Prediction Michael Barlow

[Stiffy_18]

I reckon the Hawks will likely go Barrett, much,much younger, more athletic.....and Mitchell, Lewis and other depth mids let go so he'd be excellent depth....and his cousin Luke Bruest already there.

If I was a betting man, I would put money and them getting Henderson. Seems to fit more of what they are after. His kicking and pace fit in better with their needs especially since they lost Hill and haven't really replaced that outside speed.

 

[WaynesWorld19]

What if he plays and Thommo also plays?

It depends on what happens around those two: Barlow and Thommo ........if Cameron can come to a wing / midfield ....if Menzel can step up .....put some extra pace around them

Sydneys Parker and Kennedy are not that quick & don't rely on pace in their games

 

[WaynesWorld19]

If I was a betting man, I would put money and them getting Henderson. Seems to fit more of what they are after. His kicking and pace fit in better with their needs especially since they lost Hill and haven't really replaced that outside speed.

Completely agree ........as i read the other day, it was Henderson who initiated the desire to be traded .......but his gamestyle will suit the Hawks

 

[Elite Crow]

Barlow is 28 and will play entire season in 2017 as a 29 year old. It means if it is a 3 year deal he will be 31 for the duration of that year 3.

Yes I would take that! Seriously, people have their knickers in a knot because he is a delisted FA. If this were a trade period rumour for a draft pick people would be all over it.

I would be comfortable with a 3 year deal. He replaces Thompson in the midfield, takes a bit of pressure of Sloane while still allowing the youngsters to develop. I don't see a problem with it.

People don't have their knickers in a know because he's a delisted free abent. Some of us have our jocks in a knot because he's a slow mid with average footskills.

 

[Danger in Texas]

BTW the reason Neale suited Fremantle was because his 3 compatriots ; Fyfe, Mundy, Barlow were all 190cm plus ......so Neale balance Freo, he doesn't do the same for Adelaide that a Laird couldn't do in the midfield if we wished, with better footskills and decision making .....BTW Laird is also a AA squad member

Laird is best used on the outside though. Nowhere near the contested, clearance-winning bull that Neale is.

 

[WaynesWorld19]

Laird is best used on the outside though. Nowhere near the contested, clearance-winning bull that Neale is.

Lairds not an outside player though? .......and lets see how Neale goes this year with a greater spotlight? ......or do clubs not focus on him as much as Fyfe, Mundy, Barlow because of his poor skills ?

As Roo said in the Freo game .....if Neale doesn't improve his footskills, his team mates won't want to give him the ball

Peter J ......there, that tells you what Roo and Adelaide Football Club think of Neale

 

[Tex200]

Lairds not an outside player though? .......and lets see how Neale goes this year with a greater spotlight? ......or do clubs not focus on him as much as Fyfe, Mundy, Barlow because of his poor skills ?

As Roo said in the Freo game .....if Neale doesn't improve his footskills, his team mates won't want to give him the ball

Peter J ......there, that tells you what Roo and Adelaide Football Club think of Neale

Now you're contradicting yourself, you said that you thought he was a good player just not suited to our mix.

Now you're saying he's no good. I can't debate with someone not thinking rationally, sorry.

 

[Stiffy_18]

What if he plays and Thommo also plays?

You could count those games on one hand and I am not sure that you would need a full hand for it either.

This question tells me more about your lack of trust in the coaching panel more so than in Barlow as a football player.

 

[Elite Crow]

You could count those games on one hand and I am not sure that you would need a full hand for it either.

This question tells me more about your lack of trust in the coaching panel more so than in Barlow as a football player.

Why should he trust the coaching panel?

With Barlow and the Crouch boys we will have 3 mids that handball a lot and aren't great kicks and 2 of them are slow, you happy with that?

 

[Stiffy_18]

People don't have their knickers in a know because he's a delisted free abent. Some of us have our jocks in a knot because he's a slow mid with average footskills.

Every midfield in the AFL has a slow midfielder or two in it. Kennedy and Parker are certainly no speed demons. As for average footskills, he is no worse than Thompson or Lyons who he will be replacing.

 

[Danger in Texas]

Lairds not an outside player though? .......and lets see how Neale goes this year with a greater spotlight? ......or do clubs not focus on him as much as Fyfe, Mundy, Barlow because of his poor skills ?

As Roo said in the Freo game .....if Neale doesn't improve his footskills, his team mates won't want to give him the ball

Peter J ......there, that tells you what Roo and Adelaide Football Club think of Neale

Laird is certainly an outside player, gets most of his possessions in space (partially because of the role he plays, but you don't see him winning a whole heap of contested ball).

Neale has his limitations, and I agree that he's not the best fit in our midfield due to height, but by no means would I turn him down if he did end up wanting to come to us. At the end of the day, he is a massive accumulator, a contested beast and a clearance machine.

 

[Iron]

What if he plays and Thommo also plays?

Separate issue really.

 

[Elite Crow]

Every midfield in the AFL has a slow midfielder or two in it. Kennedy and Parker are certainly no speed demons. As for average footskills, he is no worse than Thompson or Lyons who he will be replacing.

So we've replaced a weakness with a weakness and besides Lyons cleaned up his disposal a lot. Ask Tex which of our mids he preferred passing to him.

