Opinion Non-Crows AFL 4: The Centre Cannot Hold

[ABAB]

This is why GWS can't hang on to it's young elite talent they don't play them, if they're Vic boys they know they'd be getting games at most Vic Clubs.

GWS recruiters have always drafted midfielders with their early picks so have a stack of early pick midfielders on their list which they regularly loss them after 2 years.

 

[latinoheat]

GWS recruiters have always drafted midfielders with their early picks so have a stack of early pick midfielders on their list which they regularly loss them after 2 years.

Imagine a forward line of Green, rachele and hill .
That’s a potent forward line right there

 

[Apsaalooke]

Fair point but I don’t think he was doing much before then either

Hinkley swung Mayes into the backline at the death. Stroke of genius really

 

[GROTTO]

They probably would have been better off drafting rachele.

The irony with that statement is that they would have had more flexibility with Toby Greene too.

Would have been perfect for them.

 

[GROTTO]

From the Port board, where the drive to get rid of Hinkley continues apace

Images from the Showdown and Blues/Hawks - last minute of each game

It is truly amazing how Ken just sits there watching, rather than getting on the phone to try to do something to win such a close game

Even Scott throws his arms in the air from time to time. But Kenny - just nothing

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To give your post even a better perspective, Port were leading and the ball is literally on the wing, members side.

To not have the presence of mind to communicate with your players via the runners, with 25s on the clock and there was a stoppage in play where the clock stopped, is unbelievable to say the least. It does speak volumes.

 

[Mutineer]

To give your post even a better perspective, Port were leading and the ball is literally on the wing, members side.View attachment 1362996

To not have the presence of mind to communicate with your players via the runners, with 25s on the clock and there was a stoppage in play where the clock stopped, is unbelievable to say the least. It does speak volumes.

What exactly could Kenny have done the Powa players had already flooded back and stacked the backline in front of the ball, how was Kenny expected to know Mayes was going to do a rank undisciplined act? It was all down to whether whoever took the kick being able to slot the goal.

 

[GROTTO]

What exactly could he have done the Powa players had already flooded back and stacked the backline in front of the ball, how was Kenny expected to know Mayes was going to do a rank undisciplined act? It was all down to whether whoever took the kick being able to slot the goal.

Yes its the second time you mentioned this.

No youre wrong and here is the vision at the 47s mark.





If the Port players were back during this time, they could have milked the clock till the siren.


Its about perception as well, seeing a coach in charge and in control of a situation.

In addition, no he didnt stack the backline in front of the ball.

Its not about slotting the goal either this is so wrong and not the attitude that successful Clubs undertake when they lead with less than a minute to go on the clock.

 

[Mutineer]

Yes its the second time you mentioned this.

No youre wrong and here is the vision at the 47s mark.


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If the Port players were back during this time, they could have milked the clock till the siren.


Its about perception as well, seeing a coach in charge and in control of a situation.

In addition, no he didnt stack the backline in front of the ball.

Its not about slotting the goal either this is so wrong and not the attitude that successful Clubs undertake when they lead with less than a minute to go on the clock.

Even the commentators called it and they were at the game I take it. I wasn't, were you?

 

[GROTTO]

Wven the commentators called it and they were at the game I take it. I wasn't, were you?

I dont care what the commentators are saying there is clear indisputable vision that backline was not flooded.

In addition your comment from your previous post is so wrong, its not whoever takes the kick to slot the goal.Good teams protect their lead, regardless of how small it is with less than a minute to go, they dont go about trying to score a goal.

Have a good look at the games that went close this round, but also over the years as well next time.

 

[Mutineer]

I dont care what the commentators are saying there is clear indisputable vision that backline was not flooded.

In addition your comment from your previous post is so wrong, its not whoever takes the kick to slot the goal.Good teams protect their lead, regardless of how small it is with less than a minute to go, they dont go about trying to score a goal.

Have a good look at the games that went close this round, but also over the years as well next time.

 

[chazwazza]

I laugh everytime I see that bend back and hear Dunstall say….”it’s coming back!!!”
Sensational

 

[kirky]

I dont care what the commentators are saying there is clear indisputable vision that backline was not flooded.

In addition your comment from your previous post is so wrong, its not whoever takes the kick to slot the goal.Good teams protect their lead, regardless of how small it is with less than a minute to go, they dont go about trying to score a goal.

Have a good look at the games that went close this round, but also over the years as well next time.

Just before Billy Frampton picks up the ball, it was Houston who did a kick in mid-air which could have gone anywhere whereas it would have been more logical to create a stoppage which would have run the clock down.

What I think you find which distinguishes an average player, good player and a very good player is what do they do in a pressure moment and explains why some players are not regulars in their side - under pressure their weaknesses are magnified. I think that question was answered a few times on Friday night.

I still don’t understand how Matthew Nicks was laughing and smiling just before Dawson was about to take the kick. Wonder what was going thru his mind.

 

[Geoffa32]

Maybe Nicks waa confident Dawson would kick it, and was happy?

