MRP / Trib. Lynch To Tribunal

[rfctigerarmy]

More a case of I'm not just blinded by the team I support being on the receiving end of a report and seem to have a bit more awareness of how the MRO adjudicates things like this now especially since the AFL got slugged with a class action around head/brain related injuries

I think the majority of us understand the class action / hit in the head saga, etc, etc. And, that the AFL are trying to stamp out any hits to the head.

What you aren't understanding is just how much of a football action this is, in that it isn't intentional, is a reflex action, and happens in a game so often.

You should be asking yourself why the McCartin tackler isn't at the MRO for the same reason as Lynch.

I'll wait to hear your findings.

 

[RockJobster0312]

I think the majority of us understand the class action / hit in the head saga, etc, etc. And, that the AFL are trying to stamp out any hits to the head.

What you aren't understanding is just how much of a football action this is, in that it isn't intentional, is a reflex action, and happens in a game so often.

You should be asking yourself why the McCartin tackler isn't at the MRO for the same reason as Lynch.

I'll wait to hear your findings.

The question I would like answered is what is the reasonable alternative action that Lynch could have taken?

 

[rfctigerarmy]

The question I would like answered is what is the reasonable alternative action that Lynch could have taken?

 

[_RT_]

You're missing the point, and also showing footage when Lynch is milliseconds from going into the air, when Lynch decides to brace for impact by rotating. IN THE LEAD UP, Keath is coming from the front (yes or no?). You state that he 'isn't going to get to the fall of the ball' – the fall of the ball is ******* metres away from the contest.

What on Earth are you on??

You're allowed to go back with the flight of the ball if you believe you can impact the contest, whether you're going to run into another player or not is only relevant if you don't have eyes for the ball, which Keath does as he starts to go back, he only takes his eyes off it once he knows he won't get there and he tries to stop, Lynch keeps going and even though he has ran under the flight elects to jump & bump Keath, and that is why he has been cited. It's not that hard to understand except it seems that because it's a Richmond playere that has been cited he can't be guilty of doing the wrong thing.

 

[TiggerMan22]

Hope they give him 6 weeks so that they will need to do the same for every other similar incident that ever occurs

Unfortunately this would rely on the MRP having an consistency or shame. They will gladly make an example here and then give less weeks for the same incident the very next week.

 

[domin8]

You're allowed to go back with the flight of the ball if you believe you can impact the contest, whether you're going to run into another player or not is only relevant if you don't have eyes for the ball, which Keath does as he starts to go back, he only takes his eyes off it once he knows he won't get there and he tries to stop, Lynch keeps going and even though he has ran under the flight elects to jump & bump Keath, and that is why he has been cited. It's not that hard to understand except it seems that because it's a Richmond playere that has been cited he can't be guilty of doing the wrong thing.

What were his alternatives? Arms up to mark leaving himself wide open to be split down the middle. The was 100% a protective reflex

 

[tugga]

Stewart got 6 weeks for his hit on Prestia.

He got 4 didn’t he?

 

[_RT_]

I think the majority of us understand the class action / hit in the head saga, etc, etc. And, that the AFL are trying to stamp out any hits to the head.

What you aren't understanding is just how much of a football action this is, in that it isn't intentional, is a reflex action, and happens in a game so often.

You should be asking yourself why the McCartin tackler isn't at the MRO for the same reason as Lynch.

I'll wait to hear your findings.

I understand it's a football action, but when you choose to leave the ground, bump and opponent and collect them high, which sees them end up with concussion, you're always going to be in trouble, just like Pickett & McAdam were in round 1.

As for the Patrick McCartin incident, from what I've seen the actual concussion comes from him hitting his own head on the ground, rather than anything untoward by the tackler as it's when McCartin is trying to climb over them to get to the ball that he hits the ground.

 

[tugga]

Well there you go, Stewart made no attempt at the ball, purely lined meatball up.

Everyone knows Stewart got off lightly.
should have been 6 minimum.

 

[_RT_]

What were his alternatives? Arms up to mark leaving himself wide open to be split down the middle. The was 100% a protective reflex

He'd gone past the contest, he didn't have to jump and make contact with Keath like he did. He still could have braced and bumped Keath and nothing probably happens, but it's the fact that he leaves the ground when bumping Keath high that seals his fate

 

[domin8]

He'd gone past the contest, he didn't have to jump and make contact with Keath like he did. He still could have braced and bumped Keath and nothing probably happens, but it's the fact that he leaves the ground when bumping Keath high that seals his fate

Wow ok. Lynch stays down he opens himself up to being hurt. He was committed to the contest then elected to protect himself.

 

[_RT_]

Wow ok

Look at where Jones is who makes contact with the ball and where Lynch is while making contact with Keath.

Lynch has taken his eyes off the ball, is off the ground and collects Keath high,

 

[JAKLAUGHING]

You have got the right to brace yourself for contact nothing in it what a soft game it has become

But...but...but...the duty of care to not KO the oppo...

 

[domin8]

Look at where Jones is who makes contact with the ball and where Lynch is while making contact with Keath.

Lynch has taken his eyes off the ball, is off the ground and collects Keath high,

Play the entire contest and not just a freeze frame. There was exactly zero retaliation or retribution at the time of the incident. After the game when it mentioned he’d be in trouble most people said what for.

 

[biaseddustyfan]

 

[Juke]

Look at where Jones is who makes contact with the ball and where Lynch is while making contact with Keath.

Lynch has taken his eyes off the ball, is off the ground and collects Keath high,

Have you ever played this sport?

