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hey shorty said:
Matt Wright played 20 games for us last year and was delisted because we felt we had better options in his position. He went on to have a perfectly good year.

Fremantle are obviously keen to rebuild and they see Barlow at 28 as not as good an option as a Weller or a fit (hopefully) Bennell. Fyfe and Mundy provide the experience with the kids around them.

If we are indeed using Thommo as a break glasser then our side looks devoid of big, experienced bodies. For a side that appears to want to challenge for a flag in the next year or 2 thats a big no-no. You can point to the Bulldogs but I see them as an outlier opposed to a new trend.

Barlow may or may not work, but IMO he's worth a go.
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Yes he is worth a go, one year contract that's it if they tie themselves up with a three year deal then they are tapped. As it's pretty damn clear freo have concerns with his body as does every other team in the AFL because if he is as good as everyone is saying there would be 16 other teams lining up to get a free hit and they are not.
 
deaneus said:
Not in this case.

There's a clearly younger midfield in there needing games, he's older, maybe they tried and got nothing from way of trade opportunities, so we effectively were the last bloke in the pub at closing time but still managed to pick up something we liked.

Apologies for the metaphor but it seemed about right.
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You meant beer didn't you ??
 
deaneus said:
Not in this case.

There's a clearly younger midfield in there needing games, he's older, maybe they tried and got nothing from way of trade opportunities, so we effectively were the last bloke in the pub at closing time but still managed to pick up something we liked.

Apologies for the metaphor but it seemed about right.
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What about the 16 other teams get a full blown legend for nicks, where do they sign?
 

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marty36 said:
Yes he is worth a go, one year contract that's it if they tie themselves up with a three year deal then they are tapped. As it's pretty damn clear freo have concerns with his body as does every other team in the AFL because if he is as good as everyone is saying there would be 16 other teams lining up to get a free hit and they are not.
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You know he has the choice if there are multiple suitors right? I can't see him fitting into every other club - just like he doesn't fit into Freo anymore.

So if there were say two realistic options left after enquiries - similar length deals on similar coin - and one was Gold Coast and one was Adelaide ... couldn't you see how maybe a person who was looking for success might choose AFC if they have maybe 2 seasons left in the AFL? I can. I also think GC will improve a lot next year and even more the year after, but they also have talent waiting to push him out of his position. Adelaide are a great match for him because he can slot straight into a good midfield and (hopefully) make it better.
 
OutofTownCrow said:
You know he has the choice if there are multiple suitors right? I can't see him fitting into every other club - just like he doesn't fit into Freo anymore.

So if there were say two realistic options left after enquiries - similar length deals on similar coin - and one was Gold Coast and one was Adelaide ... couldn't you see how maybe a person who was looking for success might choose AFC if they have maybe 2 seasons left in the AFL? I can. I also think GC will improve a lot next year and even more the year after, but they also have talent waiting to push him out of his position. Adelaide are a great match for him because he can slot straight into a good midfield and (hopefully) make it better.
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I'm dumb founded there is no concern about his body, people are talking up his ability which he did have a few fantastic seasons, but even freo supporters were concerned about his fitness. At his age with the injuries he has had, it's pretty damn logical to concern with yourself that there is a massive chance he is cooked. The offer we give needs to take this punt into consideration
 
marty36 said:
Yes I'm hearing certain people saying he is going to play top quality footy

Yet the only reason we have for freo wanting him out and getting absolutely zero return is they want some young players, is that being serious
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think you're a bit thin on the reasons there.

We wanted a trade, none was offered, Michael was clear on what his options were.
A lot of WAFL footy.
no contract and Blakely being preferred with Mundy as the oldy as he's contracted and currently captain..

You also need to remember we have Fyfe coming up for renewal. Guys like Barlow who have someone else taking his spot also chew up TPP, especially when we have traded in 4 guys on average to above average coin
We can get a first-third year to play his role and throw the money at Fyfe
 
marty36 said:
I'm dumb founded there is no concern about his body, people are talking up his ability which he did have a few fantastic seasons, but even freo supporters were concerned about his fitness. At his age with the injuries he has had, it's pretty damn logical to concern with yourself that there is a massive chance he is cooked. The offer we give needs to take this punt into consideration
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His injuries were impact injuries not soft tissue, so if his shoulder is structurally fine he'll be good to go.

I wish we'd kept him personally, but Suban had a damn contract :mad:
 
marty36 said:
Only reading the main board but it appears Geelong have pulled out, wonder why, don't tell me they don't need top quality players!
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There's an article posted earlier that Geelong have salary cap issues according to Stephen Wells and I think it was their list manager.
 

