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Funny, but if he was not delisted and B.Hall gets injured next year IMO he could still be playing full forward/forward unless kids like Grant really improve.

A few stats...he is 188cm, 99kg, 29 y/o kicked 34,38,15 goals (08,09,10). With B.Hall playing last year his goal tally was halved but interestingly he still kicked 2 goals (the most of any bulldog) in the prelim loss to St Kilda. With Will Minson as backup ruck he was not used in that role judging by stats.

I am not sure what position he played last year in his 19 games but as that mature forward/defender who could be used if injuries occur to Tarrant, L.Brown, Dawes, Cloke, N.Brown, B.Reid he may be worth a look.

Any benefit in M.Hahn guys?
 

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Uh... Why?

What's the difference between Mitch Hahn and Brent Macaffer, other than the fact that Mitch Hahn isn't a premiership player and is well past his prime.
 
smiddaz123 said:
Would happily take him for free in the PSD.
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HELL YES.

sure on face value it might be considered he aint in the best 22, BUT injuries do happen, suspensions do happen, and players of hahns ability and experience are very useful & adaptable when you are the premier team.

remember folks we have a very big window at present and id say need to do everything to ensure the window of opportunity is filled with premiership cups.
 
Vinnie Vegas said:
Uh... Why?

What's the difference between Mitch Hahn and Brent Macaffer, other than the fact that Mitch Hahn isn't a premiership player and is well past his prime.
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Macaffer isn't invincible. Injuries can happen, form can also be lost.

We've lost a few medium forwards this off season, what would be the harm in Mitch Hahn as a depth player? We've got enough youth, with a heap more being added this off season.

We're in a premiership window, who would add more to our chances, Mitch Hahn or a speculative project draft pick?
 
Hahn would possibly be a better option than a few others and if we hadn't just won the flag I'd serioulsy consider it. As it is though, we should now be trying to sift through as much young talent as we can in the hope of turining up a like Maxwell and O'Brien. Given we already traded picks for Tarrant & Krakour, it's time to stock up on youth IMO.
 
Agree with Smiddaz and whilst I see the value in looking for youth I am a bigger believer in making sure you do everything you can to make the most of the oppertunity while you have it. A guy like Hahn is AFL ready, able to play a role and likely to be gettable pretty cheap. As it is I think someone else will take him before we have the chance, if that doesn't happen no reason not to take it.

As Smiddaz mentions the players aren't invincible form fluctuates, injuries happen. At worst Hahn will be a handy back up / VFL player who gets a couple games to help us manage player work load. At best he could be a valuable role player.

We have lost the security of Medhurst and Anthony so a guy like Hahn would be handy.
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smiddaz123 said:
We're in a premiership window, who would add more to our chances, Mitch Hahn or a speculative project draft pick?
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While right now you may seem to have a point, these speculative players formed a solid part of the premiership team. Maxwell, O'Brien and Toovey down back were rookies. So were McCaffer, Blair off the top and I've probably overlooked one or two. There were also some late draft selections who came good.

Let's try and stay up for a long period. We shouldn't sacrifice a premiership for a future window but we shouldn't shut the window either.
 
MarkT2 said:
Hahn would possibly be a better option than a few others and if we hadn't just won the flag I'd serioulsy consider it. As it is though, we should now be trying to sift through as much young talent as we can in the hope of turining up a like Maxwell and O'Brien. Given we already traded picks for Tarrant & Krakour, it's time to stock up on youth IMO.
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We got a youth as well as Krakeour for our draft pick. We traded a pick for Tarrant, sure, but didn't we get a pick around that range for Fraser as compensation anyway?

We'll have a fairly young side next year, I think we're pretty much set for youth. We'll do what? Draft Tom Young and 2 or 3 other kids, and leave a spot in the PSD for Hahn? I'd be happy with that outcome. How many spots do we have left open?
 
I wouldn't waste a draft pick on him, as we have 5 (?) now, and I'd like to see Hine really given a chance to build our youth through this draft and the next, even if they are comprimised.

I can see how he would be decent backup for the likes of MaCaffer, Didak, and even a Dawes, but heck, if Mitch Hahn gets a game for Collingwood in 2011, write off the season, we are done.

Plus, I can see him getting in the way of the chances of senior selection for young players like Rounds, Reed, Keefe and even smaller forward options.

Maybe a mature aged rookie option, but not on the senior list.
 

