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Samcro24 said:
Someone mentioned Luko BZT Ratatouille taking up ports cap.

We seem to be doing the same albeit with less shit players.

Our strategy is get whoever will come, regardless of if it fills a need or not.
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What has harmed Port is losing quality picks, particularly when they also took a salary dump on 2 ex Gold Coast players.

This has meant they have been topping up from the sanfl rather than the national draft.
 
Kane McGoodwin said:
Paying little overs to attract players only becomes a problem if we the lose players we then can't afford.

Given we had a younger list & been front loading most of our young talent, I don’t belive this is an issue.

Sure we would always like more A grade players, but important to improve the list with non A graders too.
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Yeh, reckon we’ve fitted them in comfortably at this stage, even had a solid crack at Petracca and NWM, so room is still there. And 2 of them came with no trade collateral at all, which helps a lot too. Overall a decent win I reckon, but I do struggle to get past how disappointing Cumming has been.
 
1970crow said:
Yeh, reckon we’ve fitted them in comfortably at this stage, even had a solid crack at Petracca and NWM, so room is still there. And 2 of them came with no trade collateral at all, which helps a lot too. Overall a decent win I reckon, but I do struggle to get past how disappointing Cumming has been.
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It helps if you see view him in the 650-700k range rather than 800k. Nothing I’ve seen suggests anything otherwise.
 
Samcro24 said:
Someone mentioned Luko BZT Ratatouille taking up ports cap.

We seem to be doing the same albeit with less shit players.

Our strategy is get whoever will come, regardless of if it fills a need or not.
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Apparently we can offer $10M for Bailey so not sure we have filled our cap to excess on midrange players.
 

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1970crow said:
Yeh, reckon we’ve fitted them in comfortably at this stage, even had a solid crack at Petracca and NWM, so room is still there. And 2 of them came with no trade collateral at all, which helps a lot too. Overall a decent win I reckon, but I do struggle to get past how disappointing Cumming has been.
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If we had more salary to offer pretacca, maybe he would have came here. So far anb, ah chee, peatling, and cumming have all been disappointing.

ANB the best of the lot so far. Cumming probably the worst. Just total non entities. Much better than mchenry and co, just a little disappointing
 
Afcprophet said:
If we had more salary to offer pretacca, maybe he would have came here. So far anb, ah chee, peatling, and cumming have all been disappointing.

ANB the best of the lot so far. Cumming probably the worst. Just total non entities. Much better than mchenry and co, just a little disappointing
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I think our issue with Petracca was more about role and getting close to satisfying Melbourne.
 
Assume this thread is for 2026 also

H Sun today has Bailey at 1 in terms of their criteria as per below



Before you proceed, take a chill pill.
This is NOT a list of the AFL’s best 90 players.

It is a trade value index that rates every player against the best in the league based on how much you would give up to get them to your club.

It is this simple - would you trade the player on this list with the bloke above or below them?

Based on their age (and seasons left in their career), their game-changing talent, and how easy or hard it would be to trade for them?

It is a list that relates directly to a player’s trade value, age, contract status and talent.

It can be as simple as this - would Collingwood trade Nick Daicos for Nas Wanganeen-Milera if you lined them up back-to-back?

But it is as complicated and nuanced as comparing Zak Butters’ free agency status (restricted, but Port Adelaide would match a bid and force a trade) to Zac Bailey (the Lions would be unlikely to match a monster rival bid).

Consider that you are from a club in the middle 12 - not on a list cliff and trying to win that final flag and not at rock bottom and trying to rebuild.

Remember that age matters.

Durability matters.

And position matters - key position players and star mids still rule the roost.

Yes, it is absolutely inspired by Bill Simmons trade value rankings, and why not given the heater the US sports and pop culture expert has been on this year (Limitless at 16, if you know you know).

It is a very different list given the NBA has rules around supermax contracts and ‘apron’ deals that limit sides from building super-teams.

