Conspiracy Theory Martin Bryant and Port Arthur - Conspiracy or Cheddar?

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darthbards said:
Your facts there are complete and utter rubbish.

He was in solitary confinement as a means of torture. To be kept in solitary for that length of time is illegal,pure and simple,if the law is lacking have it changed. I highly doubt the other prisoners wanted to kill a mentally ******ed man,and even if they did the jail has other ways to protect him. Plenty of pedophiles people want to kill not in solitary.

Anonymous people might not know much about this innocent man but the government sure did their best to paint a false image. Media illegally being allowed to break into his house and then plaster his image all over the country in a open and shut case of contempt,what about that fact.

Despite the mountains of evidence the whole thing was a set up it is still Australian law that if a foreigner dies or there's a death by fire a colonial inquest must be held,our laws just completely overlooked again.

The fact here is not only is an innocent man in jail but laws and the constitution were actually breached to put him there.
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He shot young children in the face - he would have been torn apart if other prisoners got a hold of him. If you slaughter 35 people solitary confinement is a gift.

Pedo's aren’t placed into the main stream prison system - they are separated as well.

The only fact that matters is that his last plea was guilty. You can make up stories of torture, kill rates, CIA set ups, more than 1 shooter that was using laser beams from their eye balls, naked women shooting from their hips all you like - the 1 fact that matters is him pleading guilty!!
 
Wild Bill said:
He shot young children in the face - he would have been torn apart if other prisoners got a hold of him. If you slaughter 35 people solitary confinement is a gift.

Pedo's aren’t placed into the main stream prison system - they are separated as well.

The only fact that matters is that his last plea was guilty. You can make up stories of torture, kill rates, CIA set ups, more than 1 shooter that was using laser beams from their eye balls, naked women shooting from their hips all you like - the 1 fact that matters is him pleading guilty!!
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You might not think much about our country's constitution but if people want to change it we should at least be having a vote and then stick with what we choose .
If people vote contempt is cool,fine. If we want people being tortured so be it,if we want to ignore colonial inquests fine, but let's make these things law and have a government elected on trying to bring these changes in.
 
darthbards said:
You might not think much about our country's constitution but if people want to change it we should at least be having a vote and then stick with what we choose .
If people vote contempt is cool,fine. If we want people being tortured so be it,if we want to ignore colonial inquests fine, but let's make these things law and have a government elected on trying to bring these changes in.
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What section of the constitution are you referring to?

The vibe?
 

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darthbards said:
You might not think much about our country's constitution but if people want to change it we should at least be having a vote and then stick with what we choose .
If people vote contempt is cool,fine. If we want people being tortured so be it,if we want to ignore colonial inquests fine, but let's make these things law and have a government elected on trying to bring these changes in.
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You think 6 months in solitary confinement is torture??? Maybe you should have a chat to Walter Mikac.
 
darthbards said:
You might not think much about our country's constitution but if people want to change it we should at least be having a vote and then stick with what we choose .
If people vote contempt is cool,fine. If we want people being tortured so be it,if we want to ignore colonial inquests fine, but let's make these things law and have a government elected on trying to bring these changes in.
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Torture is what people who saw that pyscopath scumbag killing friends and family witnesses and have to live with every day.
Getting separated from the rest of the prisoners for his own safety isn't torture, could easily argue it's more then he deserved.
 
darthbards said:
Your facts there are complete and utter rubbish.

He was in solitary confinement as a means of torture. To be kept in solitary for that length of time is illegal,pure and simple,if the law is lacking have it changed. I highly doubt the other prisoners wanted to kill a mentally ******ed man,and even if they did the jail has other ways to protect him. Plenty of pedophiles people want to kill not in solitary.

Anonymous people might not know much about this innocent man but the government sure did their best to paint a false image. Media illegally being allowed to break into his house and then plaster his image all over the country in a open and shut case of contempt,what about that fact.

Despite the mountains of evidence the whole thing was a set up it is still Australian law that if a foreigner dies or there's a death by fire a colonial inquest must be held,our laws just completely overlooked again.

