History Multiculturalism in history - any examples?

[Monniehawk]

No. For analogical purposes the nature of the difference is irrelevant i.e. biology vs culture. With this post you've simply demonstrated that you don't know what an analogy is.
In fact, it could be argued the analogy works best when the analogous example is more distant from the object example, whilst still incorporating the concept(s) being demonstrated. So in this case the poster's error, if anything, was using an example too close the object. (you may wish to blame your error on this point)

Only, it is less an analogy than it is a metaphor.
The method here is to draw a parallel - as a convincing argument - by using a comparison, but it fails to convince because the underlying logic is impaired because it does not address a series of relevant and telling facts.
In either case (metaphor or analogy), it is easily countered by reasoned argument - as has happened.......

It doesn't matter why they are together, the point is they are together and they don't get along.
Let me clarify. In the ANALOGY they don't get along.
Your disagreement with that point is to disagree with the argument presented, that does not make his/her analogy incorrect which was raised to demonstrate THEIR argument.
Plus I'll add, humans have a long, long history of beating the #### out of people from different cultures.

....and gains further credence by adding other examples that patently ignore other relevancies!
Certainly the metaphor/analogy contends that "they don't get along." It is a little specious, though!
It has a blunt implication that it is natural and immutable fact. As pointed out, there are many examples where cultural mixes are well able to coexist peacefully and harmoniously. Just not ALL of them!
But..
There are numerous examples of the monocultural brutal wars being fought over minute differences of opinion. It is a human trait, without a specific cultural, religious, national or physiological imperative. All too often, these are used to mask the true issue of man's innate hubris when someone presents something different. THAT is the issue we have to overcome - not multiculturalism, religion, politics or nationality!

• FAR more Christians have been killed by other Christians than by any other religious group! Historical fact!

The list of bloody civil wars were fought over primarily political/ideological beliefs and account for untold carnage within cultures.

• The American Civil War was fought between Anglo-Celtic Americans.
• Previously, they had waged a protracted war against the culture that spawned them - England!
• Wars between nations invariably have power, property and resources as the imperative. To ensure troops are inspired to kill or overpower the 'enemy', a process of demonisation and brainwashing is required. But we see that in that in any conflict.

It could be argued that such intra-cultural wars are also more opportunistic (homogeneous communities are by definition in close proximity and thus are more able to fight) but this is another moot point in the birdcage metaphor.
Finally, I think it is a fair definition of how civilised a culture really is when among its primary pursuits is acceptance, hospitality and tolerance.

 

[Wonaeamirri33]

Your disagreement with his/her argument, or an underlying presumption of it, doesn't invalidate his analogy, which was a correct presentation of his argument.

Hai Xsess

 

[Anon123]

It has a blunt implication that it is natural and immutable fact. As pointed out, there are many examples where cultural mixes are well able to coexist peacefully and harmoniously. Just not ALL of them!

Not quite, some birds will get along. Budgies and canaries will get along, to my knowledge. His analogy is accurate in that regard, they're all different and some will co-habit without dramas, others won't.

 

[Monniehawk]

Not quite, some birds will get along. Budgies and canaries will get along, to my knowledge. His analogy is accurate in that regard, they're all different and some will co-habit without dramas, others won't.

Oh, Really!!
False analogy - and quite shallow as constantly pointed out by subsequent posters!
It is not an argument on whether anyone can use an "analogy" (I still contend that it is a metaphor), it is whether the presented analogy is able to stand up under scrutiny when examined against its parallel. For a number of reasons outlined above, the example you are defending has huge holes in it. The deeper you dig, the more holes you find.
By all means use it to illustrate a point, but have the balls to accept that it is hardly the definitive argument you so avidly seek.
If that's your best, then frankly, you've got nuthin'.

 

[Anon123]

Yes, because the American Civil War was fought between Anglo-Celtic Americans, one cannot present as an analogy for multiculturalism in Australia the example of different bird species living together in a cage.

You Sir, win the internet.

 

[Monniehawk]

Yes, because the American Civil War was fought between Anglo-Celtic Americans, one cannot present as an analogy for multiculturalism in Australia the example of different bird species living together in a cage.
You Sir, win the internet.

You don't listen.
I never presumed an argument AGAINST using analogies or using the birdcage.

It is not an argument on whether anyone can use an "analogy"..., it is whether the presented analogy is able to stand up under scrutiny....
...By all means use it to illustrate a point....

I offered arguments to refute the propositions implied by the analogy/metaphor!
The U.S. Civil war was to illustrate that it is possible to make a point that is relevant, pertinent and applicable because it was a conflict within not only the one species, but the same culture! You see? Apples with apples, etc.
It was also for rebutting the implied "birdcage" proposition that, primarily, human conflict has a cultural essential. It supports my persistent proposition that conflict is a human condition, not specific to culture or belief. After all, the thread is about multiculturalism, not bird species.

They (culture and religion) may well be secondary factors - as could religion or nationality; but the primary factors are more likely combinations of greed, jealousy, fear, psychoses, power, egotism, ignorance, intolerance. Human conditions.
So the main propositions within the birdcage analogy have been argued to have illogical bases.
The use of an analogy is perfectly valid, though.
Just try to get good ones.