Mark Jamar?

[Optimax]

With Johnson being the new second Ruck at melbourne and Jamar seems to have fallen out of favour, do you think we should trade for him second rounder, maybe lonie or egan should be enough.

I know we will still have to draft at least one ruck as he wont solve our problems but every time ive seen him play he seems fairly good physical and knows what he is doing in the ruck as well.

Just wanted to know hat you guys thought. If not him is there any other Ruck that would be able to get wia trade at the ned of the season, dont say Charman that isnt going to happen.

 

[dspeed]

With Johnson being the new second Ruck at melbourne and Jamar seems to have fallen out of favour, do you think we should trade for him second rounder, maybe lonie or egan should be enough.

I know we will still have to draft at least one ruck as he wont solve our problems but every time ive seen him play he seems fairly good physical and knows what he is doing in the ruck as well.

Just wanted to know hat you guys thought. If not him is there any other Ruck that would be able to get wia trade at the ned of the season, dont say Charman that isnt going to happen.

i know we have been discussing it over on the MFC board, but for the benefit of the pies supporters, we would definitely not accept a fringe player for jamar, especially an outside player like lonie or egan, second round would be the minimum the club would consider id say as ruckmen have a lot more currency then smalls, we got a first rounder for jolly a few years back when he was in a similar situation to what jamar is now

jamar is a strong bodied 24 year old who we have developed into a solid tap ruckmen, it is only PJs athleticism keeping him out of the side at the moment, would need more then egan, lonie type players

 

[Timmy from Thomastown]

No better than Bryan or Richards.

I'd rather we drafted an 18 year old.

 

[Optimax]

i know we have been discussing it over on the MFC board, but for the benefit of the pies supporters, we would definitely not accept a fringe player for jamar, especially an outside player like lonie or egan, second round would be the minimum the club would consider id say as ruckmen have a lot more currency then smalls, we got a first rounder for jolly a few years back when he was in a similar situation to what jamar is now

jamar is a strong bodied 24 year old who we have developed into a solid tap ruckmen, it is only PJs athleticism keeping him out of the side at the moment, would need more then egan, lonie type players

Cmon mate why did you have to crush our dreams abotu lonie and egan you wont even take Richards cmon now.

 

[ChipDouglas]

No better than Bryan or Richards.

I'd rather we drafted an 18 year old.

Ditto, he's a back up spud and there will be much better prospects available in the second round of this years draft.

 

[dspeed]

No better than Bryan or Richards.

I'd rather we drafted an 18 year old.

he'd be better then richards for sure, perhaps on par with bryan but carlton obviously let him go for a reason, id take jamar over both

 

[ChipDouglas]

i know we have been discussing it over on the MFC board, but for the benefit of the pies supporters, we would definitely not accept a fringe player for jamar, especially an outside player like lonie or egan, second round would be the minimum the club would consider id say as ruckmen have a lot more currency then smalls, we got a first rounder for jolly a few years back when he was in a similar situation to what jamar is now

jamar is a strong bodied 24 year old who we have developed into a solid tap ruckmen, it is only PJs athleticism keeping him out of the side at the moment, would need more then egan, lonie type players

And some people say we over-rate our players. If you went to any other club and asked them to rank Lonie, Egan and Jamar from one to three Jamar would be last every time. He wasn't even drafted for gods sake.

 

[Optimax]

he'd be better then richards for sure, perhaps on par with bryan but carlton obviously let him go for a reason, id take jamar over both

Only given a one year contract by carlton questions over fitness, so he took our two year contract, so far no problem with his fitness or discipline apparntly.

 

[ChipDouglas]

he'd be better then richards for sure, perhaps on par with bryan but carlton obviously let him go for a reason, id take jamar over both

Wrong! Carlton wanted to kep him but were only offering a one year deal, Collingwood offered two years so he placed himself in the pre-season draft. Anything else need clarification?

 

[dspeed]

And some people say we over-rate our players. If you went to any other club and asked them to rank Lonie, Egan and Jamar from one to three Jamar would be last every time. He wasn't even drafted for gods sake.

so? neither were cox and sandilands from memory, my point was that ruckmen have more currency then smalls and we probably wouldnt accept either of those two for jamar, each club usually rates their players higher then other clubs players but that is natural, and why trades are becoming increasingly rare, just giving my opinion on what kind of thing you'd need to give up to get him

 

[bus24]

Realistically you guys aren't going to push for the flag for a while, so I don't see the point of trading for a guy like Jamar. When you could draft a talented kid, that would be prime when guys like Thomas/Pendles ect. have established themselves as top-line players.

This draft is chock-full of talented rucks and I'd wager you'd pick up a better player with a second rounder, rather than trading it away for Jamar.