The fact here is not only is an innocent man in jail but laws and the constitution were actually breached to put him there.
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I think you need to do more research on what they do to peadophiles and other notorious individuals in prison.

http://dailyheadlines.net/2015/10/e...-to-paedophiles-in-prison-this-is-disturbing/

Bryant was and still is segregated from general population for his own safety.

Or if this really was a conspiracy, they could have let him go into general population and let them kill him to tie up loose ends.
 
nut said:
After watching Making a Murderer ... anything is possible.
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After watching the final episode of breaking bad I now believe a car may have been the shooter that day. The way the car shot from the hip/trunk and had so many kills then we need to look at questioning all cars in the area on that day.

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Heisenberg_ said:
Torture is what people who saw that pyscopath scumbag killing friends and family witnesses and have to live with every day.
Getting separated from the rest of the prisoners for his own safety isn't torture, could easily argue it's more then he deserved.
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Never said he was guilty or innocent,just said not only was his conviction dodgy but I'm not comfortable with using torture or contempt of court as a means of coming to a verdict. If the law says colonial enquiry and the case warrants that on multiple grounds the enquiry needs to take place.
 
darthbards said:
Not really into considering torture as a contest. Seems really strange that someone would.
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Would you suggest he should have been put in general pop where he would have been targeted by every single person in that facility?
 
Heisenberg_ said:
Would you suggest he should have been put in general pop where he would have been targeted by every single person in that facility?
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No,I'm suggesting he shouldn't have been tortured. Even a prisoner of war wouldn't have been allowed to stay in confinement for that length of time.
If multiple guards need to be with Bryant as he goes about his business until his trial,so be it.
 
darthbards said:
Not really into considering torture as a contest. Seems really strange that someone would.
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Its not a contest. Not sure how any normal person could compare someone sitting in a room for 6 months all alone V having your 3 year old little girl chased down and shot in the face.

1 is torture - the other is sitting by yourself for 6 months.
 

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NEGAN said:
He pleaded guilty to get a TV.......In solitary confinement.

Think about it he was facing 35 life sentences what benefit did he have in pleading guilty 1 life sentence off the 35? At the very worst his lawyer should of advised him to roll the dice.

I am not here saying he is guilty or innocent just this is the process was freaking dodgy as hell. It's not protocol, it's not normal process.
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He pleading guilty cos his 'stand over' Lawyer told to do so or his mum n sis would commit sucide otherwise
 
Wild Bill said:
People are making an argument that the world is flat.

This thread has confirmed the reason why we should never bring guns back.
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Present Not Past said:
Let's not get emotional, but let's just rather focus on the facts.
He was in solitary confinement for his own safety. People wanted to get revenge for his murders at Port Arthur. Fact.
He didn't plead guilty for a TV - he pleaded guilty after repeated visits from his family. Fact.
His family knew more about him than any anonymous Conspiracy Theorist. Fact.
His family who know him better than any anonymous conspiracy theorist now say that Martin Bryant murdered 35 people at Port Arthur. Fact.
His family say now that Martin Bryant killed 35 people at Port Arthur because of his fathers suicide. Fact.
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Did you miss his mothers interview on 60 minutes where she said he was innocent? Fact
 
He has Christians writing and wanting to save him, yet the prison guards use a loophole to never turn the mail over, since they're allowed to hold it until release (Not sure where I read that whole thing but this jogged my memory)

Although he is sent a lot of mail — from ghoulish “fans” including teenage girls and media requests from around the world — very little is handed on to him and is instead stored to be handed over on his far away release date.
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http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/ne...e/news-story/751e16b4517c9d4d4226e6ba78d5b079
 
darthbards said:
No,I'm suggesting he shouldn't have been tortured. Even a prisoner of war wouldn't have been allowed to stay in confinement for that length of time.
If multiple guards need to be with Bryant as he goes about his business until his trial,so be it.
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You obviously have no idea what you're talking about. It's not uncommon, either for their own protection or the protection of other prisoners, for a prisoner to spend their entire sentence in isolation. That's not torture, that's simply having a duty of care. Look at Carl Williams, he was only allowed contact with 2 other prisoners, that he nominated as he felt safe with them...
 
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