Preview National Draft discussion (Picks 14, 35, 43, 58)

[lunacy]

Without knowing much about the draft, you'd think given where Wright was expected to go (and probably would have if Brisbane/Carlton/Bulldogs did not trade out of the top 10) if he was to drop to our pick we'd take him given our lack of depth in KP forwards and also fills a need as another ruck.

That being said, it's hard to imagine we downgraded from 10 to 14 with the thought he'd drop back that far. With us doing that downgrade I believe we're of the thought the guy we're after will still be there at 14 rather then banking on someone like Wright dropping. It obviously goes against our 'best available' motto, but again, you wouldn't downgrade 4 picks down the draft unless you had someone in mind that you believed would still be there come 14.

Time will tell I guess.

Or they rate the guys from 6-17 so evenly it didn't really matter dropping 4 places if it meant they could add Cheney & Lowden and improve their later picks.

 

[skoobydoo]

Even if they got who they wanted at 10 with 14, it still won't stop people comparing who ends up being picked at 10, especially if they turn out to be a really good player.

Or 11, 12,13.

 

[Freddy Bassett]

Make sure who we get a 35 is also compared to 47... Oh and Lowden and Cheney.. Surely we will nail one of the 4 and justify the trade

 

[lunacy]

I say, let's put our balls on the line. Write the name down and put it in a sealed envelope to be opened on the morning after the Draft. Post it on AFC website as a video for all fans to see. If we are so confident our man would be there at 14 when we 'downgraded' our 10th pick then prove it. If it's correct then we wouldn't need to make comparisons with whoever is picked at 10...for their entire career. Would be a very interesting exercise.

Who cares? The recruiters made a decision and backed their judgement. It's possibly someone unforeseen slides but as long as the net result is positive that's fine. That shouldn't need to tell us.

 

[Jeffcrowe]

This would be how I'd be going about it for 14

1 - Petracca: He won't be there but might as well include him. streets ahead in this crop
2 - Brayshaw: Next best
3 - Lever: The possibilities are endless and he'd be a great list fit
4 - McCartin: Maybe a bit similar to Tex but still worth it
5 - Cockatoo: I really like this kid. Suits what we need perfectly
6 - Goddard: With Talia and Goddard we'd have two elite KPDs. Goddard is unquestionably the best stopper in this draft; does more too
7 - Weller: Not a linebreaker but an excellent outside ball user. Would suit
8 - Pickett: I'm warming a bit on him. Mightn't ever be AA standard but at worst I think he'd be a great list fit
9 - Menadue: Less safe bet than Pickett but higher upside IMO
10 - Wright: I, like most, am cooling. Still think he'll make it but not sure he's a great fit for us.
11 - Laverde: I'm cooling. If he gets there he could complete our midfield but there's every chance he just ends up another taller B/C grade flanker like we've got plenty of
12 - Blakely: He's inside hence why he's not higher but he's gonna be something special
13 - Durdin: KPD, gives options, has upside, SA born, fills a need
14 - Garlett: I rate him about where I do Pickett but he's not quite as good a list fit IMO
15 - De Goey: Too good not to take though he's not incredibly quick or elite by foot
16 - Marchbank: Options with him are endless - lots of water to go under the bridge as to whether he's got the frame for KPD hence he's lower
17 - Duggan: Just so skilled. Bottom age too so development is encouraging.
18 - Lamb: Attitude is looking better than it was mid year. So much upside with that height
19 - Viojo-Rainbow: Can never have too many elite kickers
20 - Ahern: Screams B grader to me but that said a B grader still isn't that bad a pickup.

 

[azza77]

Who would we rather if we had the option of one of these 2 at pick 14, Cockatoo or Menadue?

Both something we are looking for but finding it hard to pick between the 2 if they happen to be available at pick 14 (no way either would be available at 35).

Edit: Actually add Weller to that list, he's a big chance to slide...

Cockatoo vs Weller vs Menadue

 

[I Lost My Keays]

Who would we rather if we had the option of one of these 2 at pick 14, Cockatoo or Menadue?

Both something we are looking for but finding it hard to pick between the 2 if they happen to be available at pick 14 (no way either would be available at 35).

Edit: Actually add Weller to that list, he's a big chance to slide...

Cockatoo vs Weller vs Menadue

Menaue, due to fact he has the ability of playing back , forward and midfield...........

 

[Pugsley]

Menaue, due to fact he has the ability of playing back , forward and midfield...........

Add pace and I'm sold.

 

[Tex200]

Who would we rather if we had the option of one of these 2 at pick 14, Cockatoo or Menadue?

Both something we are looking for but finding it hard to pick between the 2 if they happen to be available at pick 14 (no way either would be available at 35).

Edit: Actually add Weller to that list, he's a big chance to slide...

Cockatoo vs Weller vs Menadue

I really like Weller but don't think he will be on our radar.

I think the only way we don't go KPP at 14 is if we go for X factor explosive pace. Weller is very neat (reminds me of T Edwards) but not X factor.

Pickett and Cockatoo I think will be gone so leaves us with Menadue and Garlett in that mould.

