Matthew Smith

birdmanptr · Jun 21, 2005

Can some regular Sturt watcher tell us where he is at please.

pjcrows · Jun 21, 2005

he is crap. thats where he is at. to think guys like jason porplyzia and aidan parker were dropped from the crows list is a farce when this guy is still on it.

cro_Magnum · Jun 21, 2005

Not an AFL player.

His only asset is his run from the backline, and even that is limited. For a big guy he is poor overhead, and nearly always gets beaten in 1 on 1 contests.

What were they thinking?

birdmanptr · Jun 21, 2005

pjcrows said:
he is crap. thats where he is at. to think guys like jason porplyzia and aidan parker were dropped from the crows list is a farce when this guy is still on it.

I thought parker was ok

Crow-mosone · Jun 21, 2005

He seems to be doing ok at SANFL level, hasn't gotten, and is unlikely to get an AFL chance.

Shame, after that many years I'd have liked to have a look at him.

macca23 · Jun 21, 2005

Crow-mosone said:
He seems to be doing ok at SANFL level, hasn't gotten, and is unlikely to get an AFL chance.

Shame, after that many years I'd have liked to have a look at him.

I'll get the club to send you a pic of him then Crow-mo.

Anything to keep him out of a Crows jumper.

NikkiNoo · Jun 21, 2005

they managed to get him in one macca

macca23 · Jun 21, 2005

NikkiNoo said:
they managed to get him in one macca

Hmmmmmm.

Looks more like the green and gold of Wingfield Royals to me, Nikki.

CaptainDangerfield · Jun 21, 2005

cro_Magnum said:
Not an AFL player.

His only asset is his run from the backline, and even that is limited. For a big guy he is poor overhead, and nearly always gets beaten in 1 on 1 contests.

What were they thinking?

He needs to get better at that...and that...and that.

Nige_Bix · Jun 22, 2005

I wonder if he thinks he will get a game - or a contract!

lozstar · Jun 22, 2005

he's been doing good..... for sturt.
and sadly, thats as far as him being good will go.

rooboy · Jun 22, 2005

I haven't seen Smith, but let's not forget most of the posters on here were saying exactly the same thing about Bock about 4 weeks ago. The club must see something in the guy.
He's still pretty young isn't he?

noddy · Jun 22, 2005

rooboy said:
I haven't seen Smith, but let's not forget most of the posters on here were saying exactly the same thing about Bock about 4 weeks ago. The club must see something in the guy.
He's still pretty young isn't he?

Spot on & i was one of those who ended up with egg on my face.

Saw Smith play for the first time last week (tv) & thought he played a pretty good game.

Mind that was only SANFL & not the AFL.

GoSarge · Jun 22, 2005

cro_Magnum said:
... and nearly always gets beaten in 1 on 1 contests.

Do you think you watch enough Sturt games to make such a comment ? I think at SANFL level he is quite strong in 1 on 1 contests. Do you think he got beaten by Fergus Watts on the weekend ? Don't think so.

pjcrows said:
he is crap. thats where he is at. to think guys like jason porplyzia and aidan parker were dropped from the crows list is a farce when this guy is still on it.

He isn't crap at all. That's not where he is at. I've actually got some time for him, I think he is a good solid SANFL player, but lacks some tricks to make it at AFL player.

Remember it isn't HIS fault that he got elevated ahead of players such as Porplyzia or Parker.

Jimmy · Jun 22, 2005

he is great for sturt, you can drop him to us full time

DaveW · Jun 22, 2005

Jimmy said:
he is great for sturt, you can drop him to us full time

I'd have thought the current situation works well for Sturt - the Crows pay for his salary, ensure his fitness is to the standard of an AFL player, but never pick him!

He might be compelled to return to Victoria should we delist him.

cro_Magnum · Jun 22, 2005

GoSarge said:
Do you think you watch enough Sturt games to make such a comment ? I think at SANFL level he is quite strong in 1 on 1 contests. Do you think he got beaten by Fergus Watts on the weekend ? Don't think so.

I've followed Sturt for many years and have been watching him on TV and live since he transferred from the Port Magpies where he wasn't getting enough opportunities. He showed some early promise but never kicked on.