But think of it this way - if you were building a club you would use this list to rank your players of interest.


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Zac Bailey

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Are you on drugs, Ralphy? Thanks for the show of support, but no. Is he in the AFL’s top 20 players? Probably not. But Adelaide is offering $10 million over seven years - and would likely be prepared to front-end some of that cash. Brisbane surely couldn’t match that deal. They are already complaining about market forces, even after paying $1.7 million for free agents Sam Draper and Oscar Allen. What a 2025 season - 42 goals, 520 possessions, 3.6 and 23 possessions in the Grand Final. Remember the trade value rules, folks. It’s not the best player, it’s the best trade value RIGHT NOW. I will keep pointing to the sign if I need to (Can we make a sign, social media crew). And clubs will believe they can secure him for TDK-style cash without giving up a single draft pick. If you could build a list would you take 26-year-old Bailey as a free agent or Daicos for four first-round picks? The answer is Bailey
 
Afcprophet said:
If we had more salary to offer pretacca, maybe he would have came here. So far anb, ah chee, peatling, and cumming have all been disappointing.

ANB the best of the lot so far. Cumming probably the worst. Just total non entities. Much better than mchenry and co, just a little disappointing
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Our 3 players are all solid AFL footballers. We gave up 2 x second rounders for them in total and they replaced worse players like Mc Henry as you identified. ANB the oldest at 29 when we he played his first game for us.

Pets, clearly is the better player as a #2 draft pick initially, but had had a major injury scare in 2023 and also his form had dipped materially since 2020/2021. He also cost 3 x first rounders which we didnt have, a much higher (and now justified) salary of 1m or more and was 30 when playing his first game

Hindsight is always obvious but its nothing like apples with apples here.

We went all in on NWM and my hope, with Power clearly showing they are even worse than what I first thought (approx 12th best team in the league), that they are in for MANY years of pain. Why in the heck would NWM leave an underwhelming small club like Saints to go to an even worse clubs list in the Power. If he chooses to come home end of 2027 I would think - as Reidy did last year - that we have as much chance of gaining Nas as Power do
 
Mutineer said:
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Adelaide list boss Jarryd Roughead talks all things Crows after joining the club​

In his first interview since joining the club, Adelaide list boss Jarryd Roughead talks what the Crows need to contend for a premiership and plenty more.

New Adelaide list boss Jarryd Roughead says he believes the Crows are in a similar position to former club Hawthorn in that they are looking for a “couple of extra pieces” to get them contending for a premiership.
The four-time flag winning Hawks great was appointed as the Crows list boss last month, replacing Justin Reid after he was poached by the AFL.

Roughead comes to the Crows after being player acquisition manager for the Hawks, as well as a wide-ranging off-field role at St Kilda.
In an exclusive interview with Code Sports, Roughead said the Crows’ list only needed an extra player or two.

“Full credit to ‘Reidy’ and Hamish (Ogilvie), from Reidy’s point of view I think he has left the club in a great spot where the list sits,” he said.

“Minor premiers last year, I think now it is very similar to what Hawthorn is trying to do in that they just need a couple of extra pieces to get them there on that final Saturday in September.

“You are always looking to improve your list and I think the Crows have been very good in the draft in recent years I think now you are searching for some real match winners that can hopefully put you over the top.”

The Hawks brought in key defenders Tom Barrass and Josh Battle ahead of the 2025 season and tried to lure former Essendon captain Zach Merrett in last year’s trade period as they look for an A-Grade midfielder.

The Crows snared Brisbane’s dual-premiership winner Callum Ah Chee at the end of last year and have also been public in their desire to land an A-Grade midfielder.

They are hoping to lure star free agent Zac Bailey out of Brisbane with a huge offer.
Meanwhile, South Australian local and Hawthorn star midfielder Will Day’s current contract expires at the end of next year.

When asked about those two potential targets, Roughead said he would be a list manager that didn’t speak about players from other clubs in the media.