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[Minor Threat]

Port making a charge towards the top 8 after jumping two places on the ladder at the end of the round

 

[MatthewB]

 

[FR0GGY]

Port making a charge towards the top 8 after jumping two places on the ladder at the end of the round

Good post to username correlation.

 

[rocket18]

What exactly could Kenny have done the Powa players had already flooded back and stacked the backline in front of the ball, how was Kenny expected to know Mayes was going to do a rank undisciplined act? It was all down to whether whoever took the kick being able to slot the goal.

He could've got the message out to bottle it up, instead you had Houston hack it forward for some inexplicable reason, he should have taken possession absorbed the tackle and another stoppage.

Ken could have been on the phone from 35s to 25s, the runner then darts out 10m as the play was directly in front of the benches and the clock is stopped until the ump bounces.

 

[Bearded Clam]

Good post to username correlation.

Good band too…

 

[Bearded Clam]

He could've got the message out to bottle it up, instead you had Houston hack it forward for some inexplicable reason, he should have taken possession absorbed the tackle and another stoppage.

Ken could have been on the phone from 35s to 25s, the runner then darts out 10m as the play was directly in front of the benches and the clock is stopped until the ump bounces.

Yeah but you’d expect that when you hack it forward in that situation that it ends in running race into your empty forward line with no one there but green grass.. and a couple more soccer kicks and a bit of a deliberate dribble of the ball towards a boundary and youre home..

But unfortunately for the powa.. there was someone down there… BIG BILLY.. all on his own and unopposed who scooped it up and sent it to Hinge who fired a bullet towards the crows forward line..

The rest is history..

Not sure that loss could be attributed to Ken.. he has onfield leaders for a reason.. and if youre still trying to get messages out to players with 25 seconds to go and sending a runner out into those frantic moments you risk the runner getting in the way and a free to the opposition..

 

[Jinglebells32]

Once again let's never compare the king twins to Tilly.
Those guys are insanely good.

Tilly will be pretty good with 40 or 50 games under his belt too.

 

[GROTTO]

He could've got the message out to bottle it up, instead you had Houston hack it forward for some inexplicable reason, he should have taken possession absorbed the tackle and another stoppage.

Ken could have been on the phone from 35s to 25s, the runner then darts out 10m as the play was directly in front of the benches and the clock is stopped until the ump bounces.

Exactly and tthats exactly the point I was making, Kenny failed in his leadership role to take control of a situation in which Port players panicked.

Dont forget there was a stoppage in play right in front of the runners with 25s to go. There was plenty of time to convey a message to his key players.

I think Mutineer will learn that Kenny failed and that you dont just sit back and chill out in the crucial last minute of a game unlike successful Clubs that ice out a game to win it.

 

[Mutineer]

Exactly and tthats exactly the point I was making, Kenny failed in his leadership role to take control of a situation in which Port players panicked.

Dont forget there was a stoppage in play right in front of the runners with 25s to go. There was plenty of time to convey a message to his key players.

I think Mutineer will learn that Kenny failed and that you dont just sit back and chill out in the crucial last minute of a game unlike successful Clubs that ice out a game to win it.

Wrong still, that's the reason you have on field leaders for, exactly for times like this. If there was communication failure it was the on field leaders not Kenny.

You think the clubs don't train for moments like this late in games all the time? Of course they do.

Maybe you might have noticed Sam Mayes the offender played forward for most of the game?

 

[GreyCrow]

Exactly and tthats exactly the point I was making, Kenny failed in his leadership role to take control of a situation in which Port players panicked.

Dont forget there was a stoppage in play right in front of the runners with 25s to go. There was plenty of time to convey a message to his key players.

I think Mutineer will learn that Kenny failed and that you dont just sit back and chill out in the crucial last minute of a game unlike successful Clubs that ice out a game to win it.

You plan, train and back your onfield leaders in those moments.

Is it a good look that Hinkley is sitting there doing nothing. Yep but he can't do much at all.

 

[GROTTO]

Wrong still, that's the reason you have on field leaders for, exactly for times like this. If there was communication failure it was the on field leaders not Kenny.

You think the clubs don't train for moments like this late in games all the time? Of course they do.

Maybe you might have noticed Sam Mayes the offender played forward for most of the game?

Youre still wrong. Of course they do, I never denied anything of the above.

The issue that you cant wrap your head around is that Kenny sat there laid back and proactively not communicate to his players or runners.

Its also not about Mayes either, of course forwards go back to defend in this situation, Tex does this a lot in close games. Anyone knows this.

But everyone knows successful coaches communicate with their players in that crucial last minute of play. Its a leadership role.

 

[Mutineer]

Youre still wrong. Of course they do, I never denied anything of the above.

The issue that you cant wrap your head around is that Kenny sat there laid back and proactively not communicate to his players or runners.

Its also not about Mayes either, of course forwards go back to defend in this situation, Tex does this a lot in close games. Anyone knows this.

But everyone knows successful coaches communicate with their players in that crucial last minute of play. Its a leadership role.

Look I'm never going to agree with you so there's no point for further discussion with you.

I know it's popular to heap shit on Kenny and the Powa around these parts but you're attacking the wrong culprit, this is all down to the on field Powa leaders not Kenny.