 

[WaynesWorld19]

Now you're contradicting yourself, you said that you thought he was a good player just not suited to our mix.

Now you're saying he's no good. I can't debate with someone not thinking rationally, sorry.

READ THE POST .......i stated what Roo and the AFC think .....and somehow you then associate that with my thoughts ......I said what i said, not what you think i said

 

[WaynesWorld19]

Laird is certainly an outside player, gets most of his possessions in space (partially because of the role he plays, but you don't see him winning a whole heap of contested ball).

Neale has his limitations, and I agree that he's not the best fit in our midfield due to height, but by no means would I turn him down if he did end up wanting to come to us. At the end of the day, he is a massive accumulator, a contested beast and a clearance machine.

You say that but Neales Contract $value for a want not need player, would probably preclude us from getting a player of real need .....that to me makes no sense ??

 

[Tex200]

READ THE POST .......i stated what Roo and the AFC think .....and somehow you then associate that with my thoughts ......I said what i said, not what you think i said

You said he had poor skills. You denying that?

 

[WaynesWorld19]

You said he had poor skills. You denying that?

I actually said he was a good player .....who has some poor footskills ........those statements don't contradict each other

Dangerfield is elite ....but has erratic footskills ......does that make him a poor player ? .....I'm saying no, you're claiming yes i gather ?

 

[Vader]

I can see Thommo & Mackay not being in the team for R1 next year. Mackay was the 21st or 22nd player selected most weeks this year, and I would hope that Knight would overtake him with a full pre-season under his belt. Barlow would replace one of Thommo/Lyons. That still leaves one position available for "organic growth" from our existing players - might be CEY, but I'd prefer it was someone who can actually hit a target by foot more often than I roll snake eyes with a pair of die.

 

[Drugs Are Bad Mackay?]

Separate issue really.

Quite a few posters are saying that recruiting Barlow is fine, that it won't stop the young players developing because it's likely Thompson, Douglas and/or Mackay will make way.

 

[Carmo]

For disposal averages, Barlow was around 50th in the comp, so about 3 players per team better at collecting disposals. If you take out half back flankers that often get disposals by recieving rather than getting their own, then he's up to about 40th in the comp. He'd be the fourth midfielder in pretty much all teams in the comp.

This is for no draft picks, only salary which we should have plenty of.

Yes he's not fast at the start of the game, but he is by the end, by that I mean he's an endurance beast and because of that, while everyone is slowing down at the end, he's still up and going. Unlike Thommo who's slow at the start and treacle by the end

Just because we have him doesnt mean he automatically plays. Would be handy to have if he's in good form to play or if he's in just ok form he'd be good for a backup for injury.

 

[mattymac]

I still can't believe people think Thommo will be playing in the SANFL haha. You guys haven't been paying attention

 

[DD#23]

I can see Thommo & Mackay not being in the team for R1 next year. Mackay was the 21st or 22nd player selected most weeks this year, and I would hope that Knight would overtake him with a full pre-season under his belt. Barlow would replace one of Thommo/Lyons. That still leaves one position available for "organic growth" from our existing players - might be CEY, but I'd prefer it was someone who can actually hit a target by foot more often than I roll snake eyes with a pair of die.

ahh this old chestnut... for what its worth in advance in a straight shootout between CEY and Wigg in 2017 I'd give Wigg first crack by a street, but CEY is a more than serviceable kick from most positions. Not only can he hoof it and score goals from beyond 50 he also hit Tex on the lead on several occasions during his run of games in 2015.

and because you'll want stats to back that up here are a list of players who had less goal assists per game than Cam in 2015: Jarryd Lyons, Brodie Smith, Nathan Van Berlo, Scott Thompson, Ricky Henderson, David MacKay, Rory Atkins and Matt Crouch. That's not doing too badly IMO. He also got it through the big sticks twice as often as Mackay, playing a more contested role and only averaging 64% TOG.

no he'll never be Nat Fyfe but he has similar tools and Walsh is the only guy at the club who's ever given him a shot which he certainly deserves.

 

[earlsta]

I can see Thommo & Mackay not being in the team for R1 next year. Mackay was the 21st or 22nd player selected most weeks this year, and I would hope that Knight would overtake him with a full pre-season under his belt. Barlow would replace one of Thommo/Lyons. That still leaves one position available for "organic growth" from our existing players - might be CEY, but I'd prefer it was someone who can actually hit a target by foot more often than I roll snake eyes with a pair of die.

Seed or Hampton will replace Dmacs role in the team IMO. Knight will play similar to Lyons role.
How many games did Smith, DMac & Seedsman play together in the same team this year? Without checking the stats because I'm too lazy I'd say like one or two matches.

 

[mattymac]

If we get Barlow our midfield will be Sloane, Thommo, Barlow and the Crouch bros

Even slower than this year.

 

[MRB37]

Laird is certainly an outside player, gets most of his possessions in space (partially because of the role he plays, but you don't see him winning a whole heap of contested ball).

Neale has his limitations, and I agree that he's not the best fit in our midfield due to height, but by no means would I turn him down if he did end up wanting to come to us. At the end of the day, he is a massive accumulator, a contested beast and a clearance machine.

Was 8th in the AFL for uncontested possessions per game this year (and as a result, was 2nd in effective disposals per game).