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marty36 said:
Only reading the main board but it appears Geelong have pulled out, wonder why, don't tell me they don't need top quality players!
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Cash would be one reason but I don't think he'd be a huge need either when they've got Selwood and Dangerfield as hard inside midfielders. Obviously they've lost one in Caddy but with the squeeze required to get him, mightn't be worth it - that's assuming they can match what other clubs are able to offer.

Lach72 said:
His injuries were impact injuries not soft tissue, so if his shoulder is structurally fine he'll be good to go.

I wish we'd kept him personally, but Suban had a damn contract :mad:
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Do you know how he was recovering post his shoulder operation? Sanders posted an article here somewhere in this thread which was shortly after he did it where there were some serious concerns over just how bad it was.

Edit: link - https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/michael-barlow.1150570/page-9#post-47572659
 
dylan123 said:
Cash would be one reason but I don't think he'd be a huge need either when they've got Selwood and Dangerfield as hard inside midfielders. Obviously they've lost one in Caddy but with the squeeze required to get him, mightn't be worth it - that's assuming they can match what other clubs are able to offer.


Do you know how he was recovering post his shoulder operation? Sanders posted an article here somewhere in this thread which was shortly after he did it where there were some serious concerns over just how bad it was.

Edit: link - https://www.bigfooty.com/forum/threads/michael-barlow.1150570/page-9#post-47572659
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No doubt we will here the fact he will barely do a pre season and there were complications which is why he is struggling

Just from an article below

Barlow said he will have the plate removed early into summer training and follow a stringent recovery and rebuilding schedule in a bid to continue his AFL playing days.
 
deaneus said:
Ouch!

My two cents:

Gibbs surprised us, and we were right not to go for 2 first round picks. He was perfect, but no. Maybe next year, we'll see.

Because we sold our 2nd rounder last year, we needed to fill the gap for Ben Jarman points; Lyons was our only currency, as every one else we'd actually give up, has zero value (and I love the guy, it hurts bad but it's the right thing to do)

We can bring Barlow in for the equivalent of pick 89 or whatever.

Ignoring cash, the situation is effectively:

IN: Barlow, pick 43
OUT: Lyons

and that's a good deal.

If the club keeps its word and suddenly Thommo is placed in a small red box with a glass front that says "break in case of emergency", great. I'd expect people like Seedsman, Hampton, Wigg, Menzel et al to overtake Douglas and Mackay during next year, and we'll finish the year with the kind of team most of us here want. Barlow will bring us stats like these:

http://www.footywire.com/afl/footy/...id2=2&type=A&pid1=3389&pid2=292&fid1=S&fid2=S

and it tells me they've basically got the same statistical output, but with a +5% DE for Barlow.

Barlow is the completely unfashionable but smart option. The heart doesn't like it, but the head says it's the right move.
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Did I miss something, are you no longer a mod?
 
Bicks said:
Barlow doesn't cost anything other than a list spot and cap space??...
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Exactly. Imo, he's ahead of Douglas and DMac in our 22, provides midfield support and we keep picks 13 and 43 in play. We aren't expecting miracles from him but it's not like he's 33/34 years old.


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marty36 said:
I'm dumb founded there is no concern about his body, people are talking up his ability which he did have a few fantastic seasons, but even freo supporters were concerned about his fitness. At his age with the injuries he has had, it's pretty damn logical to concern with yourself that there is a massive chance he is cooked. The offer we give needs to take this punt into consideration
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Surely any offer is based on a medical, or at least youd hope.


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Lach72 said:
His injuries were impact injuries not soft tissue, so if his shoulder is structurally fine he'll be good to go.

I wish we'd kept him personally, but Suban had a damn contract :mad:
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Dunno why we just wouldn't have traded a very late pick for him ?


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We are weak in midfield depth, we were this year and we will be weaker next year without Lyons. Remember how we looked against WC without Sloane! Last season we refused to trust our younger players when Thommo, Mackay and Douglas could have easily been dropped on form. Now we have no form guide on Wigg, Knight, Gore or even Claude the Crow. I'm worried this is gonna bite us if we have an average/horror run with injuries this year. Next season if Sloane goes down, I don't want to be picking thommo for experience, his time has passed.
 
Sounds like Gold Coast may delisting a contracted player to get him, according to a couple of Suns board posters.

Now I'd definitely like us to get him, and think he will improve us, but won't be fussed or upset if he chooses GC
 

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