Game Day Live Draft Discussion

[pantskyle]

Is the Hutchins the player who won the WAFL Brownlow?

 

[Carbine Chaos]

Too late to opt out upgrading Dick and take Dayle?

 

[LordHaart]

Could we take Garlett at 79 and still upgrade Dick?

 

[TOA.]

Looking for positives ... at least we know that Hutchings is at least nearly good enough and he will bust his balls to get that bit better. Really improved his pace since he was drafted as well. Perhaps his selection is a product of losing guys like Swift, Stevens, Ebert in that age range. I still think he would have been a better rookie though, mainly because he will only be required as a backup.

 

[PRANKSTER666]

Could we take Garlett at 79 and still upgrade Dick?

If we delist Dazzle perhaps.

 

[wirra44]

surley we could of got Hutchings in the rookie

 

[tesseract]

Mark Hutchings at #60 is why I laugh at the sheep who say 'In WC / WC recruiters we trust'. Hutchings in the ND is the pick of nuffies.

 

[Carbine Chaos]

surley we could of got Hutchings in the rookie

Don't know why you'd waste a rookie pick on him.

 

[strengthwithin]

If we delist Dazzle perhaps.

Or Newmna?

 

[Jack_the_Ninja]

If we delist Dazzle perhaps.

Done, Dazzle is clogging badly.

 

[new breed]

Could we take Garlett at 79 and still upgrade Dick?

NO

 

[Forward Press]

So...

Still no KPD's. ****.

Isn't Colledge 192cms?

Also what kind of name is Brant???

 

[Carbine Chaos]

surley we could of got Hutchings in the rookie

Don't know why you'd waste a rookie pick on him.

 

[Jack_the_Ninja]

If we delist Dazzle perhaps.

Done, Dazzle is clogging badly.

 

[Shupe]

Really improved his pace since he was drafted as well.

Wow. Impressive. He doesn't **** around.

 

[groga]

Brant Colledge and Carter are good gets.

 

[eaglespremiers]

Here's what Quiqley says about our picks:

40. Fremantle

Every chance that Freo takes a couple of KPF prospects this draft and Colledge is one I don’t mind.

Brant Colledge
DOB: 25/10/94 Ht: 192 Wt: 89

Early in the year Colledge had a very bad ankle injury which kept him under the radar a bit. He managed to get back for the end of the Champs and then went on to finish the year very strongly. The strong finish to the year should help him as he showed that he had learnt from the Champs experience and was able put what he had learnt into practice and take his game to the next level. I think his finished to the year would have garnered more attention from teams than many on Big Footy expect. If for any reason he didn't get picked up he is eligible to play next year as an overage player. I am confident though that someone will pick him though.

Colledge has been playing as a high CHF at Colts level but was closer to goal when I saw him at the Champs. At the Champs I was impressed with his hard leading style. I thought he had a few rough edges but he was a forward who charged out and gave his mids a legitimate option to kick it to and if he didn't get it the first time he would lead again. At under 18s you don't see a lot of kids doing multiple hard leads and I am sure people other than myself noticed. His marking is a feature of his game and is what will set him apart from a lot of those being considered in the range where he will go. On his leads he times his arrival at the ball very well and protects the drop zone really nicely. He is a reasonable size but not the biggest KP going around and I like that he doesn't try to extend straight up to mark. Instead he extends out in front of his eyes making it hard for the trailing defender to spoil the ball. His hands are very good and if he gets them on the ball chances are he will stick the mark.

He is not a particularly long kick for goal and struggles from 50. He is a reasonably accurate shot for goal within his range but not elite. He is not a big goal scorer and only managed 10 goals from his 8 Colts games. What he does look to do a lot (probably too much to be honest) is look for teammates inside 50 and he will pass off if given the chance. I am not sure whether he lacks confidence in his kicking or whether he is just being overly unselfish but I am sure his coach at AFL will want him to go back and put it through a bit more than he does atm. It has to be said that there is a lot of unselfishness in his game and he tries very hard to do the little team things like laying blocks for his teammates and shepherding. That is good to see and not all that common amongst junior KPFs.

