List Mgmt. List Management Thread

[FR0GGY]

Think we had a player equally homesick

Not homesick he was just a beach boy at heart.

 

[MarcusP2]

Kinda wonder if someone is getting moved on who is on big dollars or if Melbourne are going to be a top 6 and nothing team.

It also can't be far til football follows the US model where players remain on a roster* after retirement getting paid the remainder of their contract.

*not sure if they are still on roster or just getting paid

Nah not on the roster, just deferred payments (which are then outside salary cap/luxury tax etc).

This really only happens in baseball.

 

[spenze]

Nah not on the roster, just deferred payments (which are then outside salary cap/luxury tax etc).

This really only happens in baseball.

Outside the cap...could see the clubs and AFLPA fighting for that

 

[cleanhands]

Oh wow that didn’t take long! Homesickness be gone!

Can go home now when his career is finished with a pocket full of cash

 

[MarcusP2]

Outside the cap...could see the clubs and AFLPA fighting for that

It happens in baseball because they don't have a salary cap, and they do things like Ohtani being paid $2M a year now and then $68M a year in 10 years time (when he's probably retired). So it frees up cash so the superstar can have good teammates.

 

[DJ75]

He hasn't necessarily been improving at the same rate he was - unless you consider his defensive work, as he's been a big part of the work we do putting pressure around the contest.

Definitely playing a more defensive role. Still think he has a level to go up though. If he does, we are a real threat.

 

[spenze]

It happens in baseball because they don't have a salary cap, and they do things like Ohtani being paid $2M a year now and then $68M a year in 10 years time (when he's probably retired). So it frees up cash so the superstar can have good teammates.

Cheers for the info on that.

 

[WhiskeyTangoFoxtrot]

I think they're waiting on Sam Draper from the Bombers to make up his mind on what he's doing he seems like the plan at the moment which is why they haven't given ROB the longer contract he wants. I wouldn't be opposed to getting Draper and Marshall in together as a two ruck combo

We don't need ROB, Draper and TT in the same team.

I don't rate rucks at all, so I'd be fine with not getting Draper and ROB going if he wants too much money or too many years. Just go with TT sharing the ruck with a no-name ruck option that we get for cheap $$$.

Have a look at the premiers for the last 15 years. In most premiership teams the ruckman has been a B-grader at best.

Darcy Fort
Mason Cox
Rhys Stanley
Max Gawn
Toby Nankervis
Toby Nankervis
Scott Lycett
Toby Nankervis
Jordan Roughead
David Hale
David Hale
Max Bailey
Shane Mumford
Brad Ottens
Darren Jolly

Out of those, I'd argue that only Max Gawn, Shane Mumford and Brad Ottens would be A-graders and Max is the only A-grade ruckman in the last 12 years to have won a flag.

In many cases the better ruckman was on the losing GF team.

 

[ams4crows]

Perspective from two former AFL players who think there's no way the manager wouldn't know how he's feeling

 

[I Lost My Keays]

Perspective from two former AFL players who think there's no way the manager wouldn't know how he's feeling

Disgusting behaviour from Wilson. I would love if NWM, his manager or AFC takes this further

 

[Trigger13]

Sounds totally legit. I can understand how in the nine months after getting called out for having the alias on the Port board and then having posters throw it in your face for the next month...you'd forget the name.

FFS. Stop talking shit. I’ve told you I’m not Bevoman. Accept it and move on. You’re like a school yard bully.

 

[Redline]

ROB said on 5AA we tabled a 2 year offer at the beginning of the year and we haven’t spoken since, doesn’t sound like we are too keen.

Must mean we have a ruckman lined up, most likely Draper.

 

[spenze]

FFS. Stop talking shit. I’ve told you I’m not Bevoman. Accept it and move on. You’re like a school yard bully.

#Bevomansbully

 

[spenze]

Must mean we have a ruckman lined up, most likely Draper.

Not a comforting thought.

I wonder if the $ value for rucks had diminished after the Grundy events. No doubt Grundy is a good ruck but was it worth giving him a cool, cool million a year? History tells us that it wasn't and I wonder if that has had a flow on effect to the stock value across the board?

Of course if we give Draper a 6 year 900k contract then that blows that theory out of the water, hopefully we are doing this smartly...

 

[Crow till I die]

#Bevomansbully

I'm Eugene Bevoman

 

[Coopers]

FFS. Stop talking shit. I’ve told you I’m not Bevoman. Accept it and move on. You’re like a school yard bully.

Can I be Bevoman?

 

[ABAB]

Must mean we have a ruckman lined up, most likely Draper.

Then why even offer any contract to RoB?

 

[GreyCrow]

Nah not on the roster, just deferred payments (which are then outside salary cap/luxury tax etc).

This really only happens in baseball.

Bobby Bonilla Day is an annual event celebrated on July 1st where the New York Mets pay their former player, Bobby Bonilla, a deferred salary payment. This payment is part of a deferred contract agreement, resulting in a million dollar check being sent to Bonilla each year, according to FOX Sports. The agreement, which includes 8% annual interest, extends until 2035.

 

[spenze]

Can I be Bevoman?

He could give you the log ins for sure, seems to want to offer log ins for most things

 

[spenze]

Bobby Bonilla Day is an annual event celebrated on July 1st where the New York Mets pay their former player, Bobby Bonilla, a deferred salary payment. This payment is part of a deferred contract agreement, resulting in a million dollar check being sent to Bonilla each year, according to FOX Sports. The agreement, which includes 8% annual interest, extends until 2035.

That is a great story, the guy must be stoked. Had to make his money last ten years and then onto a gravy train

 

[Drugs Are Bad Mackay?]

Then why even offer any contract to RoB?

Our order of preference might be:

1. ROB on low money / short deal
2. Draper on big money / longer deal
3. ROB on big money / longer deal

 

[Danger in Texas]

Will be interesting to see what other kind of offers ROB gets, from Lions/Cats etc

Surely not more than three years, at his age?

 

[spenze]

Then why even offer any contract to RoB?

I reckon the idea was to pay Rob enough to be a backup ruck. He'd get great money for basically playing SANFL and then be a known quantity when he came in. I reckon that is half our trouble as a club. We like a known quantity, which is why we value experience over everything else.

 

[spenze]

Will be interesting to see what other kind of offers ROB gets, from Lions/Cats etc

Surely not more than three years, at his age?

4 years, 1 mil

 

[Golumless]

Then why even offer any contract to RoB?

Because he's the backup?

You don't abandon them, just string them along.