I think Garlett will have most appeal out of those 2. Good left foot which Walsh wants and runs both ways - will respond to team defence

 

[I Lost My Keays]

Add pace and I'm sold.

he's got great pace

 

[Pugsley]

he's got great pace

Take the lad if he's available.

 

[mickfaxis]

Who cares? The recruiters made a decision and backed their judgement. It's possibly someone unforeseen slides but as long as the net result is positive that's fine. That shouldn't need to tell us.

Why shouldn't there be more transparency in their selections? It would certainly stop all the cliche's and BS that come out of the mouth of every recruiter who says they picked the person they were after.

 

[lunacy]

Brett Anderson was just on SEN and said the draft is so even and you can throw a blanket of picks 5-25.

He also said clubs would have their list finalised already, so to the fans & journos it feels like the recruiters are changing their minds and still deciding, but in actually fact they've all finalised their lists.

 

[DJ75]

Brett Anderson was just on SEN and said the draft is so even and you can throw a blanket of picks 5-25.

He also said clubs would have their list finalised already, so to the fans & journos it feels like the recruiters are changing their minds and still deciding, but in actually fact they've all finalised their lists.

That would be very much correct. At the moment the majority of the boys are doing exams - and rules are that they can't be contacted by clubs. AFL is very strict on this.
The draft could be held today if it wasn't for exams - the recruiters would be ready

 

[Team DJ]

Who would we rather if we had the option of one of these 2 at pick 14, Cockatoo or Menadue?

Both something we are looking for but finding it hard to pick between the 2 if they happen to be available at pick 14 (no way either would be available at 35).

Edit: Actually add Weller to that list, he's a big chance to slide...

Cockatoo vs Weller vs Menadue

Cockatoo has a bit of Dangefield about him. Can play anywhere on the ground. Line breaking pace. The one telling difference for me in that Cockatoo can kick a Footy straight

 

[azza77]

I really like Weller but don't think he will be on our radar.

I think the only way we don't go KPP at 14 is if we go for X factor explosive pace. Weller is very neat (reminds me of T Edwards) but not X factor.

Pickett and Cockatoo I think will be gone so leaves us with Menadue and Garlett in that mould.

I think Garlett will have most appeal out of those 2. Good left foot which Walsh wants and runs both ways - will respond to team defence

Thing is with Weller he just does so much, he doesnt need that x factor. Not so much a line breaker, but a real polished and complete midfielder with good pace. Not Cockatoo/Menadue quick, but quick enough to add to our list.

Reminds me so much of Dustin Martin. Strong midfielder with beautiful skills and a lovely kick, can take a mark and has some toe. Would be hard not to pick him.

Forgot about Gartlett and would not be unhappy with that selection also.

 

[azza77]

Cockatoo has a bit of Dangefield about him. Can play anywhere on the ground. Line breaking pace. The one telling difference for me in that Cockatoo can kick a Footy straight

I really like the look of him and despite injuries, not sure how he started off at the range 20-50, thought he'd be much higher than that. Id take him also, but reckon he'd be gone before our pick the way things our sounding.

 

[Draft Bored]

Who would we rather if we had the option of one of these 2 at pick 14, Cockatoo or Menadue?

Both something we are looking for but finding it hard to pick between the 2 if they happen to be available at pick 14 (no way either would be available at 35).

Edit: Actually add Weller to that list, he's a big chance to slide...

Cockatoo vs Weller vs Menadue

I want Cockatoo. There's just something about him.

Really wish we had two picks in the top 25.

 

[RePete]

Just watched Cockatoo's highlights, I am now on the Cockatoo bandwaggon. If we want him we should get him, only Richmond are the team that I can think of that may be after him ahead of us but they will have some pretty good options regardless.

He is the kind of player that with Dangerfield in the team, I can see him streaming through the centre with little opposition attention. With Danger, Sloane, B. Crouch, Douglas, Smith being the mids that need to be watched it is important that we have damaging young guys like this that need to be given attention. He looks to have a very mature body and looks like he could be quite capable at AFL level.

My current list (of people who I think could be available) would be something like:
Goddard
Pickett
Cockatoo
Durdin

 

[Tex200]

Cockatoo likely to go to WCE at 11

 

[I Lost My Keays]

Cockatoo likely to go to WCE at 11

west coast always gets WA players with their first.............. Geelong will surely get Wright if he slips . leaving Pickett for WCE

 

[mickfaxis]

Cockatoo likely to go to WCE at 11

His name does seem to be linked with the Eagles.

 

[Tex200]

west coast all ways gets WA players with their first.............. Geelong will surely get Wright if he slips . leaving Pickett for WCE

Just from what I've read it seems Pickett is firming for GWS, but there is a lot of talk that WCE are into Nakia at 11. There's an article from the Perth rag saying its likely

 

[I Lost My Keays]

Just from what I've read it seems Pickett is firming for GWS, but there is a lot of talk that WCE are into Nakia at 11. There's an article from the Perth rag saying its likely

We'll see , there's always a few surprises come draft day

 

[matty p]

West Coast are usually pretty poor at keeping a lid on their draft targets. I'd say Cockatoo is pretty likely. Would love to see him at the Crows though.