“I’ve come from two clubs that respectfully try not to talk about the opposition too much,” he said.

“They’re doing their thing, you want to make sure that in this role you are doing things the correct way with process.

“So yeah I don’t think you’ll hear me talking about too many players from opposition clubs.”

The strength of the Crows midfield has been a big talking point around Matthew Nicks’ side already this season, and the senior coach himself lamented their first-quarter smashing in clearances by Fremantle in their Good Friday loss on Friday night.
Roughead said the Crows midfield had been “in it” at times during games this year but it could be improved.

“I’ve only been in it (the role) three weeks so it is not as if I can come in and automatically think I do know what to do straight away,” he said.

“It is going to take time to understand how the Crows operate, get to know a lot of people in the building but also the players.

“I think if every team had the chance to improve their list, whether it be midfield, forward or defence you take the opportunity.

“This season has probably shown that we’re in it at certain points in games, but we’d like to hopefully add a few more pieces that can win us some games too.”

While the Crows have been public that they are on the hunt for an A-Grader, there is also belief that young guns Dan Curtin and Sid Draper can become top-line midfielders.

Curtin is targeting a return in Round 8, when the Crows take on Port Adelaide in a Friday night Showdown, after the former No. 8 draft picks’ dislocated kneecap in a wrestling drill in pre-season.
Draper, a former No. 4 pick, has started the season in the SANFL as the Crows build up his body after a stop-start pre-season.

He had 19 disposals and six clearances in the loss to Woodville-West Torrens on Thursday.

Roughead said the Crows needed to be patient with the young talent.

“When you draft these guys with early picks you have high hopes for them, but they take time,” he said.

“Guys can take three or four years until they really hit their straps in the system.

“And it is not just those two, there’s a number of boys that are probably midfielders that we haven’t got to see yet due to the Crows being quite healthy and fit (in recent years).

“And this is probably the first time that we’re seeing the depth tested for a couple of years with how many injuries we’ve had to start the season.”

The ruck position has also been a big talking point around the Crows so far this season.

The new ruck rules have resulted in Lachlan McAndrew unseating leadership group member Reilly O’Brien as the Crows No. 1 option and after the club re-signed O’Brien for three more years with no knowledge of the incoming changes.
Against Fremantle the Crows went with both rucks against the Dockers’ duo of Luke Jackson and Sean Darcy.

On Saturday Crows footy boss Adam Kelly told Grandstand SA the work of McAndrew and O’Brien was a “positive”.

Roughead said he was happy with the ruck depth on the list.

“I think with the rule changes, you’ve got to give a bit of time to work out how the comp sits,” he said.

“We are four games into a season with rule changes that came in just before Christmas.

“We’ve got a small sample size and Lachie has started the season off very well but in saying that it is not just one ruckman.

“We have the depth with what is there on the list, there was two on Friday night, I dare say there will be changes throughout the year depending on match-ups and what not.”

After his 283-game career for the Hawks – in which he also claimed a Coleman Medal, was a two-time All-Australian and captain of the club in addition to his four flags – ended Roughead quickly gravitated to recruitment and list management.

“Since my playing days list management has been an area that I’ve always been interested in due to interest in American sports and how they do a lot of things over there with free agency, trades, contracts and what not,” he said.

“And then when Adelaide reached out it is something you kind of jump at, there are only 19 of these jobs in Australia.”
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this time last year we had 2 competitive advs imo - reidy and burgess. both have now left the club. fitness wise i concede afc 979810 may be right. things have turned down since burgo has left

whether roughy is anywhere near as good as reids last few years where he dominated with trades - both players and price paid, and continued good draft swaps (curtin) - remains to be seen

but reids first few years were a little underwhelming overall - not many (no?) in bound quality trades the first of handful of years, had some good draft picks swaps though (blues first in 2019 etc) and (in hindsight with the way players are now valued) could have been more demanding with danger.

