Opinion Non-Crows AFL 4: The Centre Cannot Hold

[cm_perfect]

Bring Back the Bars is all a distraction to take away from the current era of failure under Ken.

If you are a bring back the bars guy, you are a Ken guy. If you are a sack Hinkley guy, you wouldn’t give 2 shits about the bars.

You can’t be both. Bring back the bars is a Ken enabler.

Ok, I am on board. BBtB’s

All hail Kenny. Give the man an extension!!!

 

[Drugs Are Bad Mackay?]

Bring Back the Bars is all a distraction to take away from the current era of failure under Ken.

Exactly right

Simply embarking on a futile campaign so that they can live in their safe space - that the world's working against them. That way if they lose, well, not their fault

 

[Mr_Moogle]

I disagree, not with the season we had, and not after we've attracted both Burgess and Dawson (two genuine stamps of approval to what we're doing) as a result of.

After all, we lost the spoon on three results. The wins against Geelong, Melbourne and Saints. Three games where we punched above our weight and rolled two top four teams, and a mid table team away from home and with a comeback. Three games that are integral to our development pathway as they're games that generate belief and buy in for a group, which are the two of the most important elements to kick out of the stasis we find ourselves in, and which is something we're well and truly on a timer for.

It sucks to not get Horne, but in the end of the day, it's a small sacrifice in what is a very dangerous place for a club to be in. After all, it does not take much for a club to snowball into rebuilding a rebuild. Especially one which had(/s) a reputation of being a train-wreck and already had whispers about, and got their prize from, tanking.

I don't buy into the "we liked what Nicksy was cooking up" reasoning for why Burgo and Dawson came over. Not even a little bit.

 

[Mr_Moogle]

Exactly right

Simply embarking on a futile campaign so that they can live in their safe space - that the world's working against them. That way if they lose, well, not their fault

They've been playing this card from the very beginning. It's funny too because the "us against the world" bullshit plays right into our hands. They alienate everybody in SA who isn't a rusted on Port supporter.

 

[Geoffa32]

What was that supposed deal? It was blocked because the AFL considered it one sided or not fair?

Considering they allowed a straight swap of Pick 27 for Pick 11 the next year suggests they had an issue with us

Or the AFL thought sending a guy who can't control his nose candy habit (by control I mean keep it discreet)to Gold Coast is not a good idea.

For both him and the young GC players given the party lifestyle already up there.

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[Golumless]

I wish we won the spoon, but I reckon it was North drawing with (not beating) GWS in Tasmania that killed off that chance.

Had that happened we would have been a chance for the spoon had we tanked against Hawthorn and lost to St Kilda - and could have sealed it tanking against North too

In the end it would have required too much tanking, North were simply too awful

I'm content that we didn't, but that's because I am so far liking the development the club has taken in response.

Honestly, lose to both North and Hawks at home and we're right back to where we were at the start of 2020, except with two more wasted seasons under our belt. Borderline unforgivable to be losing to those two rabbles (at the time seeing Hawks found a bit of form once they sorted out the Clarko mess).

That's the crux of it. North were just too awful for it to be a reasonable expectation.

I don't buy into the "we liked what Nicksy was cooking up" reasoning for why Burgo and Dawson came over. Not even a little bit.

Yes because we've had such great success attracting quality people in the last decade.

Environment is everything and really, if we're the same garbage we had been, Burgess finds it much easier to stay in Melbourne (or gets a job elsewhere in Adelaide, as I highly doubt anyone is saying no to the fitness coach of the now reigning premier) and Dawson either stays in Sydney or is now a Port Adelaide player if he's desperate to be back in SA. Both aren't likely to be out to tank their reputation at a poorly ran club.

They're here because we were attractive and our improving record plays a role in making us attractive. After all, it's much easier to be convinced to move to a club in a deep rebuild if they improve and knock off a couple of top 4 teams because the argument they have a bright future has some weight to it.

