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DarwinRoo said:
No you didn't. Go look at the club below you for a start.
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DarwinRoo said:
You also had a whole bunch of players miss 2 or 3 games for the year. So don't make out you had a horror run either.
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God this is a load of crap.

This is from the home and away.

Marcus Adams - Missed 11 games (out for season)
Tom Boyd - Missed 11 games
Crameri - Season
Luke Dahlhaus - Missed 5 games
Tory Dickson - Missed 4 games
Jason Johannisen - 9 games
Tom Liberatore - Missed 5 games (come off before half time in another two)
Jack Macrae - Missed 4 games
Toby McLean - Missed 10 games
Dale Morris - Missed 3 games (come off before half time in another)
Bob Murphy - Missed 19 games (out for season)
Jack Redpath - Missed 12 games
Clay Smith - Missed 13 games
Jake Stringer - Missed 1 game with injury but was clearly effected on return
Matt Suckling - Missed 7 games
Mitch Wallis - Missed 5 games (put for season)
Easton Wood - Missed 6 games

Bolded are absolute locks in our team. And blokes like McLean, Boyd, Smith have shown they're decent players.

Wanna list North's?

There's a reason the media keep running with that brave crap (which I hate). We've had the most injuries by any team in the eight.
 
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nineteen eighty said:
I heard an interview with one of his ex Ammo players who played in the 3 flags (8 players played in all 3 consecutive flags). This bloke was talking about how Beveridge:

- encouraged back line players all those years ago to play attacking footy, take marks in the backline and not just punch and to not be afraid of turning the ball over by playing all out attack from the backline.
- had the midfield hunt in packs.

Sound familiar in 2016?

Players like Wood set up a lot of play from the backline with his ability to take a grab, their running players from half back are killing it at the moment and sure enough, their midfield is winning the contest and the run and carry players are playing their part.
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Interesting, because Marcus Adams was drafted as a mature aged recruit and this year debuted and played exactly that way - an intercept marker, almost a taller version of Wood.

Adams was probably our best KPD until injured and our defence wobbled for a few weeks without him.
 

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Mofra said:
Interesting, because Marcus Adams was drafted as a mature aged recruit and this year debuted and played exactly that way - an intercept marker, almost a taller version of Wood.

Adams was probably our best KPD until injured and our defence wobbled for a few weeks without him.
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It's fantastic in a way as to what Beveridge is doing. He is implementing the game plan he had in place all those years ago that won him 3 flags in a row...in the heckin' Ammo's of all places.

It's just a beautiful thing...Ammo's game plan executed by higher class of player still holds up at AFL level.
 
pacman said:
Which means unfortunately the award has no merit.
I think Bevo is brilliant but it's not a surprise he's one of 5 of Clarkos previous assistants.
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So was Hardwick. Maybe time to move on from linking all things back to Clarkson. Beveridge was winning flags with his game plan in the Ammos well before Clarko won his first flag in 08. No doubt he learnt from Clarkson though.
 
TedDougChris said:
That clearly is an aberration....
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Once is an aberration, after that it's much bigger

2007, he takes a team that was languishing to a semi final, narrowly missing too 4

2008, premiers, from 5th to 2nd in home and away

2011, after whimpering in 2009 and 2010, takes the team to a top 4 finish

2012, minor premiers

2013, minor premiers and premiers

2014, 2nd, premiers

2015, 3rd, premiers

Given that the coaches of the year have had almost identical performances in different years, they're either moving the goal posts, or looking for any reason for Clarkson not to win

Either way, it's resulted in the award forever being tainted
 
Pogba said:
God this is a load of crap.

This is from the home and away.