He was taken in the 2000 draft as our 3rd pick behind Angwin and Handby (!) although we did get Skippy and Stiffy late. So he has been on the list or rookied for 5 years and still hasn't had a game - must be a record. He probably would have had a game late last year but pulled a hamstring and was never tested, and Parker ended up being delisted instead.

The best I could say is he's "solid" at SANFL level but I don't think Sturt would slash their wrists if he went home. He's occasionally in the best players but never dominates or is BOG (even Skipworth was named BOG for the Crows in 1 match this year), and I doubt he would be in the State side if eligible, so I can't see what he would offer at AFL level.

Blues_Girl · Jun 22, 2005

Jimmy said:
he is great for sturt, you can drop him to us full time

Can't see any complaints coming from any fellow Sturt supporters

Blues_Girl · Jun 22, 2005

DaveW said:
He might be compelled to return to Victoria should we delist him.

NO!

He will NOT be leaving the SFC!!!

macca23 · Jun 22, 2005

Blues_Girl said:
NO!

He will NOT be leaving the SFC!!!

Certainly not for the AFL anyway.

Good summary by cro_Magnum on his record and abilities above.

The challenge is on. Can anyone name a player on our senior list with less natural ability or potential?

outback jack · Jun 22, 2005

macca23 said:
Certainly not for the AFL anyway.

Good summary by cro_Magnum on his record and abilities above.

The challenge is on. Can anyone name a player on our senior list with less natural ability or potential?

bock>!?! Oh wait..... everyone has done him to death. Biglands>? oh hes been crucified too(somewhat fairly though). Looks like jack is out of talent

Markthirtytwo · Jun 23, 2005

outback jack said:
bock>!?! Oh wait..... everyone has done him to death. Biglands>? oh hes been crucified too(somewhat fairly though). Looks like jack is out of talent

Someone's been tickling your funny bone Jackie.

GoSarge · Jun 23, 2005

cro_Magnum said:
I've followed Sturt for many years and have been watching him on TV and live since he transferred from the Port Magpies where he wasn't getting enough opportunities. He showed some early promise but never kicked on.

He was taken in the 2000 draft as our 3rd pick behind Angwin and Handby (!) although we did get Skippy and Stiffy late. So he has been on the list or rookied for 5 years and still hasn't had a game - must be a record. He probably would have had a game late last year but pulled a hamstring and was never tested, and Parker ended up being delisted instead.

The best I could say is he's "solid" at SANFL level but I don't think Sturt would slash their wrists if he went home. He's occasionally in the best players but never dominates or is BOG (even Skipworth was named BOG for the Crows in 1 match this year), and I doubt he would be in the State side if eligible, so I can't see what he would offer at AFL level.

You make a fair point. I too think he is a 'solid' SANFL player. Nothing special, but does seem to get the job done pretty well every week. Unfortunately, in AFL you need to have a few more strings to your bows. Being solid alone just wont cut it.

However, you did mention he 'nearly always gets beaten in 1 on 1 contests' which isn't true. As for being occassionally in the best players, I would say he's there a bit more than that. In fact just last week I think it was, he was named as Sturt's best.

Like most, I'd be super surprised if he proved he was up to AFL standard, but give credit where it is due.

p.s. - I am not related to M Smith in any way

outback jack · Jun 23, 2005

Markthirtytwo said:
Someone's been tickling your funny bone Jackie.

yeah something like that

cro_Magnum · Jun 23, 2005

GoSarge said:
You make a fair point. I too think he is a 'solid' SANFL player. Nothing special, but does seem to get the job done pretty well every week. Unfortunately, in AFL you need to have a few more strings to your bows. Being solid alone just wont cut it.

However, you did mention he 'nearly always gets beaten in 1 on 1 contests' which isn't true. As for being occassionally in the best players, I would say he's there a bit more than that. In fact just last week I think it was, he was named as Sturt's best.

Like most, I'd be super surprised if he proved he was up to AFL standard, but give credit where it is due.

p.s. - I am not related to M Smith in any way

Fair call, he was one of their best last week although the rest of the team were absolutely shocking.

I really hope he reads these comments, gets angry and proves us all wrong. If not he can't complain he didn't get enough time on the list but I think the AFC could have given him at least 1 game in 5 years.

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