Recommitted Marcus Windhager - re-signed for 4 more years

[THE_GUN]

Gut feel is you just pay what he is asking with Windhager. His contract demands are very reasonable when compared to others

Or there is a middle road where they can meet
You wouldnt think he would want to leave but deservedly needs a decent increase

 

[Darrian Barnett]

We should have locked him in on a 3 year deal early in the year. Same time that we re-signed Owens and Higgins

 

[Giant Strides]

He’ll sign on now Nasiah has committed.

Well, that's the relevant question, isn't it? Does he recommit because he's mates with Nas and wants to continue playing with him (which is entirely reasonable), or does he continue to look elsewhere for (a) the chance to play a pure midfield role & (b) more $$ than Saints are willing to pay him?

We will see in the fullness of time. The former outcome would not surprise me in the least.

 

[Danog]

We'll trade you a lovely Blight and Sonsie for your filthy Windhager

 

[aussierulesrules]

Wind is miles better those other 2 you quote
Billings and Gresham had real question marks on them similar stage career

Not at those respective times of their careers.

Windy is 22yo this year.

Gresham at 20yo kicked 30 goals, and in the final round that year he kicked 5 on the MCG, against the Richmond team who a month later won the flag, then 6 months later- at still just 20yo- he kicked another 6 against them there, on his way to a 35 goal season, despite playing much more midfield time in the later rounds.

In the second half of that season, after that 6 goal game v Richmond, at just 20/21yo, he had games of

26 disposals 1 goal
25 & 2
24, 2 goals, 7 clearances
23 & 2
19 & 4

He was a gun who kicked 35 and would have kicked 40 goals + at 21yo, had he not played so much midfield later in the year, who then transitioned into full midfield the following year.

He was wayyyy ahead of Windy in their respective early years.

4th in the B&F at 21yo
6th in the B&F at 22yo

3 years of career-derailing significant injuries have left him a shadow of his former self.

While Billings at the age Windy is this year had 500+ disposals and kicked 23 goals, came 5th in the B&F, and received 11 Brownlow votes.

Including games of:

30 disposals and 5 goals, 3 Br votes
30 and 1, 3 votes
30 and 1, 1 vote
28 and 2
28 and 1, 3 votes
27 and 1
25 and 2
25 and 1
25 and 1
23 and 1
22 and 2, 1 vote

So we’ve been burned offering guys at this age big fat contracts in recent years, even though they’d both had top 5 B&F finishes by the age of 22, and were “goalkicking mids”, who could also play forward and kick a bag.

I hope we get this done, but I’m not going to pretend it’s not a gamble, or that it’s a certain bet.

 

[theflyingviking]

Saints can expand signature before too long

 

[Maximus 2011]

Well, that's the relevant question, isn't it? Does he recommit because he's mates with Nas and wants to continue playing with him (which is entirely reasonable), or does he continue to look elsewhere for (a) the chance to play a pure midfield role & (b) more $$ than Saints are willing to pay him?

We will see in the fullness of time. The former outcome would not surprise me in the least.

and C. A chance of actually playing finals

 

[Veer Right]

and C. A chance of actually playing finals

Playing in front of 5 supporters who are not paid must be a thrilling experience! The other 5 are paid fwiw.

 

[Bostonian]

Should ask for 1 million a season. He's better than half the player NWM is so should get paid at least half of what he gets.

 

[Makeshift Park]

Gerard Healy and Sam Edmund intimated that North have offered him 800k.

 

[PaythePerryman]

Gerard Healy and Sam Edmund intimated that North have offered him 800k.

Well that's the Giants out of contention then

 

[projectv]

Gerard Healy and Sam Edmund intimated that North have offered him 800k.

I'd be shocked if he left if that was the offer.

I expect we'll pay him similar and he'll stay. Still a lot to play out for us though.

 

[PaythePerryman]

I'd be shocked if he left if that was the offer.

I expect we'll pay him similar and he'll stay. Still a lot to play out for us though.

Strange that North would be going after ANOTHER midfielder tbh.

I think 800k is pretty big overs for him currently. If that's what the offer is....I'd be thinking again about matching if I was StKilda.
But I guess you're splashing cash so may as well

 

[eth-dog]

Not sure what sort of money we'd need to price the Saints out. 3.5 over 4 maybe?

 

[projectv]

Strange that North would be going after ANOTHER midfielder tbh.

I think 800k is pretty big overs for him currently. If that's what the offer is....I'd be thinking again about matching if I was StKilda.
But I guess you're splashing cash so may as well

Yeah it will depend a lot on what may or may not happen for us re: TDK, Marshall, Steele, etc

We may not have the money to match.

 

[Veer Right]

Yeah it will depend a lot on what may or may not happen for us re: TDK, Marshall, Steele, etc

We may not have the money to match.

We are in the race for Reid are we not? So plenty spare but how much of that do we want to allocate to Windhager which in turn lowers next years war chest is the question.

 

[PaythePerryman]

We are in the race for Reid are we not? So plenty spare but how much of that do we want to allocate to Windhager which in turn lowers next years war chest is the question.

Oh I didn't think the Reid thing was real. Wild

 

[Atomboy]

Oh I didn't think the Reid thing was real. Wild

Sounds like we’ve been paying the bare minimum for a number of years now and it’s time to use or lose the excess cap.

Makes a change from us using the full cap on a bunch of muppets like we did the last 15 years.

 

[tiger_tough]

Mitch Cleary said today there is no interest from GWS in Windhager currently.

 

[perplexed]

Strange that North would be going after ANOTHER midfielder tbh.

I think 800k is pretty big overs for him currently. If that's what the offer is....I'd be thinking again about matching if I was StKilda.
But I guess you're splashing cash so may as well

We get smashed in transition every week. We have plenty of attacking mids but need a hard two-way running type for balance.

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

We get smashed in transition every week. We have plenty of attacking mids but need a hard two-way running type for balance.

Luke Parker will also need to move out and more into a forward role soon. Think Windhager creates that situation

 

[projectv]

We get smashed in transition every week. We have plenty of attacking mids but need a hard two-way running type for balance.

Couldn't North just transition a few of their dozen midfielders into that role? Why bring more in?

 

[GoEaglesGoSGIO]

Couldn't North just transition a few of their dozen midfielders into that role? Why bring more in?

Who? They have running mids, not big bodied mids.

 

[cybercrab]

Couldn't North just transition a few of their dozen midfielders into that role? Why bring more in?

We tried with Powell and it didn't work, Wardlaw provides great pressure but can't sustain it over a full match. LDU has played more defensively minded this year and it's diminished his impact, he excels like on the weekend when he's focused on his offensive game.

 

[Makeshift Park]

Couldn't North just transition a few of their dozen midfielders into that role? Why bring more in?

Parker isn’t far off reaching the end and Phillips will be gone this offseason.

Powell and Simpkin will be outside players going forward.