Marcus Adams - Missed 11 games (out for season)
Tom Boyd - Missed 11 games
Crameri - Season
Luke Dahlhaus - Missed 5 games
Tory Dickson - Missed 4 games
Jason Johannisen - 9 games
Tom Liberatore - Missed 5 games (come off before half time in another two)
Jack Macrae - Missed 4 games
Toby McLean - Missed 10 games
Dale Morris - Missed 3 games (come off before half time in another)
Bob Murphy - Missed 19 games (out for season)
Jack Redpath - Missed 12 games
Clay Smith - Missed 13 games
Jake Stringer - Missed 1 game with injury but was clearly effected on return
Matt Suckling - Missed 7 games
Mitch Wallis - Missed 5 games (put for season)
Easton Wood - Missed 6 games

Bolded are absolute locks in our team. And blokes like McLean, Boyd, Smith have shown they're decent players.

Wanna list North's?

There's a reason the media keep running with that brave crap (which I hate). We've had the most injuries by any team in the eight.
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Yes and I checked out the stats from Neighbours as well as Home and Away and we still had the same amount of injuries much more then those funny fellows over at North.
I think that some (not all) North supporters just cant accept we are better than them and it sinst because of umpires, throwing the ball etc
 
pacman said:
Which means unfortunately the award has no merit.
I think Bevo is brilliant but it's not a surprise he's one of 5 of Clarkos previous assistants.
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Lets not exaggerate the Clarko stuff. Dont get me wrong I thing Clarko is a genius and clearly the best coach of the last 10 years but Luke has had success everywhere he has gone even before he met Clarko. Amateurs C to B to A in three years is unheard of and then he was at the Pies during there Premiership year and look what happened after he left. In fact the Hawks started on their most recent run of success when he began as back line coach so we may never know who turned Gibson into a champion and it may well have been both Clarko and Luke all I know is that he has turned journeymen like Biggs and Hamling into great players in a very short time.
 
carloss said:
I wonder if Brendan McCartney will get any credit for the dogs success? #notroll
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Why should he? Half the players were leaving under his dogmatic approach and the other half were playing for Footscray in the VFL. Look what Luke has done with Picken, MBoyd, Hamling, Biggs etc. Its time we give Bevo the credit he deserves and its not all because of McCartney (as Paul Roos kept trying to claim every time we beat Melbourne) or Clarko
 
pacman said:
Which means unfortunately the award has no merit.
I think Bevo is brilliant but it's not a surprise he's one of 5 of Clarkos previous assistants.
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Mitchell Madness said:
Once is an aberration, after that it's much bigger

2007, he takes a team that was languishing to a semi final, narrowly missing too 4

2008, premiers, from 5th to 2nd in home and away

2011, after whimpering in 2009 and 2010, takes the team to a top 4 finish

2012, minor premiers

2013, minor premiers and premiers

2014, 2nd, premiers

2015, 3rd, premiers

Given that the coaches of the year have had almost identical performances in different years, they're either moving the goal posts, or looking for any reason for Clarkson not to win

Either way, it's resulted in the award forever being tainted
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I disagree that it's tainted - but I agree that he shouldn't have missed out to date. But it also highlights the continual shifting of the goal posts with the AFL as you say. The circumstances in 2007 are very similar to what Bevo accomplished last year - for which he won the award. So why didn't Clarkson win in 07 ?? Perhaps because of the Cat's dominance in the latter part of the year.

But why not in '08 - that's a really weird one. Perhaps because the award was voted on at a different time (after home and away), not during finals. But then, if it was voted as per this year (which was after the weekends results I believe) - you weren't favourites entering into the 08 GF either ? So he may have missed out then too.

There have been enough opportunities for him to have won at least once, if not more times as he is one of the premier coaches of all time, let alone modern times. I don't think he is too worried about it.
 

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When you see coaches like Beveridge Richardson Pyke Simpson you really need to question clubs like Collingwood and Brisbane
 
Pogba said:
God this is a load of crap.

This is from the home and away.

