List Mgmt. List Management Thread

[1990crow]

Cotton also spent time with us as a coach.

What period?
Edit - 2015 and 2016 apparently when we weren't half bad.

 

[Cleric]

Gettable saying we're chasing Indy Cotton as a Cat B Rookie. Talk he'd be a top 20 pick in the open draft. Port Adelaide, Brisbane, Gold Coast, West Coast, Collingwood, Essendon and Geelong all after him too, so I'd expect we don't get him.

Dad is Jarrod Cotton who played/coached at Port and now at the Suns as an Academy coach.

Anyone know who Indy supports in the AFL? Surely it's us?

 

[Drugs Are Bad Mackay?]

Not sure about that. He reportedly had offers from other clubs. He more just seems like someone who wants to stay where he's comfortable and with mates.

I doubt he's had any offers from other clubs

And if he has and leaves it's not the worst thing

 

[Scorpus]

I doubt he's had any offers from other clubs

And if he has and leaves it's not the worst thing

I'm sure clubs all over the league send through lowball offers all the time. They'd rather have Milera on $150k than a fourth round draftee

The question is whether the offers are legitimately reasonable. Not sure there would be many clubs offering big deals

 

[Jeffcrowe]

No. Keane definitely has to be moved on. You can't fix his flaws. A dumb footballer with no natural instinct is always going to be a liability.

This is looking a bit of a dubious call

No natural instincts other than taking multiple intercept marks and a couple match saving when game on line ( hawthorn 2023 / port 2025 )

 

[Jeffcrowe]

Yeah the way I see it, if he was top 10-15 on our list at his age and had a history of health, you’d be happy with three years, hell you’d probably go to four

He’s in that 15-25 range as it stands, though. Two years is definitely the maximum I would’ve gone

Perfect summary

I’d back in him in for 2 years as well , we prob need players in that age bracket and if he could find 2 injury free years he’d prob be pretty important

 

[1990crow]

This is looking a bit of a dubious call

No natural instincts other than taking multiple intercept marks and a couple match saving when game on line ( hawthorn 2023 / port 2025 )

To be fair Keane also lost a few important one on ones that led to goals too, something that happens too regularly.
Hopefully as the games tick by its an area he gets better at because his intercepting is more than useful.
That and maybe kick within his limitations more.

 

[Jeffcrowe]

I doubt he's had any offers from other clubs

And if he has and leaves it's not the worst thing

Reckon he would have had offers

But agree with last bit

 

[1990crow]

Reckon he would have had offers

But agree with last bit

Feels like our depth won't be great next year with Tex likely gone, Burgess gone, Schoenberg gone, and Nicks not having tried Edwards or Ryan.

 

[Jeffcrowe]

To be fair Keane also lost a few important one on ones that led to goals too, something that happens too regularly.
Hopefully as the games tick by its an area he gets better at because his intercepting is more than useful.
That and maybe kick within his limitations more.

The kick stuff is hilarious , go watch the showdown back and tell me one bad kick he made

Just because a guy makes one howler occasionally doesn’t mean the kick options are bad

You also need to consider the agressive kicks he pulls off like not many others

Go look at his DE across the games which is very good for someone who doesn’t go safe and helps creates scores

 

[Jeffcrowe]

Feels like our depth won't be great next year with Tex likely gone, Burgess gone, Schoenberg gone, and Nicks not having tried Edwards or Ryan.

Edwards has to debut against eagles next week

 

[Jeffcrowe]

To be fair Keane also lost a few important one on ones that led to goals too, something that happens too regularly.
Hopefully as the games tick by its an area he gets better at because his intercepting is more than useful.
That and maybe kick within his limitations more.

Also most of keanes losses were ground ball , butts lost way more aerial contests than Keane

Butts gave away 3 free kicks in marking contests that if Keane had of done would have got slaughtered in here , I still think Butts played well

When we lose it’s not because of our defenders , it’s been because of our midfield

 

[1990crow]

The kick stuff is hilarious , go watch the showdown back and tell me one bad kick he made

Just because a guy makes one howler occasionally doesn’t mean the kick options are bad

You also need to consider the agressive kicks he pulls off like not many others

Go look at his DE across the games which is very good for someone who doesn’t go safe and helps creates scores

The last quarter that led to a turnover and goal? Least think it was last quarter, it's on kayo mini.

 

[Jeffcrowe]

The last quarter that led to a turnover and goal? Least think it was last quarter, it's on kayo mini.

Stretching it

Maybe he missed a couple of targets but no howlers

Went at 83% DE and didn’t just dab 20m kicks to side

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Happy enough for him to sign for a year.... but 3 ?

Surely we have clauses about games played to reach 3rd year, particularly given his injury run.

We have already been burnt from his current long term contract.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Feels like our depth won't be great next year with Tex likely gone, Burgess gone, Schoenberg gone, and Nicks not having tried Edwards or Ryan.

Hard to develop depth when the selectors won't play Bond, Edwards, Ryan, etc... & play Milers ahead of Nankervis.

 

[1990crow]

Stretching it

Maybe he missed a couple of targets but no howlers

Went at 83% DE and didn’t just dab 20m kicks to side

You asked for an example and said it wouldn't exist.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Edwards has to debut against eagles next week

Or this week for Tex, with Curtin going forward.

 

[1970crow]

I doubt he's had any offers from other clubs

And if he has and leaves it's not the worst thing

Opening up a spot to roll kids through whilst getting compo for Milera would be a positive.

 

[1970crow]

Edwards has to debut against eagles next week

No chance.

 

[Drugs Are Bad Mackay?]

No chance.

Yep

Edwards will need two out of Laird, Smith and Milera to get a significant injury (not just a niggle) in order to play

 

[GreyCrow]

, and Nicks not having tried Edwards or Ryan.

It's not like they only joined us either

 

[Jeffcrowe]

No chance.

Hope there’s some foresight

 

[Jeffcrowe]

Yep

Edwards will need two out of Laird, Smith and Milera to get a significant injury (not just a niggle) in order to play

Good chance to rest Tex and Milera that day , time will tell

 

[Jeffcrowe]

You asked for an example and said it wouldn't exist.

Had a look and didn’t see it