 

[dspeed]

Wrong! Carlton wanted to kep him but were only offering a one year deal, Collingwood offered two years so he placed himself in the pre-season draft. Anything else need clarification?

fair enough, i thought i had remembered something being said about his work ethic or whatever, but thanks for that clarification, still think id take the big russian however

 

[Optimax]

Realistically you guys aren't going to push for the flag for a while, so I don't see the point of trading for a guy like Jamar. When you could draft a talented kid, that would be prime when guys like Thomas/Pendles ect. have established themselves as top-line players.

This draft is chock-full of talented rucks and I'd wager you'd pick up a better player with a second rounder, rather than trading it away for Jamar.

Still said we should draft one in fact we most definetly will id say, but it thought we coul get an extra as Fraser Richards, and Fraser Bryan arn't the most fearsome tandems, and Jamar would give good back up and provide more compition than what Richards gives bryan and they both give fraser.

 

[Timmy from Thomastown]

Realistically you guys aren't going to push for the flag for a while, .

September at the earliest.

 

[Jabso]

Realistically you guys aren't going to push for the flag for a while, so I don't see the point of trading for a guy like Jamar. When you could draft a talented kid, that would be prime when guys like Thomas/Pendles ect. have established themselves as top-line players.

This draft is chock-full of talented rucks and I'd wager you'd pick up a better player with a second rounder, rather than trading it away for Jamar.

I don't think Jamar is a player you'd want if you were on the cusp of a flag anyway. He would be a Carlton 2001/Kangaroos 2004 esque recycled reject.

 

[bus24]

I don't think Jamar is a player you'd want if you were on the cusp of a flag anyway. He would be a Carlton 2001/Kangaroos 2004 esque recycled reject.

Thats true. But he'd probably have more of an effect than a developing 18-19 year old kid.

 

[Tarkyn_24]

Me in four years = Collingwood's next Josh Fraser mixed with Dean Cox

190cm, 72 kg. Only 14 years of age

 

[doppleganger]

some better options out that may want a bigger role

blokes like Hale at the kangas, we could dangle the carrot of being the clubs number 1 ruck in front of him

perhaps even Griffen from the Crows also

 

[The Royal Sampler]

Realistically you guys aren't going to push for the flag for a while, so I don't see the point of trading for a guy like Jamar. When you could draft a talented kid, that would be prime when guys like Thomas/Pendles ect. have established themselves as top-line players.

This draft is chock-full of talented rucks and I'd wager you'd pick up a better player with a second rounder, rather than trading it away for Jamar.

Listen to the man from Kimi Raikkonenville

 

[The Royal Sampler]

Me in four years = Collingwood's next Josh Fraser mixed with Dean Cox

190cm, 72 kg. Only 14 years of age

Go and hide yourself in the bush then, Collingwood doesn't get top 10 selections too often.

 

[Chrisrocks53]

Go and hide yourself in the bush then, Collingwood doesn't get top 10 selections too often.

I could of been a top ten ruck draft pick, thats if I picked up Football earlier.

Currently 198cm (ive been that for 3 years now), 85kg's and 18 years of age.

I could of been a project player, too bad laziness is prefered.

 

[PieLebo87]

Realistically you guys aren't going to push for the flag for a while, so I don't see the point of trading for a guy like Jamar. When you could draft a talented kid, that would be prime when guys like Thomas/Pendles ect. have established themselves as top-line players.

This draft is chock-full of talented rucks and I'd wager you'd pick up a better player with a second rounder, rather than trading it away for Jamar.

You're an idiot. We're pushing for the flag this year, and next year, and the year after, and so forth.

We only have J Fraser who is a quality ruckman, and he cannot handle 100% game time in the ruck.

1; We need another ruckman to share the load with Fraser
2; We want to win a flag ASAP because we can

 

[Optimax]

Me in four years = Collingwood's next Josh Fraser mixed with Dean Cox

190cm, 72 kg. Only 14 years of age

#### kid give up the video games and internet, play footy non stop dont worry bout school, speak to our recurting dept and get yourself rookie listed (only way we'll get ya no top 10 draft picks). Still you'll probably end up at freo.

In fact you way 10kg less than me and 10cm taller hmm and im 6 years older.

 

[Ramere]

#### kid give up the video games and internet, play footy non stop dont worry bout school, speak to our recurting dept and get yourself rookie listed (only way we'll get ya no top 10 draft picks). Still you'll probably end up at freo.

In fact you way 10kg less than me and 10cm taller hmm and im 6 years older.

Do all that, move to NSW & go for a scholarship

 

[WakeUpPies]

dude even i realized the chances of getting into AFl is like 1 in 1000000, unless you wanna play for richmond

i will be happy knowing im a better kick then Tarrant