my concern is roughy is now starting out in this role re negotiations involves needing all of strategic, cunning and ruthless abilities (roughy needs to prove ALL of these points), strong industry relationships and respect and obviously being able to market the club and city (he should be fine with the last 2 attributes, esp with our recent player wins and talk about 'destination adelaide')

just not sure how everyone is so bullish about this guy though. if we had got the lions guy or cats guy (along with state based recruitment networks) then thats one thing. we tried for dees guy.

i just think roughy has a lot to prove here and time will tell how he goes. that said, 80% of the work has been done already by reidy inc re-contracting all major quality players AND offering bailey the huge offer (and planting the nwm, seed for end of next year)
 
119others said:
this time last year we had 2 competitive advs imo - reidy and burgess. both have now left the club. fitness wise i concede afc 979810 may be right. things have turned down since burgo has left

whether roughy is anywhere near as good as reids last few years where he dominated with trades - both players and price paid, and continued good draft swaps (curtin) - remains to be seen

but reids first few years were a little underwhelming overall - not many (no?) in bound quality trades the first of handful of years, had some good draft picks swaps though (blues first in 2019 etc) and (in hindsight with the way players are now valued) could have been more demanding with danger.

my concern is roughy is now starting out in this role re negotiations involves needing all of strategic, cunning and ruthless abilities (roughy needs to prove ALL of these points), strong industry relationships and respect and obviously being able to market the club and city (he should be fine with the last 2 attributes, esp with our recent player wins and talk about 'destination adelaide')

just not sure how everyone is so bullish about this guy though. if we had got the lions guy or cats guy (along with state based recruitment networks) then thats one thing. we tried for dees guy.

i just think roughy has a lot to prove here and time will tell how he goes. that said, 80% of the work has been done already by reidy inc re-contracting all major quality players AND offering bailey the huge offer (and planting the nwm, seed for end of next year)
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Noble negotiated the danger trade.
 

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Mutineer said:
Large article, hopefully it's OK and the mods leave it up long enough for all to read it through.


Adelaide list boss Jarryd Roughead talks all things Crows after joining the club​

In his first interview since joining the club, Adelaide list boss Jarryd Roughead talks what the Crows need to contend for a premiership and plenty more.

New Adelaide list boss Jarryd Roughead says he believes the Crows are in a similar position to former club Hawthorn in that they are looking for a “couple of extra pieces” to get them contending for a premiership.
The four-time flag winning Hawks great was appointed as the Crows list boss last month, replacing Justin Reid after he was poached by the AFL.

Roughead comes to the Crows after being player acquisition manager for the Hawks, as well as a wide-ranging off-field role at St Kilda.
In an exclusive interview with Code Sports, Roughead said the Crows’ list only needed an extra player or two.

“Full credit to ‘Reidy’ and Hamish (Ogilvie), from Reidy’s point of view I think he has left the club in a great spot where the list sits,” he said.

“Minor premiers last year, I think now it is very similar to what Hawthorn is trying to do in that they just need a couple of extra pieces to get them there on that final Saturday in September.

“You are always looking to improve your list and I think the Crows have been very good in the draft in recent years I think now you are searching for some real match winners that can hopefully put you over the top.”

The Hawks brought in key defenders Tom Barrass and Josh Battle ahead of the 2025 season and tried to lure former Essendon captain Zach Merrett in last year’s trade period as they look for an A-Grade midfielder.

The Crows snared Brisbane’s dual-premiership winner Callum Ah Chee at the end of last year and have also been public in their desire to land an A-Grade midfielder.

They are hoping to lure star free agent Zac Bailey out of Brisbane with a huge offer.
Meanwhile, South Australian local and Hawthorn star midfielder Will Day’s current contract expires at the end of next year.

When asked about those two potential targets, Roughead said he would be a list manager that didn’t speak about players from other clubs in the media.

“I’ve come from two clubs that respectfully try not to talk about the opposition too much,” he said.