Athletically he looks pretty strong and seems to be able to generate separation with his pace and work rate. I would expect his endurance to be up there with the best of the key positions and realistically it is probably going to need to be to play the way he does at the next level. At Colts level he often plays a Reiwoldt kind of role where he runs hard and marks a lot. At Colts level he had one game where he picked up 31 disposals and 14 marks and another where he managed 27 disposals and 13 marks so if you give him the right role he can really rack them up. I could see him being a key position as he fills out but interestingly his coach sees him more as a third tall or strong-bodied midfielder. I have to say I don’t see him as a mid but a third tall is not out of the question. If he does have potential to be a Josh Kennedy / Jobe Watson style mid though the interest goes up another level.

37. Fremantle

Freo could do worse than take a the smart WA capt who is a training track warrior. I think Carter will be a value pick this year and Freo could get a bargain here.

Adam Carter
DOB: 17/4/94 Ht: 180 Wt: 72

Carter was the WA captain and it is interesting that he played a pretty similar role to Vlastuin at the Champs and played it just as well but he is likely to go significantly lower than Vlastuin. He is studying law in WA and is a smart kid who seems to be just as good a leader as Vlastuin. In the huddles he is the bloke who does the talking and leads the way on the training track with a great work ethic. In addition to his AFL he has until recently been an elite cricket prospect who toured India with the Australian schoolboys team. Now that he is focused full-time on his football it is fair to assume he will develop more.

This year he played mostly on the half back flank but he also showed some pretty decent ability to play through the midfield. At the back he provides good run forward and not only that he is a very capable one on one defender. He is strong, quick and agile and will make life difficult for anyone he is matched up on. His speed is good but not elite but he is smart enough to compensate when playing on the elite speed guys. He can put the body on and force the forward toward the pockets or out of range. He is also solid overhead and capable of holding his own in the marking contest against players he is likely to match up on.

When he was moved into the midfield he was effective winning clearances and generally giving the WA more punch in the middle of the ground. The WA midfield often lacked ball clearance players and when Carter was in there there was a definite up tick in the performance of that unit. Similarly when someone was getting away down back Carter was often the one sent back to quieten them down and he was successful in that more often than not.

Carter is a long kick who kicks with nice weight whether going long or short. He follows his kicks up nicely and can link up well going forward. He has good hurt factor on his kicks and unlike most in this draft he also has good hurt factor on his handballs. He can bring out good sweeping handballs when the situation warrants it. Under pressure he doesn't panic and will take the time he needs to get the ball to the right option. He displays good vision whether in tight or out in the open and then he can hit the open man that he sees.

In the contest his hands are probably not clean as some but he is still pretty reasonable. He shows good attack on the ball in contested situations and if an opposition gets the ball he is an able tackler. Overall Carter is a solid half back prospect who will potentially develop into a really nice midfielder.

 

[Carbine Chaos]

Brant Colledge and Carter are good gets.

What can you tell us about Colledge? He seems undersized for a key back.

 

[Jack_the_Ninja]

Adam Carter, whats the word on him then ? I haven't been following him.

 

[dk mkcjcejfnjern]

i thought garlett was good?

 

[LordHaart]

So it's official:
45 - Colledge
59 - Carter
60 - Hutchings
79 - Dick

 

[Carbine Chaos]

i thought garlett was good?

Obviously has bigger issues than we realise.

 

[sTeeL]

I reckon its spot on about Hutchings. We wanted a relatively mature backup for a mid seeing as we lost Stevens/Swift/Ebert all in a 2 year period.

 

[fomoco04]

Obviously has bigger issues than we realise.

Yep. Completely overlooked. He was touted as top 10 at one point wasnt he?

 

[Masto]

Hutchings was the same player he was last year. I know he did well in the Sandover but his stats etc were almost identical. Not sure the thinking behind that, unless its just to hold down the fort for year so we can pick up a more talented player next year.