 

[Mr_Moogle]

I'm content that we didn't, but that's because I am so far liking the development the club has taken in response.

Honestly, lose to both North and Hawks at home and we're right back to where we were at the start of 2020, except with two more wasted seasons under our belt. Borderline unforgivable to be losing to those two rabbles (at the time seeing Hawks found a bit of form once they sorted out the Clarko mess).

That's the crux of it. North were just too awful for it to be a reasonable expectation.



Yes because we've had such great success attracting quality people in the last decade.

Environment is everything and really, if we're the same garbage we had been, Burgess finds it much easier to stay in Melbourne (or gets a job elsewhere in Adelaide, as I highly doubt anyone is saying no to the fitness coach of the now reigning premier) and Dawson either stays in Sydney or is now a Port Adelaide player if he's desperate to be back in SA. Both aren't likely to be out to tank their reputation at a poorly ran club.

They're here because we were attractive and our improving record plays a role in making us attractive. After all, it's much easier to be convinced to move to a club in a deep rebuild if they improve and knock off a couple of top 4 teams because the argument they have a bright future has some weight to it.

Burgo has stated his reasons for coming back to SA regarding his children. He was always coming back here, we just gave him a better offer than Port.

Dawson was coming home and simply got a better offer from Adelaide than Port.

The stuff about liking the club's direction is just PR spin. It's a script that every player or coach who ever went elsewhere uses every damn time. I don't pay any attention to it.

 

[GROTTO]

Paging GROTTO

You need to hit this thread with some Club Teal memories (pics/gifs)

If that Club Teal garbage is the thread picture when I come back I am going to lose my lunch.

Please [emoji120] and thank you.

Never grows old.

I posted some Fun Facts that night, let me know if youre interested, I will post them in one post.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Never grows old.

I posted some Fun Facts that night, let me know if youre interested, I will post them in one post.

Haha, I hadn't seen that preliminary one before.

Do Port fans realise the Power are the anti-magpies when it comes to finals?

 

[GROTTO]

Do Port fans realise the Power are the anti-magpies when it comes to finals?

Goodnight, I will leave you with my final post for the evening.




Kane Cornes at the end of the R23 game of the H&A season in 2021.

Just one month later............

 

[GROTTO]

‘Put a roof on the MCG’: Eddie’s big call as $1bn plan to build ‘best stand in the world’ revealed

‘Put a roof on the MCG’: Eddie’s big call as $1bn plan to build ‘best stand in the world’ revealed

www.foxsports.com.au

Former Collingwood president Eddie McGuire has proposed putting a roof on the MCG as part of a proposed billion-dollar rebuild of the Great Southern Stand.


Im not opposed to the idea, but would need to exhaustively know the pros and cons if the roof.

 

[1990crow]

‘Put a roof on the MCG’: Eddie’s big call as $1bn plan to build ‘best stand in the world’ revealed

‘Put a roof on the MCG’: Eddie’s big call as $1bn plan to build ‘best stand in the world’ revealed

www.foxsports.com.au

Former Collingwood president Eddie McGuire has proposed putting a roof on the MCG as part of a proposed billion-dollar rebuild of the Great Southern Stand.


Im not opposed to the idea, but would need to exhaustively know the pros and cons if the roof.

The MCG is massive. It doesn't need a roof.

 

[GreyCrow]

The MCG is massive. It doesn't need a roof.

I wonder if structurally it would be

1. Difficult to engineer
2. Cost prohibitive

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

I wonder if structurally it would be

1. Difficult to engineer
2. Cost prohibitive

Would guarantee that the AFL grand final needs to be played at the MCG for the next 1000 years..

 

[Scorpus]

I wonder if structurally it would be

1. Difficult to engineer
2. Cost prohibitive

Retrofitting a roof to a stadium the size of the MCG would be an insurmountable challenge I reckon

It'd need to be completely rebuilt

 

[GROTTO]

Would guarantee that the AFL grand final needs to be played at the MCG for the next 1000 years..