“They’re doing their thing, you want to make sure that in this role you are doing things the correct way with process.

“So yeah I don’t think you’ll hear me talking about too many players from opposition clubs.”

The strength of the Crows midfield has been a big talking point around Matthew Nicks’ side already this season, and the senior coach himself lamented their first-quarter smashing in clearances by Fremantle in their Good Friday loss on Friday night.
Roughead said the Crows midfield had been “in it” at times during games this year but it could be improved.

“I’ve only been in it (the role) three weeks so it is not as if I can come in and automatically think I do know what to do straight away,” he said.

“It is going to take time to understand how the Crows operate, get to know a lot of people in the building but also the players.

“I think if every team had the chance to improve their list, whether it be midfield, forward or defence you take the opportunity.

“This season has probably shown that we’re in it at certain points in games, but we’d like to hopefully add a few more pieces that can win us some games too.”

While the Crows have been public that they are on the hunt for an A-Grader, there is also belief that young guns Dan Curtin and Sid Draper can become top-line midfielders.

Curtin is targeting a return in Round 8, when the Crows take on Port Adelaide in a Friday night Showdown, after the former No. 8 draft picks’ dislocated kneecap in a wrestling drill in pre-season.
Draper, a former No. 4 pick, has started the season in the SANFL as the Crows build up his body after a stop-start pre-season.

He had 19 disposals and six clearances in the loss to Woodville-West Torrens on Thursday.

Roughead said the Crows needed to be patient with the young talent.

“When you draft these guys with early picks you have high hopes for them, but they take time,” he said.

“Guys can take three or four years until they really hit their straps in the system.

“And it is not just those two, there’s a number of boys that are probably midfielders that we haven’t got to see yet due to the Crows being quite healthy and fit (in recent years).

“And this is probably the first time that we’re seeing the depth tested for a couple of years with how many injuries we’ve had to start the season.”

The ruck position has also been a big talking point around the Crows so far this season.

The new ruck rules have resulted in Lachlan McAndrew unseating leadership group member Reilly O’Brien as the Crows No. 1 option and after the club re-signed O’Brien for three more years with no knowledge of the incoming changes.
Against Fremantle the Crows went with both rucks against the Dockers’ duo of Luke Jackson and Sean Darcy.

On Saturday Crows footy boss Adam Kelly told Grandstand SA the work of McAndrew and O’Brien was a “positive”.

Roughead said he was happy with the ruck depth on the list.

“I think with the rule changes, you’ve got to give a bit of time to work out how the comp sits,” he said.

“We are four games into a season with rule changes that came in just before Christmas.

“We’ve got a small sample size and Lachie has started the season off very well but in saying that it is not just one ruckman.

“We have the depth with what is there on the list, there was two on Friday night, I dare say there will be changes throughout the year depending on match-ups and what not.”

After his 283-game career for the Hawks – in which he also claimed a Coleman Medal, was a two-time All-Australian and captain of the club in addition to his four flags – ended Roughead quickly gravitated to recruitment and list management.

“Since my playing days list management has been an area that I’ve always been interested in due to interest in American sports and how they do a lot of things over there with free agency, trades, contracts and what not,” he said.

“And then when Adelaide reached out it is something you kind of jump at, there are only 19 of these jobs in Australia.”
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Its really a nothing article. He isnt going to come in and create waves...not publicly. Of course he is happy with the Ruck depth because we have two full timers and handy 3rd and developing 4th part timers if needed. You wont dedicate much more to ruck depth than that in a list of 40. Plus you can also add a couple 197cm players into the mix for part time duties. this depth is new as we only got this in the last 12 months.

He is stating the obvious really with young players. As the saying goes though they have 50 games if they get them.
 
Mutineer said:
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Adelaide list boss Jarryd Roughead talks all things Crows after joining the club​

In his first interview since joining the club, Adelaide list boss Jarryd Roughead talks what the Crows need to contend for a premiership and plenty more.

