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