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PottSie2 said:
Yeah, that was quite strange.

But Foxtel Go is one of the best streaming apps/services on the market, so I think they would embrace the new digital world. Probably even more so than traditional free-to-air networks that rely on ad based revenue, as opposed to subscription (+ ad) based revenues ?
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They are one of the best now, which is probably why they would be uncomfortable with Labors plan which would further open the market up to competition.
 
Pie eyed said:
Strange stat considering 1/3 of the worlds population don't even have electricity and have never seen a telephone?
Maybe 5 computers for every first world person, if you count playstation 1's, Commodore 64's and digital watches.
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Mobile satellilte smartphones with self generation ? Stillma way five per person though
 

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Here is a story telling most of us what we already suspected

Confidential briefing: NBN unlikely to meet Coalition's deadline
http://www.smh.com.au/it-pro/govern...-meet-coalitions-deadline-20131128-hv3tp.html
The Coalition’s national broadband network model will prove inadequate for many businesses, is poorly planned and is unlikely to be completed on time, according to NBN Co’s internal analysis for the incoming Abbott government.

Obtained by Fairfax Media, the analysis casts doubts over the timing and cost-effectiveness of the government’s proposed fibre-to-the-node model, highlighting numerous legislative, construction and technical challenges likely to blow out the Coalition’s 2016 and 2019 delivery deadlines.

The draft document also slashes revenue projections important for the project’s commercial viability by up to 30 per cent by 2021.
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http://www.smh.com.au/it-pro/govern...-meet-coalitions-deadline-20131128-hv3tp.html
 
If only turnbull would do a pyne on this and go back to the drawing board

I suspect this is one promise they will stubbornly keep.


Damn those so called experts
 
Pessimistic said:
If only turnbull would do a pyne on this and go back to the drawing board

I suspect this is one promise they will stubbornly keep.


Damn those so called experts
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hopefully common sense will prevail and we get a better outcome than either promised before the election

let's wait and see
 
Power Raid said:
hopefully common sense will prevail and we get a better outcome than either promised before the election

let's wait and see
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Wont Happen

Turnbull is a coward like his leader , they got into government by deceit wiht the help of murdoch and cronies
 
Being an RSP was always the best way to deliver Foxtel over the NBN.

The brilliance of this move is that they are using Telstra's Wholesale network so they don't have to set up any connection to the POI's themselves.

Murdoch isn't stupid and will hedge his bets, no NBN is still better for him commercially as he has more control/market share.
 

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swingdog said:
Oh dear, this isn't going well.

http://www.smh.com.au/federal-polit...plan-to-break-nbn-promise-20131212-2z8ir.html
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Here's the report.

http://nbnco.com.au/content/dam/nbnco/documents/NBN-Co-Strategic-Review-Report.pdf

At first look it defies belief. Of course it's written by the current NBNCo so not surprisingly it has a massive crack at the previous NBNCo. That's not exactly surprising and I'm sure there's a lot of things they got wrong. Of course they also concentrate as much as possible on projections in the short-term rather than long term to continually point out benefits from building a technology that comes on line quicker. But here are a few things that stand out to me:

1. Steady state projections. Apparently they've predicted that once the networks are completed the Labor version, which provides a monopoly on fixed line communications, would earn $6.6-7.5B in revenue yearly while the coalition alternative, with no monopoly and lower top speeds, would earn $6.3-7.2B. That's right, by giving up their right to a monopoly and being unable to provide top end speeds which bring in the most revenue, overall revenue is going to be hurt by less than 5%.

2. Future Upgrade Costs. The report claims that it will be billions of dollars CHEAPER to roll out FTTN now and then upgrade to a better technology at a later date for speed increases than to roll out FTTP from the start.
 
Footy Smarts said:
Here's the report.

http://nbnco.com.au/content/dam/nbnco/documents/NBN-Co-Strategic-Review-Report.pdf

At first look it defies belief. Of course it's written by the current NBNCo so not surprisingly it has a massive crack at the previous NBNCo. That's not exactly surprising and I'm sure there's a lot of things they got wrong. Of course they also concentrate as much as possible on projections in the short-term rather than long term to continually point out benefits from building a technology that comes on line quicker. But here are a few things that stand out to me:

1. Steady state projections. Apparently they've predicted that once the networks are completed the Labor version, which provides a monopoly on fixed line communications, would earn $6.6-7.5B in revenue yearly while the coalition alternative, with no monopoly and lower top speeds, would earn $6.3-7.2B. That's right, by giving up their right to a monopoly and being unable to provide top end speeds which bring in the most revenue, overall revenue is going to be hurt by less than 5%.

2. Future Upgrade Costs. The report claims that it will be billions of dollars CHEAPER to roll out FTTN now and then upgrade to a better technology at a later date for speed increases than to roll out FTTP from the start.
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Yep the logic used is undeniable.
 
Ice-Wolf said:
Yep the logic used is undeniable.
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Oh it gets worse. The ~3.7 million premises in areas where HFC cable is laid out will supposedly be joined to those networks and the NBNCo will upgrade them over time in order to give the speeds promised. But those networks are owned and operated by Telstra and Optus. There's no explanation about how they will get access to the networks or now much that will cost.

That's a third of premises where there's no explanation about how the commercial agreements, required for the network to be implemented, will be achieved.
 

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http://www.itnews.com.au/News/367388,coalition-nbn-to-cost-41bn-miss-delivery-dates.aspx

However, the Coalition's own pre-election pledges proved overly optimistic, with costs expected to come in at "around" $41 billion rather than the promised $29.5 billion.

The 2016 forecast to bring 25 Mbps to all Australians has also been canned. Instead, the Coalition predicts it will be able to bring download speeds of up to 25 Mbps to 43 percent of premises in Australia's fixed-line footprint by that time.

The Coalition's approach "should also be able to deliver access to wholesale speeds of up to 50 Mbps to 90 percent of Australia's fixed-line footprint and wholesale speeds of up to 100 Mbps to 65-75 percent by 2019".

The Coalition will only guarantee these speeds to NBN Co's wholesale customers — internet service providers. There will no longer be a guarantee of what each end user will see in terms of speeds delivered to the home.
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$41 Billion dollars for ADSL2++.....
 
Cripes.


http://www.heraldsun.com.au/technol...rs-previous-plan/story-fnjwnthp-1226781570899
New slower National Broadbank Network to cost $30 billion more than Labor's previous plan

THE new national broadband network will deliver slower speeds and cost up to $30 billion extra to deliver than its predecessor, it has emerged.
Communications Minister Malcolm Turnbull revealed there will be a $28.8 billion increase in costs for the whole project when completed in 11 years time, and the NBN will not complete its first stage by 2016 as first predicted.
That means the Government won't be able to deliver its promise of everyone having access to at least 25mbps of broadband by 2016.

The review said the full cost of the Turnbull option would be $72.9 billion and not the initial estimate of $44.1 billion.
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http://www.heraldsun.com.au/technol...rs-previous-plan/story-fnjwnthp-1226781570899

Hilarious the Coalition trying to blame Labor.

It was never going to be cheaper. It was never going to be a more efficient and flexible option.
 
yibbida said:
News Ltd got a bit excited, that report has a lot of errors in it.
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Regardless, it really puts to bed any claims of cheaper and more timely.

We will get a far worse service, at higher cost, on a timeline that seems to be completely arbitrary (i.e. one day in the distant future).
 

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