New Adelaide list boss Jarryd Roughead says he believes the Crows are in a similar position to former club Hawthorn in that they are looking for a “couple of extra pieces” to get them contending for a premiership.
The four-time flag winning Hawks great was appointed as the Crows list boss last month, replacing Justin Reid after he was poached by the AFL.

Roughead comes to the Crows after being player acquisition manager for the Hawks, as well as a wide-ranging off-field role at St Kilda.
In an exclusive interview with Code Sports, Roughead said the Crows’ list only needed an extra player or two.

“Full credit to ‘Reidy’ and Hamish (Ogilvie), from Reidy’s point of view I think he has left the club in a great spot where the list sits,” he said.

“Minor premiers last year, I think now it is very similar to what Hawthorn is trying to do in that they just need a couple of extra pieces to get them there on that final Saturday in September.

“You are always looking to improve your list and I think the Crows have been very good in the draft in recent years I think now you are searching for some real match winners that can hopefully put you over the top.”

The Hawks brought in key defenders Tom Barrass and Josh Battle ahead of the 2025 season and tried to lure former Essendon captain Zach Merrett in last year’s trade period as they look for an A-Grade midfielder.

The Crows snared Brisbane’s dual-premiership winner Callum Ah Chee at the end of last year and have also been public in their desire to land an A-Grade midfielder.

They are hoping to lure star free agent Zac Bailey out of Brisbane with a huge offer.
Meanwhile, South Australian local and Hawthorn star midfielder Will Day’s current contract expires at the end of next year.

When asked about those two potential targets, Roughead said he would be a list manager that didn’t speak about players from other clubs in the media.

“I’ve come from two clubs that respectfully try not to talk about the opposition too much,” he said.

“They’re doing their thing, you want to make sure that in this role you are doing things the correct way with process.

“So yeah I don’t think you’ll hear me talking about too many players from opposition clubs.”

The strength of the Crows midfield has been a big talking point around Matthew Nicks’ side already this season, and the senior coach himself lamented their first-quarter smashing in clearances by Fremantle in their Good Friday loss on Friday night.
Roughead said the Crows midfield had been “in it” at times during games this year but it could be improved.

“I’ve only been in it (the role) three weeks so it is not as if I can come in and automatically think I do know what to do straight away,” he said.

“It is going to take time to understand how the Crows operate, get to know a lot of people in the building but also the players.

“I think if every team had the chance to improve their list, whether it be midfield, forward or defence you take the opportunity.

“This season has probably shown that we’re in it at certain points in games, but we’d like to hopefully add a few more pieces that can win us some games too.”

While the Crows have been public that they are on the hunt for an A-Grader, there is also belief that young guns Dan Curtin and Sid Draper can become top-line midfielders.

Curtin is targeting a return in Round 8, when the Crows take on Port Adelaide in a Friday night Showdown, after the former No. 8 draft picks’ dislocated kneecap in a wrestling drill in pre-season.
Draper, a former No. 4 pick, has started the season in the SANFL as the Crows build up his body after a stop-start pre-season.

He had 19 disposals and six clearances in the loss to Woodville-West Torrens on Thursday.

Roughead said the Crows needed to be patient with the young talent.

“When you draft these guys with early picks you have high hopes for them, but they take time,” he said.

“Guys can take three or four years until they really hit their straps in the system.

“And it is not just those two, there’s a number of boys that are probably midfielders that we haven’t got to see yet due to the Crows being quite healthy and fit (in recent years).

“And this is probably the first time that we’re seeing the depth tested for a couple of years with how many injuries we’ve had to start the season.”

The ruck position has also been a big talking point around the Crows so far this season.

The new ruck rules have resulted in Lachlan McAndrew unseating leadership group member Reilly O’Brien as the Crows No. 1 option and after the club re-signed O’Brien for three more years with no knowledge of the incoming changes.
Against Fremantle the Crows went with both rucks against the Dockers’ duo of Luke Jackson and Sean Darcy.