I will still be here posting when that contract expires.

I will upload my consciousness onto Bigfooty.

Probably the equivalent of a gif.

 

[GROTTO]

I wonder if structurally it would be

1. Difficult to engineer
2. Cost prohibitive

Just put one of these in the centre of the MCG and make it bigger.

 

[Kane McGoodwin]

Just put one of these in the centre of the MCG and make it bigger.

Haha, or string up a bloody big tarp.

They can ask Port for advice...

 

[Geoffa32]

I will still be here posting when that contract expires.

I will upload my consciousness onto Bigfooty.

Probably the equivalent of a gif.

Can I invest in this NFT?

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[FAITH]

‘Put a roof on the MCG’: Eddie’s big call as $1bn plan to build ‘best stand in the world’ revealed

‘Put a roof on the MCG’: Eddie’s big call as $1bn plan to build ‘best stand in the world’ revealed

www.foxsports.com.au

Former Collingwood president Eddie McGuire has proposed putting a roof on the MCG as part of a proposed billion-dollar rebuild of the Great Southern Stand.


Im not opposed to the idea, but would need to exhaustively know the pros and cons if the roof.

As long as the colour of the roof isn't black, right Eddie?

 

[treeman]

So apparently Patrick Dangerfield saved me 3 lives as he surfed them to safety.

Do I have to like him now?

 

[Dirty Bird]

‘Put a roof on the MCG’: Eddie’s big call as $1bn plan to build ‘best stand in the world’ revealed

‘Put a roof on the MCG’: Eddie’s big call as $1bn plan to build ‘best stand in the world’ revealed

www.foxsports.com.au

Former Collingwood president Eddie McGuire has proposed putting a roof on the MCG as part of a proposed billion-dollar rebuild of the Great Southern Stand.


Im not opposed to the idea, but would need to exhaustively know the pros and cons if the roof.

Outside of the USA I honestly feel putting a roof on ANY stadium is sheer stupidity. (and it only works there due to how many large cities there are, and governments know it'd boost the local economy, so they'd pump out cash for a new stadium every 20-40 years anyway to keep a team as another city will just come in and steal them anyway)

Sure - It protects the fans now for a couple of extra hundred million, now lets fast forward 25 years when the Olympic/Members/Ponsford stands are run down and need to be replaced.
You either have an over priced, cosmetic patchup (like what that "upgrade" at Docklands effectively is) or your price is through the roof again to take down the roof and install a new one. Only way I think you get around that obstacle is an o2 (London) like roof where it's not part of the arena, but a structure over the top.

So the cost is now through the roof, now the question becomes, cost of the artificial UV lighting to allow the grass to grow. An extra expense. And with ground rationalisation in Melbourne, would you be able to get enough onto the field to keep the grass alive with 2-3 games a weekend?

I view myself as a swinging voter (Though, it is 5:1 TPP in favour of Labor so am I really?) But if anyone put forward a proposal for a roof on a stadium, I'd vote against them in a heartbeat as it's an unnecessary extra cost, not only now, but continually in perpetuality. Ironically, the 1 time I voted Liberal was state for our roofed stadium (instead of upgraded AO). Yeah, back then I didn't actually realise the negatives of it. Now I do.

 

[Scorpus]

Also the MCG would just be... worse with a roof?

Australia has glorious summers and you just want to close that off with a huge roof? That would be absolute garbage for cricket and a lot of AFL matches

 

[TubbsFarquhar]

The only ground that needs a roof is the SCG given that every year, without fail, rain interrupts the test there.

 

[Peter Doherty]

Also the MCG would just be... worse with a roof?

Australia has glorious summers and you just want to close that off with a huge roof? That would be absolute garbage for cricket and a lot of AFL matches

Article mentions Eddie went to the recent Super Bowl that was held at a new stadium in LA.

So Eddie is thinking something like this..




Rather than something like this...