Marcus Adams - Missed 11 games (out for season)
Tom Boyd - Missed 11 games
Crameri - Season
Luke Dahlhaus - Missed 5 games
Tory Dickson - Missed 4 games
Jason Johannisen - 9 games
Tom Liberatore - Missed 5 games (come off before half time in another two)
Jack Macrae - Missed 4 games
Toby McLean - Missed 10 games
Dale Morris - Missed 3 games (come off before half time in another)
Bob Murphy - Missed 19 games (out for season)
Jack Redpath - Missed 12 games
Clay Smith - Missed 13 games
Jake Stringer - Missed 1 game with injury but was clearly effected on return
Matt Suckling - Missed 7 games
Mitch Wallis - Missed 5 games (put for season)
Easton Wood - Missed 6 games

Bolded are absolute locks in our team. And blokes like McLean, Boyd, Smith have shown they're decent players.

Wanna list North's?

There's a reason the media keep running with that brave crap (which I hate). We've had the most injuries by any team in the eight.
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DarwinRoo?
 
The coach of the year is the premiership coach, Beveridge has done a great job, but if the "angry ant" has never won the award and Beveridge now has two, something is drastically wrong with it? Are the coaches saying that anyone here on "Big Footy" could've coached the Hawks to three in a row? IMO the AFL coaches association are missing the point!
If the Dogs lose this week i reckon i know what Luke Beveridge will think of this award!!
 
JackFlash said:
The coach of the year is the premiership coach, Beveridge has done a great job, but if the "angry ant" has never won the award and Beveridge now has two, something is drastically wrong with it? Are the coaches saying that anyone here on "Big Footy" could've coached the Hawks to three in a row? IMO the AFL coaches association are missing the point!
If the Dogs lose this week i reckon i know what Luke Beveridge will think of this award!!
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The Coaches Association has a medal for the Coach of the Premiers. Coach of the Year is a different award with different criteria.
 

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JackFlash said:
And the "angry ant' never met that criteria? Don't you find that puzzling?
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Well clearly his peers have felt each year that someone other than Clarkson achieved more with the players they had available to them. Either that, or a fair few of them don't like Clarkson, which is possible I guess. What explanation do you have?
 
Mitchell Madness said:
Once is an aberration, after that it's much bigger

2007, he takes a team that was languishing to a semi final, narrowly missing too 4

2008, premiers, from 5th to 2nd in home and away

2011, after whimpering in 2009 and 2010, takes the team to a top 4 finish

2012, minor premiers

2013, minor premiers and premiers

2014, 2nd, premiers

2015, 3rd, premiers

Given that the coaches of the year have had almost identical performances in different years, they're either moving the goal posts, or looking for any reason for Clarkson not to win

Either way, it's resulted in the award forever being tainted
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I think that one of the issues with the award has been the timing of the award being before the grand final. Look at 2008 particularly, there was the expectation that you wouldnt win it.
 
JackFlash said:
And the "angry ant' never met that criteria? Don't you find that puzzling?
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I do, but then I remember it's the AFL and being conflicted and confused and shifting the goalposts is what they do....
 
Mutt said:
Well clearly his peers have felt each year that someone other than Clarkson achieved more with the players they had available to them. Either that, or a fair few of them don't like Clarkson, which is possible I guess. What explanation do you have?
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None whatsoever.
I've been tipping the Bulldogs rise for the past three years, it certainly comes as no surprise to me. The list at the Dogs is pretty good and has depth, proven by this season's misfortunes, i think some of the coaches are judging on days gone past. The Western Bulldogs can no longer be under-estimated, the list is as good as any other team in the comp. Beveridge has a lot at his disposal to work with and it will only get better. IMO the Dogs should win a minimum of two flags maybe three if they can keep the list together in coming years. If they win this Saturday he is definitely coach of the year!
 
JackFlash said:
None whatsoever.
I've been tipping the Bulldogs rise for the past three years, it certainly comes as no surprise to me. The list at the Dogs is pretty good and has depth, proven by this season's misfortunes, i think some of the coaches are judging on days gone past. The Western Bulldogs can no longer be under-estimated, the list is as good as any other team in the comp. Beveridge has a lot at his disposal to work with and it will only get better. IMO the Dogs should win a minimum of two flags maybe three if they can keep the list together in coming years. If they win this Saturday he is definitely coach of the year!
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Two or three flags minimum! Excellent. I reckon Beveridge would say "... we'll just take it one flag at a time."
 

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