On Saturday Crows footy boss Adam Kelly told Grandstand SA the work of McAndrew and O’Brien was a “positive”.

Roughead said he was happy with the ruck depth on the list.

“I think with the rule changes, you’ve got to give a bit of time to work out how the comp sits,” he said.

“We are four games into a season with rule changes that came in just before Christmas.

“We’ve got a small sample size and Lachie has started the season off very well but in saying that it is not just one ruckman.

“We have the depth with what is there on the list, there was two on Friday night, I dare say there will be changes throughout the year depending on match-ups and what not.”

After his 283-game career for the Hawks – in which he also claimed a Coleman Medal, was a two-time All-Australian and captain of the club in addition to his four flags – ended Roughead quickly gravitated to recruitment and list management.

“Since my playing days list management has been an area that I’ve always been interested in due to interest in American sports and how they do a lot of things over there with free agency, trades, contracts and what not,” he said.

“And then when Adelaide reached out it is something you kind of jump at, there are only 19 of these jobs in Australia.”
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“It is going to take time to understand how the Crows operate"

For some reason this comment worries me
 
not sure where this should go re depth of clubs. lions ranked one from a quick glance


To decipher which club has the most to lean on when the going gets tough, Code Sports has dug deep into each playing list to rate those you don’t see every week. Each clubs has been rated on the ability of its backups across each line, with that rating taking in the quantity and quality of players ready to step up at a moment’s notice.

Youth is also rated, based on the quality of young players on the list - teams who have talented teens will score better here than those with a depth stuffed with older players winding their careers down.

And salary has also been rated, with a higher score coming for clubs that don’t have too much money tied up in players that don’t play. Injured or unavailable players are only listed if they are considered depth and not best-23 players, and minor injuries are generally not listed.


ADELAIDE​

Defence: 6/10 (Charlie Edwards, Oscar Ryan, James Borlase, Mitch Hinge)
Midfield: 4.5/10 (Luke Nankervis, Billy Dowling, Lachlan Sholl)
Forward: 5.5/10 (Finnbar Maley, Tyler Walsh, Zac Taylor, Mitchell Marsh, Archie Ludowyke, Toby Murray)
Ruck: 4/5 (Reilly O’Brien)
Injured: Sid Draper, Dan Curtin, Mark Keane
Youth: 6/10
Salary: 2.5/5
Total: 28.5/50 (Rank: X)
SuperCoach stud: Billy Dowling – Avg 100 points in 18 SANFL games in 2025.

A top four aspirant, the Crows have enough cover across the lines and their youth and midfield depth will be boosted when Sid Draper is back fit.

Reilly O’Brien is the most over-qualified back-up ruck in the league, but his wage reduces the club’s salary score.

Some more midfield young studs would be welcome for a club that is a little thin on that line, but the Crows are in good shape.




And our feral friends


The Power are struggling to start 2026 and as they face a list cliff, there isn’t a whole lot in reserve.

Some players like Jackson Mead and Ollie Lord haven’t kicked on, Brandon Zerk-Thatcher hasn’t impressed since joining the club.

There is some depth in the midfield but there isn’t much quality youth here either, with the Power having done a reasonable job at picking players from the fringes in recent years without top draft options.

Port Adelaide just needs more good players.
 
119others said:
not sure where this should go re depth of clubs. lions ranked one from a quick glance


To decipher which club has the most to lean on when the going gets tough, Code Sports has dug deep into each playing list to rate those you don’t see every week. Each clubs has been rated on the ability of its backups across each line, with that rating taking in the quantity and quality of players ready to step up at a moment’s notice.

Youth is also rated, based on the quality of young players on the list - teams who have talented teens will score better here than those with a depth stuffed with older players winding their careers down.

