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What timeframe are you looking at? As far as I can tell, they've only had 2 top 10 picks in the last 10 years.

They've really only been awful since 2022, which is the last 3 drafts. Prior to that they were consistent finalists, winning the flag in 2018.

2024 (16th)
Traded pick #3 to Carlton, as part of the Liam Baker & Matthew Owies trade. West Coast also ended up with pick #12 as part of the trade, so they moved out of the top-10 but not out of the 1st round.

2023 (18th)
Pick #1 - Harley Reid

2022 (17th)
Pick #9 - Reuben Ginbey, Pick #14 - Elijah Hewett
This was the result of a big pick swap involving Port, Norf & GWS. The Weagles traded out pick #2, trading in picks #8 and #12 and some later picks.

2021 (9th)
Pick #14 - Campbell Chesser
They did a pick swap with Port, trading out pick #12 for pick #14 and a 2nd round pick. No top-10 picks involved this year.

2020 (5th)
1st Round pick traded out as part of the Tim Kelly trade in 2019.

2019 (5th)
Pick #14 traded to Geelong for Tim Kelly. No top-10 picks involved this year.

2018 (1st)
No top-10 picks involved. Not sure what happened

2017 (6th)
Pick #13 - Jarrod Brander. No top-10 picks involved this year.

2016 (7th)
Pick #13 - Daniel Venables. No top-10 picks involved this year.

2015 (2nd)
No top-10 picks involved.
2022 will piss me off forever, absolute highway robbery to allow Port to get JHF for next to nothing.
 
2022 will piss me off forever, absolute highway robbery to allow Port to get JHF for next to nothing.
Meh. We were never going to get him once we didn't get the trade done with North.
Would I want him? Absolutely. Am I convinced he becomes a Dangerfield clone?

Not sure. Don't think he has the drive Danger had.
 
Meh. We were never going to get him once we didn't get the trade done with North.
Would I want him? Absolutely. Am I convinced he becomes a Dangerfield clone?

Not sure. Don't think he has the drive Danger had.
Not about us getting him, it's about Port paying 3/5ths of FA for him and Rioli.
 

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So trying to read the tea leaves:

  • NWM wants to come home
  • the contract (at least with us) will be the best on offer (with Saints said to be willing to match). Doubt Port are offering chump change either
  • don’t think hanging around for two more years puts much more on his contract given the terms purportedly being offered
  • Saints aren’t winning anything in the next two years

So why stay? Because he doesn’t think his preferred club can get the trade done.

With Bergman re-signing and Butters saying he isn’t leaving this year, Port have little currency and would struggle to get the deal done.

Adelaide has some currency - but would have to work to find more. I think we could do it but need to wear some pain.

Pessimistic conclusion - he’s not interested in Adelaide. If he was, he would come now.

He is interested in Port, but they can’t get a deal done, so he stays for two more years and hopes they’ll be in a better position to trade.
 
So trying to read the tea leaves:

  • NWM wants to come home
  • the contract (at least with us) will be the best on offer (with Saints said to be willing to match). Doubt Port are offering chump change either
  • don’t think hanging around for two more years puts much more on his contract given the terms purportedly being offered
  • Saints aren’t winning anything in the next two years

So why stay? Because he doesn’t think his preferred club can get the trade done.

With Bergman re-signing and Butters saying he isn’t leaving this year, Port have little currency and would struggle to get the deal done.

Adelaide has some currency - but would have to work to find more. I think we could do it but need to wear some pain.

Pessimistic conclusion - he’s not interested in Adelaide. If he was, he would come now.

He is interested in Port, but they can’t get a deal done, so he stays for two more years and hopes they’ll be in a better position to trade.
The Saints were one of the clubs actively chasing Dan Curtin - I suspect they were hoping to lure him in and then involve him into a potential trade deal.
 
Are you seeing any chance he might come to the Crows?
Full transparency - my intel on this is coming from club side, not the player’s agent, so I’m not totally across what he’s thinking or what the preferences are in terms of club (I’m only reading the tea leaves like everyone else on that).

Not trying to sit on the fence, but the fact the clubs are still in talks this late suggests there’s at least a flicker of hope something could happen.
 

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Full transparency - my intel on this is coming from club side, not the player’s agent, so I’m not totally across what he’s thinking or what the preferences are in terms of club (I’m only reading the tea leaves like everyone else on that).

Not trying to sit on the fence, but the fact the clubs are still in talks this late suggests there’s at least a flicker of hope something could happen.
Love your work even if your a Carlton supporter 😁
 
Cal Twomey reporting NMW has a big interest in Jase Burgoyne’s contract status.

FWIW Twomey also said Burgoyne likely to extend for 4 years
 

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