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MarkT2 said:
While right now you may seem to have a point, these speculative players formed a solid part of the premiership team. Maxwell, O'Brien and Toovey down back were rookies. So were McCaffer, Blair off the top and I've probably overlooked one or two. There were also some late draft selections who came good.
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Mitch Hahn won't effect our rookie drafting though, he'll be taking a senior list spot. The rookie draft should be used for the speculative picks.

It's a situation probably not dissimilar to drafting Leigh Brown last year. A strongly built, aggressive guy can come in handy on the senior list. Leave the project players and outside shots at making it for the rookie draft.
 
mattys123 said:
I wouldn't waste a draft pick on him, as we have 5 (?) now, and I'd like to see Hine really given a chance to build our youth through this draft and the next, even if they are comprimised.

I can see how he would be decent backup for the likes of MaCaffer, Didak, and even a Dawes, but heck, if Mitch Hahn gets a game for Collingwood in 2011, write off the season, we are done.

Maybe a mature aged rookie option, but not on the senior list.
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This is pure short sighted non-sense. Hahn is, for example at a better stage now then Leigh Brown was when we got him. He is no where near a Didak replacement but far more a KPF / Medium marking target similar in role, not style to Medhurst (or Caff)

We have 5 picks but some of them are at extremely high numbers and whilst I rate our ability to find talent the fact is any player we get at that range isn't going to be having an impact in the next 3 years. A guy like Hahn is.

To say if player X gets a game we won't win a flag is non-sense. Hahn for example would be more then capable of playing the role Goldsack did on GF2. Having depth, competition for spots and security of structure is extremely under rated.
 
mattys123 said:
I wouldn't waste a draft pick on him, as we have 5 (?) now, and I'd like to see Hine really given a chance to build our youth through this draft and the next, even if they are comprimised.

I can see how he would be decent backup for the likes of MaCaffer, Didak, and even a Dawes, but heck, if Mitch Hahn gets a game for Collingwood in 2011, write off the season, we are done.
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Rubbish. I don't think I even need to explain how ridiculous that kind of thinking is. I would've thought Leigh Brown proved that kind of thinking wrong. One player's selection in a few games if injuries occur won't be the cause to write of an entire season.

mattys123 said:
Plus, I can see him getting in the way of the chances of senior selection for young players like Rounds, Reed, Keefe and even smaller forward options.
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None of these guys will provide better output in 2011 than Hahn.
 
smiddaz123 said:
None of these guys will provide better output in 2011 than Hahn.
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This. Just to point out the hole in your logic.

Hahn is a better option in season 2011 then Rounds, Keeffe, Reed etc

Hahn is such a bad option that if he gets a game in 2011 you can write our season off.

Keeffe, Rounds, Reed et al. would be preferable to Hahn.
 

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Hahn is finished, used himself as a battering ram for soft bulldogs sides as the only thing that semi resembles a power forward.

Has slowed down far too much and is too suspect with injuries
 
Sorry guys I forgot to include this question in the OP.

I see his value definitely in the forward line and possibly in the defence, and maybe even having a third benefit.

If say L.Brown gets suspended or injured, despite being only 188cm, do you think Collingwood could use him in the ruck for 5 minutes a quarter just to compete so Jolly can rest...or is Wood straight in if any L.Brown issues.

He had 24 hitouts in 2003 but I guess he may be too short for this benefit.

Any chance of using him in this role (against other club's 2nd string ruckmen) especially with the new bench rules considered?
 
Don't mind us taking a punt on recycleds, but preferable someone closer to low 20's, like a Neagle if he is delisted, or one of the Beau's.

I tend to agree with MarkT - grab a handful of young prospects in ND and PSD and shake them through the sieve to see if anything substantial remains. With our system I'd hope we'd have a 1 in four chance of snagging a 5 year player for us, more than Hahn will have left.

Not as versatile as Leroy who is tall enough to ruck and go back / fwd - the ruck option saved his bacon. We don't have any shortage of excellent players to run through as small forward options, so can't see a spot.
 
Honestly, anyone who wants Mitch Hahn is almost moronic.

He has never performed on the big stage (finals), is 29, isn't tall enough to play Key position, or at least he doesn't play like a KPP, and he simply isn't a class player.

I don't want him, I really hope we ignore all the "recycled" players out there, I don't see anything I like, at all, that can help us win another premiership, and ultimately that's what it's about.

Question to those "Hahn-believers", do you think we would win the 2011 Grand Final if Mitch Hahn was playing in our side?
 

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