And salary has also been rated, with a higher score coming for clubs that don’t have too much money tied up in players that don’t play. Injured or unavailable players are only listed if they are considered depth and not best-23 players, and minor injuries are generally not listed.


ADELAIDE​

Defence: 6/10 (Charlie Edwards, Oscar Ryan, James Borlase, Mitch Hinge)
Midfield: 4.5/10 (Luke Nankervis, Billy Dowling, Lachlan Sholl)
Forward: 5.5/10 (Finnbar Maley, Tyler Walsh, Zac Taylor, Mitchell Marsh, Archie Ludowyke, Toby Murray)
Ruck: 4/5 (Reilly O’Brien)
Injured: Sid Draper, Dan Curtin, Mark Keane
Youth: 6/10
Salary: 2.5/5
Total: 28.5/50 (Rank: X)
SuperCoach stud: Billy Dowling – Avg 100 points in 18 SANFL games in 2025.

A top four aspirant, the Crows have enough cover across the lines and their youth and midfield depth will be boosted when Sid Draper is back fit.

Reilly O’Brien is the most over-qualified back-up ruck in the league, but his wage reduces the club’s salary score.

Some more midfield young studs would be welcome for a club that is a little thin on that line, but the Crows are in good shape.




And our feral friends


The Power are struggling to start 2026 and as they face a list cliff, there isn’t a whole lot in reserve.

Some players like Jackson Mead and Ollie Lord haven’t kicked on, Brandon Zerk-Thatcher hasn’t impressed since joining the club.

There is some depth in the midfield but there isn’t much quality youth here either, with the Power having done a reasonable job at picking players from the fringes in recent years without top draft options.

Port Adelaide just needs more good players.
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Any chance of posting each clubs summary scores?
 

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Jetwa5h said:
“It is going to take time to understand how the Crows operate"

For some reason this comment worries me
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I was surprised with what he said in SEN this morning about the process.

Adam Kelly reached out and he met with Kelly, Tim Silvers, Hamish and 'a few others'.

The finals piece of the puzzle was to get in front of Nicksy and that went well and he got the job.

The 'few others' may have been Gallagher or Balme. I would hope because none of Kelly, Silvers or Hamish are experienced in this kind of role.

Also I don't really get why Nick's had much say. There is no need for Roughead to be on the same page as Nick's given one is new and one is trying to keep his job.

Anyway he seems a good appointment.
 
Redline said:
I was surprised with what he said in SEN this morning about the process.

Adam Kelly reached out and he met with Kelly, Tim Silvers, Hamish and 'a few others'.

The finals piece of the puzzle was to get in front of Nicksy and that went well and he got the job.

The 'few others' may have been Gallagher or Balme. I would hope because none of Kelly, Silvers or Hamish are experienced in this kind of role.

Also I don't really get why Nick's had much say. There is no need for Roughead to be on the same page as Nick's given one is new and one is trying to keep his job.

Anyway he seems a good appointment.
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He'd work alongside Hamish and has a previous relationship with Silvers.... so yeah it makes sense that he'd talk to them.
 
Redline said:
Also I don't really get why Nick's had much say. There is no need for Roughead to be on the same page as Nick's given one is new and one is trying to keep his job.

Anyway he seems a good appointment.
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Surely there is otherwise you get nicks wasting games on players about to be delisted as we’ve seen each year
 
FR0GGY said:
Surely there is otherwise you get nicks wasting games on players about to be delisted as we’ve seen each year
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The list manager should have a working relationship with the senior coach.

"Listen Maffew, this guy is on the last year of a deal and we dont plan on giving him a new deal...... sorry what, you gave him 3 years ?!?! Is it too late to quit ??"
 
Viva la Mattner said:
It’s obvious he’s checked out and they’ll refuse to trade with Hawthorn

Roughy needs to pick up the phone and see how keen Merrett is on a move to Adelaide
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I wouldn’t be against it. Just feel like Essendon would want heaven and earth for him
 

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