It is absolutely impossible to avoid things like this in marking contests. Lynch is fundamentally in a football action right up until the moment he realises Keath is coming in from in front, where he braces after being off balance.

May as well remove spoils, specky attempts and institute drop zones like in AFL 9s if this is worth a suspension. And Stewart should have been deregistered after his hit.

 

[BruceTempany14]

Wasn't front on contact though, but side to side.

Yes I have, the problem is that Lynch elected to bump once he was no longer in the contest.

He still elected to bump and as a result of that bump concussed Keath, which will always result in a MRO issued suspension or a tribunal visit.

We all demanded that Dangerfield be rubbed out for his collision with Vlastuin in 2020, which granted wasn't in a marking contest, because he elected to bump instead of contest the ball, yet we now want Lynch let off.

IMO it can't be both, you can't want one player rubbed out and then the other let off just because they wear the jumper of the team you support.

You’re going well here …


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[JAKLAUGHING]

Four weeks

Manifestly inadequate...

 

[BruceTempany14]

He got 4 didn’t he?

Got the “good bloke” discount . Also he felt terribly , was devastated and was remorseful as ge thought he let the team down …. No mention of Prestia of course …..

Fk I hate Geelong. Have more respect for the bloke who had the affair with my ex wife .


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[JAKLAUGHING]

I think the majority of us understand the class action / hit in the head saga, etc, etc. And, that the AFL are trying to stamp out any hits to the head.

What you aren't understanding is just how much of a football action this is, in that it isn't intentional, is a reflex action, and happens in a game so often.

You should be asking yourself why the McCartin tackler isn't at the MRO for the same reason as Lynch.

I'll wait to hear your findings.

I'd be showing the MRO footage from the McCartin KO...where was the duty of care!?

 

[Sir_Rancelot]

Got the “good bloke” discount . Also he felt terribly , was devastated and was remorseful as ge thought he let the team down …. No mention of Prestia of course …..

Fk I hate Geelong. Have more respect for the bloke who had the affair with my ex wife .


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Remember the whole media circus lead by Wankley "Stewart is a good bloke yada yada yada" It had to have some bearing on the outcome 100%.
People believe any bullshit they are fed especially if it's drilled into them via the media over and over again. So in saying that "Do I think Stewart is a top bloke? YES of course he is" because I was told he was so it must be true.

 

[Noidnadroj]

You're allowed to brace for contact, however IMO the MRO believes that Lynch chose to bump instead of contesting the mark. Had he done that and made contact with Keath it would be classed as no other way to contest the ball and bad luck for Keath.

As for being graded as severe, the MRO seem to label every concussion incident as severe as a means to establish some consistency in results.

As for the comparison with Cameron/Andrews, like Lynch Cameron never actually contested the mark and instead opted to take out the opponent, the fact he did it with an raised elbow is why he copped 6 weeks (IIRC). Lynch will probably cop 4 like Broad did and I have no issue with that, even if Lynch wasn't injured with the foot.

The AFL is going to continue trying to eliminate unneccary head contact where it can, unfortunately there will be incidents like what happened with Tom McCartin last night that are a result of contesting the ball, but when players are not choosing to contest the footy and simply bump an opponent players are going to run the risk

You’re missing one vital bit of the incident. The ball was sailing over Lynch’s head so he didn’t have a realistic play on marking the ball - did you want him to put his hands up and have the ball travel over them by a foot? Then end up getting cleaned up the middle from oncoming traffic just for sh*ts and giggles?

It was a football incident. Eyes on the ball. No attempt to mark as was out of position. Last second sees Keath coming front on. Braces for impact whilst never once looking at Keath. Accident occurs.

They will make a rod for their own backs if they suspend Lynch, and I can’t wait until an oppo player does the same thing in week one of the finals and misses a granny …. let’s hope it’s Buddy, Curnow or Darcy Moore.


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[Noidnadroj]

Correct.

As much as people don't like it, it's the way the game is going. Getting hit when both players are contesting the footy is part and parcel of the game and it's unfortunate if you get hurt. However when one player elects to not contest the footy and given an opponent concussion they will be liable for it and be sanctioned.

Please explain : if Lynch realised he was not able to make a play on the ball as it was going over his head, what was his option in that contest? Don’t say ‘go for the ball’, as he didn’t have a play on the ball, and he’s not a muppet who would pretend to mark a ball going over his head. So in the event he didn’t have a play on the ball, tell me EXACTLY what he should have done in that contest?

If you don’t have a reasonable answer then he will get off. If they decide to make an example of him
It doesn’t matter what they say, they’ll just say whatever they like and he’ll get weeks.

I want the club to appeal it if he gets weeks, and then take it further with a press conference and a media blitz by Gale if the appeal fails. It’s time to stand up and be counted and show we are a club who stands behind our players even when all appears lost…. it’ll galvanise the group as a ‘line in the sand’ moment for the future.

It’ll be even more powerful as he’s obviously out anyway … but his integrity is at stake here.


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[Noidnadroj]

Not actually trolling. I've got no issue with Lynch being rubbed out as by the letter of the law it's a suspendable incident.

It’s only suspendable if he had a realistic alternative. If he had no play on the ball what were his options?


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[Tigeral]

* the AFL it's turned to absolute rubbish. How the * did this get sent to the tribunal? I can't stand this sport anymore.

Me too, I love the tiges, just wish there was another league we could go and play for. Theres know way of giving the afl feedback either. Who’s got the tipper truck, it’s time for another load of manure